Some of the other 12's in Squamish can be pretty jazzy. I'm thinking of climbs like Last Train to Hicksville, and a few others in the Smokes which are pretty repellant. And then you have Black Water. It is the best 12a pitch in Squamish. Contrary to the other reviews, the holds are not micro, but adequate, and quite positive. It’s their frequency which makes Black Water so enjoyable and pumpy. The climb is sustained right up to a ramp close to the crux. The climb was originally given an 11d rating, and I’d say that 11d better reflects the difficlty.