Ascent Notes for: War and Peace - 5.12a Average Rating : 3.00/5

if we are talking about the route just right of thunderbolt, i bolted this route and then led it... the same day so i dont know who could have led it before that . it may have been climbed on a toprope prior because of an existing anchor by two territorial climbers named rob and nick. but after a call from one of those guys i felt kind of intimidated so i rap bolted it and led it the same day. it took two tries.i was young and stupid then and i should have respected their potential route and let them finish it..but honestly the phone call pissed me off..i called it "and lightning", not war and peace.....its 12a .

this climb is a little harder than 12a more like 12c/d of corse I guess it seems harder when you are clipping a fixed line!