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kansasclimber
Feb 23, 2005, 12:14 AM
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Who wants to climb harder and what steps are you taking in order to get to that point where you want to be. Please tell where you currently are (grade), and where you want to get to. And honestly, what grade would you really like to get to at the top of your prime. (realistically)
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dbrayack
Feb 23, 2005, 12:18 AM
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I'm currently climbing 12b,c at NRG in WV, I'd like to climb 12d or 13a by the end of the season. What I am doing now is climbing a lot and cutting back on my diet, hoping to get as light as possible. I'm running a lot and keeping track of all the food that I eat, so I don't over eat "its my problem". Also, I am bouldering a lot.
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bandidopeco
Feb 23, 2005, 12:19 AM
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current level - 5.10 Trad, 5.11 Sport with a few 5.12 red points. I'd like to be able to climb 5.12 trad and maybe, hopefully project at least 1 13.
But as is probably true with most, i think my goals will move outwards as my ability grows
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neutralcypruss
Feb 23, 2005, 12:24 AM
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:twisted: Well currently i am falling 5.11c,d have sent 1 ........5.12
climb solid 5.10 d sport outside. lead trad 5.8 i boulder at solid v4
i would love to be a solid leader at the 5.12 level trad and sportand want to boulder up to v7 v8 ohh to dream.... climb on
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onsight_endorphines
Feb 23, 2005, 1:20 AM
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A friend of mine got me into climbing almost 8 months ago. Right now I consistently lead 5.9 at Reimers, however, I am confident that I could onsight 5.11 or harder if......IF, I could just get over the psychological aspects of falling on lead.
I'm very scared of taking lead falls. It took a lot of effort for me to even get used to TR.....I hate the feeling of a scary fall, it's holding me back bigtime. My intuition tells me, however, that I will be getting over this in the near future. I stopped TR'ing a month ago to accelerate the process ; )
I'd love to sport climb 5.12a by the time this year is over. If I still have the burning desire to climb in 15 years like I do know, I'd say that sport 5.14a and multi-pitch trad isn't out of the question for me someday ; )
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kpj240789
Feb 23, 2005, 1:27 AM
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Right now 10a is the hardest I've climbed but I am only 13, I hope to be able to climb around 13a someday.
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kansasclimber
Feb 23, 2005, 1:29 AM
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I guess its my turn:
I can boulder consistantly at V6, and have done V9, yet it took a while..
I have OS 12, and havent tried anything harder since i live in Kansas its hard to get to the rock to try different routes. But at the same time, its pure motivation to train, so the next time out I can see that i have improved from trip to trip. As of right now, I am training for core strength. I do weighted abs (machine), regular crunches, pull-ups on finger tips and full pull-ups w/ weight. Then I also do bench press, less weight, many reps. I also have been training meantally, on how to get there and what needs to be done in order to climb. my goals: This year- V11, 13a within 5 tries, and consistant onsight of 5.11+,.12a, and V6. I eventually want to boulder V12-13, and do 1 , just one 5.14a. Then, i can die...
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Feb 23, 2005, 1:51 AM
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i have
redpointed 11c sport in austin
onsighted .9 sport in el potrero
i solod a .7 in potrero (on accident)
v2 outdoorr
v4 in the gym
that was last year
this year
i redpointed 2 8's and a 9 in potrero
v2 in the gym
projecting v3's in the gym
i had some down time and i'm on the comeback YO YO!!
ideally i would love to pull a 14 in my lifetime. i would love to boulder v10
hell i want to climb everything.
i love big wall. i want to do some of the lines in potrero that are 25 pitches long of solid 12-13's
i want to expand my climbing to the ends of the earth. i will pull myself as far as i can. i am determined.
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To get stronger i am doing 4x4's working ont he system wall till failure. Doing (i call them regressions -- pullup fully- lock off and hold until complete failure) Traversing; holding each hold for 5 seconds before i make the next move. Not all of this at once, but i definitely have training days where i'm climbing not for fun or to send, just to pump out and work through my pump.
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Feb 23, 2005, 1:52 AM
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I lead trad 5.9 pretty consistently don't sport climb enough to really know on that. My end goal is to climb Free Rider, or something similar. Long, middling hard, trad, free. What's really holding me back at the moment is endurance. I can do the moves on most any 5.10 -5.11 climb you throw at me, but I don't have the endurance to hang off of bad holds to place pro. My solution? Lots of traversing in the gym, lots of long routes at lower grades. I do modified 4x4s mostly (climbing or r&i had something about these recently) and saw huge improvements just in the first 2 weeks. Now its the long hard road to good.
