This shoe is the best climbing shoe i've ever had. period. i use it outdoors for steep face climbing and bouldering. the heel fits 1000x better than the pinkies, and the power is so focused on your big toes..i felt like i could edge on anything in these shoes. the only complaint is that i occasionally wish that they had more rubber on them for better hooking (toe and heel)..you can't have everything though...these shoes are great for really steep routes that require dime-edging. make sure to size small and tight! i wear 11 1/2 street shoe and wear a 9 1/2 in the verdes. they're super tight for performance and they don't even hurt. so comfortable. i would highly recommend these shoes.

i bought these strictly to be my gym shoes for bouldering. they fit and climb very similar to my most recent pair of shoes, mad rock's mugen (although the heel fits tighter and better in the pontas). they are not as aggressive as i would like though, so if you're looking for something for reallllly steep stuff, i would go with something different....overall a good shoe for the price, but don't expect miracles in them... sizing wise, i wear 11 1/2 street shoe and bought a size 10 pontas. At a size 10 my toes were curled, i had a tight fit, and i could wear them w/o constantly taking them off. If i really wanted performance i would have gone to 9 1/2 but like i said, they're my gym shoe...