I think I started to far up the Moby Dick gully, as I was only 30 feet or so from the start of Moby Dick. Agreed, it is very runout. I encountered runouts of 70' or more on multiple pitches, mostly in the harder areas of slabby 5.7 climbing(as the chickenheads disappear, difficult increases and pro decreases). Rumor has it that bolts are going to be added to this climb sometime between Nov.'03 and Feb.'04. Sould make it even more fun.