The spring stops on the smallest ones break making them a paperweight unlike aliens or bd c3s which become paperweights for other reasons.

If you wear the fabric on the gear loops at all there is a chance that the loop will fail. They are only connected by the fabric, the plastic tubing within is not attached to the harness. This resulted in my girlfriend's loop breaking while on an offwidth pitch 400 ft up. We watched an entire single rack (6 cams) fly off into the forest below. The rest of the harness is in perfect condition so there is no excuse for this occurring, just poorly designed gear loops. If they were all plastic of the plastic loops within were attached this would not happen. Don't buy until the loops are improved if you do trad and value your cams/ send. I guess these will work fine in the gym.

Maybe I fit these shoes a little looser than Freeskicolorado but I can easily see these becoming my go to hard crack and steep climb shoes. I literally bumped up 1-2 letter grades the first day i used these. Probably not entirely due to the shoe but they really helped me because they do everything well. They felt powerful on little crimps and slabby parts and notched great and securely into pockets and cracks. The first thing I did when I put these on is send a long standing project of mine. That is the first time a shoe out of the box performed so well. Now I just hope the not stretching part is true. Awesome!

Fall on these all the time... love them! The long stems really help with placement and they don't move once in there. These guys take the extra abuse I give them like champs... Saves my more expensive cams in dicey and horizontals. Pretty light too. Fill in between my BD's very nice.