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kagunkie
Aug 30, 2001, 6:37 PM
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Never sharpen your tools, theyll last longer.
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climb512
Aug 31, 2001, 5:52 PM
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sharpen them....its kind of like taking a dull knife and not sharpening it so it will last longer, useless, but it lasts longer. hey, camakazi or fawn, work on your spelling!
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kagunkie
Aug 31, 2001, 9:56 PM
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Ok.....sharpen your tools....but use a nail file.
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atg200
Sep 4, 2001, 2:20 PM
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Use a nail file? Have you ever even used an ice tool?
I use a combination of a mill bastard file and jeweler's files. Use the mill bastard for your picks and some crampon points, and use the jeweler's file for ice screws and the front point teeth on rigid crampons. I sharpen my tools after every time I climb.
I replace my picks at least once a season, more if I do a lot of mixed climbing. Picks aren't that expensive-maybe $20 each. Most crampons have front point replacement kits(only rigid crampons do-not flexible), so that is also not a concern.
Ice climbing is plenty dangerous-two acquaintances of mine died last winter, and I know of at least two others). Bad advice like some of the above posts will make it worse. Be careful, and read some of Luebben's or Lowe's instructional books if you need advice.
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andy_lemon
Sep 27, 2001, 11:59 AM
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Man I hope I get to go to Baniff soon... if nothing else but to bag a peak.
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graniteboy
Dec 5, 2001, 6:01 PM
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Hey, you're generally right. Ice climbing is a blast, and it's very very pretty. I've been playing the ice game a long time, and I'm still kicking (although gently on thin icepillars..). Judgement is really the main issue. I seem to see that many people taking up ice these days have not paid their dues, hopped outta some gym with a new pr of tools, and are thinking it's OK to take leader falls while on ice. For that reason, I tend to play up the inherent dangers in ice climbing until I sound like one of those damned "climbing is all dangerous and stuff so don't sue us if you screw up and die" stickers you see on harnesses. They never listen anyway, and I see em dropping tools and dinnerplates on their partners and taking whippers anyway, so I just make sure I remember my EMT skills, and hope they learn fast B4 bad things happen... Nonetheless, iceclimbing is truly a means of talking to the mtn gods.
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climber_girl
Dec 30, 2001, 11:23 AM
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ice lcibing seems really cool and i wanna try it hopefully this yea but might have to wait till next year, but just thought i bring this upon everybody, but it has a 15% death rate, to me i don;t care muchbecuase it looks really fun but just thought i'd let y'all now!
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climber_girl
Jan 5, 2002, 10:21 AM
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yep, positive, so liek 15 out of every 100 ppl die!
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graniteboy
Jan 6, 2002, 4:02 PM
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Hey: I've been thinking abt this post, and my new thought is that anyone who thinks iceclimbing really is fun has never led WI 5 or 6. Or hard mixed climbing.
I have fun on WI3 or 4, and some 5s. But hard ice is, well, scary as hell. It's not really possible to have much "fun" when you're on thin, patchy, near vertical verglas, with a spectre as your only pro, about 40 feet below U, and a storm approaching.
PS: climbergirl, so far, MY PERSONAL mortality rate has been 0%. Which is what really counts, huh?
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codey
Feb 18, 2002, 4:52 PM
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All climbiong is fun!
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maddie
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There are risks in all types climbing, you are never 100% safe
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