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Re: [angry] Greatest Internet Climbing Myth/Falsehood?:
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wallwombat
Apr 27, 2010, 3:16 AM
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angry wrote: Does climbing 5.13 mean that you might have more mileage on the rock than the 5.10 or 5.11 climber?
With climbing gyms being on every second street corner, nowadays, no, it doesn't necessarily mean you have more mileage.
These days we have 8 year old kids cranking way harder than lots of "seasoned climbers" every did or will. Does that 8 year old cranker have more right to pass comment because they have climbed harder?
angry wrote: Not to refute your point but so often the sound, reasonable, and seasoned comments are ignored by some loudmouth who's been climbing for 2 years. How am I (or others) supposed to react? There were a lot of things I thought I was right about 2 years in that I was completely wrong about.
That's what I am saying. It is very common now for someone who has only been climbing for a couple of years to climb hard sport routes or blocs. Indoor gyms give lots of opportunities for young climbers to get into the game and climb and train a lot. Improvement often follows rapidly but wisdom does not.
angry wrote: The grade shouldn't be the issue, experience should be. Then again, experience gets conflated with years climbing and the word experience loses meaning.
Neither should really be the issue. If you feel you have something to say regarding some subject, you should be able to say it without fear of being told "come back when you can crank 5.13" or "come back when you've climbed as much as I have".
If said person makes a stupid comment, it becomes immediately apparent and they look like a dick head.
It's kind of like natural selection.
I feel fine with people pointing out that someone has said something stupid and look like a dick head. What I don't feel fine about is someone chiming in and saying "you don't have the right to say that because......"
As far as I'm concerned that's just adding another dick head to the equation. An elitist, head-up-his-ass dick head.
And , Angry, I was particularly impressed with your little dig about experience being confused with years climbing. Well done mate!
(This post was edited by wallwombat on Apr 27, 2010, 3:18 AM)
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Post edited by wallwombat
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