http://www.rockclimbing.com/routes/North America/United States/Oregon/Willamette Valley/ North America/United States/Oregon/Willamette Valley en-us (c) 2007 D4DR Media | Rockclimbing.com - All rights reserved. 5 Rating: 4 - crack with faces either side felt about 5.9, pure crack mid 10, layback with feet totally on column (avoid using fat crack at all) a good pumper 10B http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/routes/review.cgi?ID=33458 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:00:00 -0800 Rating: 3 - always thought this was considered 11c. Still feels like it even when clean and dry. Maybe small fingers would be easier. Avoiding the ledges at 2/3 height definitely makes it more potent. Ah, too much pain... http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/routes/review.cgi?ID=33459 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:00:00 -0800