http://www.rockclimbing.com/routes/rss/ North America/United States/Texas/South Central Texas/North Shore/Little Guide's Wall en-us (C) 2005 5 Rating: 5 - Header is AP's quote. For grade opinions you MUST try the beta under the route description. That's the move AP is talking about. Birddog originally thought 10c from toprope runs before bolting. Later I forgot that key beta and thought 11b when Karl and I led it. AP and I did it with the beta recently. She thinks 11a. I took liberty of revising the grade to 11a but think it might be 10d, felt easier than Menopause Mania and comparable to T-Roofic Indirect. The low and high moves are awefully technical, but I'm grading on power. http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/routes/review.cgi?ID=112543 Wed, 15 May 2013 00:00:00 -0700 Rating: 4 - A lot of fun. Good route Karl. <BR>This route is deceptively pump but has great holds. Or maybe it's just that I had no info on what I was getting on. <BR>At the top choss band, it seems to be crumbling, pretty dirty. Tried to clear a little bit out while I was climbing, but it was a never ending build up of dust. http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/routes/review.cgi?ID=112544 Sat, 18 May 2013 00:00:00 -0700