almost got the flash ascent, and weather wasn't good enough to give it a second go, so i'll have to save this for another day. FUN climb, big holds, awesome movement. it's technically rated a 11d/12a. Personally i would say it's 11d. strangely enough, the cruz for me was the only place where it wasn't overhanging. I would recommend this for people climbing in this range, or even for people not to this point yet, because it's a good easy climb to start getting into the twelves.