Gully can be a bit cold. Both Stick routes are very nice and longer than they look. Full 100' route. A bit sandbagged, felt more like 5.10++. The crack gets to #3 bd with a short bit of #4 at the end. Stacking is the way to go, overhung and thus hard to make the transition at the #4 section for me. After that, a pleasant cruiser. If I went back, would want at least 3 #3's and 2 #4's for the roof and 2#5's for the upper section. With Paul from OR.