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Actually, I didn't realize that the photo was tagged. I posted the photo and it should have been sport/trad. In my ascent notes for the route, I did tag the route as being both sport and trad for the simple fact that the route can be climbed with nothing more than the fixed protection. The most difficult section of the climb ends at the second bolt, with no chance of additional pro to begin with. The climbing past the second and third bolts only has one difficult spot - the climb over the steep bulge near the top. This is the only place that would even need additional pro but it can be climbed without it. Granted, it is a bit dangerous but then again, that's what the R rating is for. However, just because I am stupid enough to try it doesn't mean anyone else should.