As far a sport climbing, it doesn't matter to me. Whatever's fun, numbers are illusory in my world.
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In reply to: I guess its my turn: I can boulder consistantly at V6, and have done V9......
at hueco?
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Feb 23, 2005, 2:27 AM
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As of right now i'm still rather new to climbing, I can climb 5.10 or so for sport, and lead trad 5.8 cuz i'm not comfortable enough yet. As for improvement i've got a hangboard and go climbing as much as I can, gotta love it when improving consists of doing more of what u love.
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vincent
Feb 23, 2005, 2:57 AM
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i consistently onsight 5.4 ...
i can do the dicey top bunk mantle into my bed at night ...
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skecthballer
Feb 23, 2005, 3:07 AM
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i have climbed a few 5.13 sport climbs, 5.11 trad, multiple v9's. i want to
climb more 5.13s 5.12 trad and send v double digit. im doing this by working out and climbing hard.
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Feb 23, 2005, 3:10 AM
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In reply to: what a f---' jerk fest this is.
Brian
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bubbahotep
Feb 23, 2005, 3:17 AM
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Well, I'm sitting here drinking beer, eating Cheetos and watching "Debbie does Dallas" for the third time tonight. Later, I'll finish off the workout by burnin' one and downing a pint of Ben and Jerry's, followed by some chocolate chip cookies.
What are you laughing at?
I'm a trad climber dammit!
:lol:
Now, get outta my face you anorexic little twerp.
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camhead
Feb 23, 2005, 3:39 AM
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I have fallen on sport as low as 5.8.
right now my goal is that black tape route.
oh, and in case no one else has said it...
THIS THREAD IS A GODDAMMNED CIRCLE JERK
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onsight_endorphines
Feb 23, 2005, 3:50 AM
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In reply to: ...I've got goals, but they're for me, and putting out my accomplishments for all of you is beneath anybody.
I've got goals. They're for me and anybody that asks. I'm not ashamed of them.
In reply to: ...none of you are going to get there just spraying like this...
Perhaps...
EDIT: Added the following...
Camhead: So how do you really feel about it :shock: J/K. Maybe it is man. Either way, I'm not sure if I care.
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kriso9tails
Feb 23, 2005, 3:56 AM
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Not sure how hard I climb since I'm in the process of getting back in shape. I guess it varies from day to day and with the clour of my mood ring.
I want to be the strongest climber in the world and I have a pretty solid plan on reaching this goal, but it involves a crowbar, a lot of travelling, a little stealth and a lot of strong climbers' kneecaps. Just kidding. I don't have the money for a crowbar (yet).
I also want to climb harder than I am now and hopefully harder than I ever was. My training plan consists pretty much of just climbing.
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Feb 23, 2005, 4:00 AM
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OKAY, there are jerks on this site, and i know that, but gezz, dont you have something else to do rather than post on a thread that you say is idiotic, thats kind of contradicting yourself isnt it?? And for anyone that has over 6000 post, you need to get out more and stop typing so much.. Dont like the thread, dont post, thats simple enough isnt it. I guess this probably makes you feel better about yourself though, knowing others will see your reply and feel guilty posting now. What i think is even more funny is that you will check back, see i have written this, and then say some lame "shut up quote" to me where if you thought this post was stupid, you wouldnt be doing so now would you.. Think about that.
Stephen
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esallen
Feb 23, 2005, 4:04 AM
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oh mercy . . . I want to go to Zion . . .
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kriso9tails
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In reply to: I have fallen on sport as low as 5.8. right now my goal is that black tape route. oh, and in case no one else has said it... THIS THREAD IS A GODDAMMNED CIRCLE JERK
I would like to point out two things.
i) I have fallen on a 5.7 tr making me both more zen and a better person than you could ever hope to be.
ii) I sent the black tape route so I am more hardcore and a stronger climber than you could ever hope to be.
iii) The circle jerks is an okay band
iv) I don't really understand Roman numerals so I'm not sure if I've passed my two point mark yet or not.
