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Re: [majid_sabet] Simul Rapping:
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jimdavis
Dec 18, 2006, 7:01 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: I never heard of simul rap Use ATC or 8 or rack.
majid_sabet wrote: ryanb wrote: It essentially doubles the failure modes of normall rappeling and makes the two climbers entirely reliant on each other. With the right partner and in the right situation that can be acceptable but I prefer to avoid it in most situatons. I would advise thinking about it and makeing your own decision. however I do not want to share the detail cause you still got two people on a same system.
SO you go from never hearing of it, to an expert in a page??? hahaha!
Oh Majid, good to see you haven't changed.
I'd say go for it, but make sure both you and your partner backup your raps, or use grigri's.
Like one of the first replys said, there will be less friction, and the ride will be quicker....so use 2 biners in those ATC's, or go with the grigri's. I simul-rap on slabs most often; with a b52 on 10mm-ish ropes I don't need the 2 biners, but I do use a backup.
I'd give it a practice on some slabs if you get a chance, all backed up and such. The real trick to it weight and unweight the ropes at the same time to get the counterbalance to work...if your using 2 ropes and have the junction knot, then you can load the "non-pull" rope first, have the junction knot jam on the rings, then have the other climber weight their side. You'll have to unweight the ropes at the same time when you get to the next station.
Some people like to teather themselves to their partner with a cordelette or a few long slings. Whether you do or not shouldn't matter much, I've done it both ways and haven't had a problem with it either way.
There are also some tricks to share the same belay device on doubled ropes, but I don't think it'd be of any advantage to you here...worth learning though if you get an injured partner or something.
Just be careful, and it'll help get you down a lot quicker.
Cheers,
Jim
(This post was edited by jimdavis on Dec 18, 2006, 7:06 AM)
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