very fun climbing. i followed, and will continue to follow this route until i can afford the crazy ass rack you need to lead it. it took a #5 AND #6 c4, at least two microcams and a lot of intermediate sizes. don't go down the way you came up unless you have two ropes. and don't drop or lose things like i did, so your friends have to go down the way they came up, cause one crazy dude is gonna think he can rap all the way from the 3rd belay to the ground and get stuck in midair. that's what happened to me.