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gunksgoer
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i think some of the things people have posted here are just a bit off. your goal should be to send a route, not a number. there are many routes i cant do, but the problems and routes i want to do have little to do with the number attatched to them, and are based soley on the quality of climbing they provide.
one climb i am particularly fascinated with is china beach up at waimea. i couldnt ever do it, but would i want to? yes! i dont have the desire to climb it since its 14b tho, id want to do it because it is a spectacular line up one of the most impressive walls in north america. it just seems like quite a few of the people here dont care about the actual climbing, but more about high numbers.
so, to reply to the original question. my goal for the next year or so is to do a problem called over the falls at haycock. fun moves. more longterm goals (wayy longterm) would be two spectacular routes at waimea, silver surfer and tsunami. if u really want to know the grades, whatever look them up, but they are ony my list simply because they look beautiful. actually getting on them and maybe doing them are a different story tho, o well, ill see how it turns out, im ambitious...
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Feb 23, 2005, 5:59 AM
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I agree with gunks goer. Who really cares what grade number you can climb at? What matters is being skilled enough to hop on that sweet looking climb that you've had your eye in for a while.
For example, I've got my eye on an awesome overhanging climb named son of easy o in the gunks (5.8). Currently I have only led up to 5.7. My goal by the end of the summer is to be confident enough, good enough, or just don't give a damn anymore so I'm jumping on that climb.
And to make the new/average climber feel better about themself:
I after 2 years am only a solid 5.6 leader. Yes you heard me right, not every climber on this site is 5.10 and above. Maybe I suck, maybe I'm taking it slow. Or just maybe the ratings in the gunks area is stiffer than other places.
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In reply to: Well, I'm sitting here drinking beer, eating Cheetos and watching "Debbie does Dallas" for the third time tonight. Later, I'll finish off the workout by burnin' one and downing a pint of Ben and Jerry's, followed by some chocolate chip cookies. What are you laughing at? I'm a trad climber dammit!
May the gods of climbing bless you and every route you climb! but with training like that do you really need to climb?
The first post, said something about "in your prime" well my prime is a few years in the past. I'd just like to be able to climb 12 days per month, and every now and then travel to some of my old favorites, Maple, Rifle, the Verdon. . . .sigh
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In reply to: OKAY, there are jerks on this site, and i know that, but gezz, dont you have something else to do rather than post on a thread that you say is idiotic, thats kind of contradicting yourself isnt it?? And for anyone that has over 6000 post, you need to get out more and stop typing so much.. Dont like the thread, dont post, thats simple enough isnt it. I guess this probably makes you feel better about yourself though, knowing others will see your reply and feel guilty posting now. What i think is even more funny is that you will check back, see i have written this, and then say some lame "shut up quote" to me where if you thought this post was stupid, you wouldnt be doing so now would you.. Think about that. Stephen
answer my question, weakmo.
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I'd better put on a raincoat with all this SPRAY.
Anyway, my goal is to climb more efficiently than I currently do, while at the same time having a higher strength to weight ratio and higher energy levels. (As if anyone cares, i'm making some attempt to improve my diet, started running, doing my usual strength/yoga training, and of course, climbing as much as the rain will permit). Therefore the climbing will actually seem EASY...ER, not HARD...ER. My goal is to make climbing easier so that I may enjoy those relatively difficult lines I've been eyeing for some time now.
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Instead of just babbling about grades, I'll say this. I hope to lead 2 grades stiffer than I currently have. 50% mental - with this alone I can jump to the next grade. Then either 50% in better lock off strength, or just more efficient/faster gear placements, I think I can go up another grade. I don't really have any goals for sport, or bouldering or anything else - when I do that stuff Im just chillin and having fun.
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drop 4 lbs and finish tobacco road [LEAD, silly, you can't TR it.] and upon finishing it, jump in summersville lake.
mebbe nekkid. :shock:
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In reply to: Who wants to climb harder....
Actually I'd like to climb easier, if you don't mind. I want to just flow from hold to hold with no discernable effort whatsoever. On good days, that's the way it goes. Physical training can only get you so far, the rest is in the mind, eh?
Oh, and 5.11-ish, and counting. No specific goal, just always pushing the limits. Willing to wait and see.
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In reply to: OKAY, there are jerks on this site, and i know that, but gezz, dont you have something else to do rather than post on a thread that you say is idiotic, thats kind of contradicting yourself isnt it?? And for anyone that has over 6000 post, you need to get out more and stop typing so much.. Dont like the thread, dont post, thats simple enough isnt it. I guess this probably makes you feel better about yourself though, knowing others will see your reply and feel guilty posting now. What i think is even more funny is that you will check back, see i have written this, and then say some lame "shut up quote" to me where if you thought this post was stupid, you wouldnt be doing so now would you.. Think about that. Stephen
hey kansasplasticboy, assuming that I could actually comprehend your terrible grammar and style enough to make a reasonable comeback, here goes–
"don't like the thread, don't post"? No. If a thread or response is unusually st00pid, I will say so.
And this thread is certainly terrible. Number spraying sucks, and you used this thread as an overt vehicle to spray, as well as compare your self-supposed climbing prowess with that of others. Lame. If someone really wants to know how hard you climb, he/she can simply check your ascents list in your profile. Same for me, same for anybody.
Instead of all that "improvement" bullshit, you could have just posted, "WOOHOO LOOK AT ME I CLIMB SOOOOOOOO HARD EVERYBODY!!!!11 LOOK AT MY NUMBERS AND POTENTIAL VEE DOUBLE DIGITS WANKWANKWANK WOOOOOOO!!!!!" same thing.
As for the attempted 6000 post count insult, you've got me there, you fish-in-a-barrel shooter, you. Living in Dallas contributes to high post counts, unfortunately. However, I do not need to "get out more" or whatever. I get exactly as much out of climbing as I put into.
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This is my first post on this exciting site. Im psyched!!! Yaw-wooooowwwee!! It looks like im in the right place here. Rather than evaluating our skills on the rock lets compare are masturbating skills. I once jerked off six times in one day. And you?
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In reply to: i can do the dicey top bunk mantle into my bed at night ... .
best response yet...
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In reply to: In reply to: OKAY, there are jerks on this site, and i know that, but gezz, dont you have something else to do rather than post on a thread that you say is idiotic, thats kind of contradicting yourself isnt it?? And for anyone that has over 6000 post, you need to get out more and stop typing so much.. Dont like the thread, dont post, thats simple enough isnt it. I guess this probably makes you feel better about yourself though, knowing others will see your reply and feel guilty posting now. What i think is even more funny is that you will check back, see i have written this, and then say some lame "shut up quote" to me where if you thought this post was stupid, you wouldnt be doing so now would you.. Think about that. Stephen hey kansasplasticboy, assuming that I could actually comprehend your terrible grammar and style enough to make a reasonable comeback, here goes– "don't like the thread, don't post"? No. If a thread or response is unusually st00pid, I will say so. And this thread is certainly terrible. Number spraying sucks, and you used this thread as an overt vehicle to spray, as well as compare your self-supposed climbing prowess with that of others. Lame. If someone really wants to know how hard you climb, he/she can simply check your ascents list in your profile. Same for me, same for anybody. Instead of all that "improvement" s---, you could have just posted, "WOOHOO LOOK AT ME I CLIMB SOOOOOOOO HARD EVERYBODY!!!!11 LOOK AT MY NUMBERS AND POTENTIAL VEE DOUBLE DIGITS WANKWANKWANK WOOOOOOO!!!!!" same thing...
i believe kansasclimber already started a thread about how great he is. its along the lines of "im the shiznit and i send Vmadhard and ill warm up on your proj.". Ive also noticed a few of his other posts containing ample use of numbers. Ive already used up my ratings today trophying the "eww gross" thread, but if i could still rate kansasclimber would be sitting in a pile of poo. get a life, forget about the numbers, and go climb for fun.
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hmmmm... what to say.. I guess all I can say is that numbers motivate me. I’m sorry, but im competitive. I want to be better than you (in context). And deep sown, I truly believe many feel this way. Now I do have fun when climbing. I don’t know why anyone would ever do anything if it did not bring them happiness. Climbing has done more for me than any other activity I have ever done. I love the sport, that’s why I do it. And if you look at all the other sport, which I know that climbing is not "every other sport"; there is a goal in mind, whether it be beat the other team, setting a record, or placing first. It is human nature to act the way that I am. I guess I feel this way, and so do others, but no one wants to say so. I DO NOT CLIMB FOR GRADES, I CLIMB FOR THE CHALLENGE. And that’s for every one of my posts I have ever posted. I’m a nice guy that will climb with anyone. Without saying one thing about how good or bad you climb. Or what grades you can do. I could care less. One of my new year’s resolutions was this, and quote right out of my log: " To help others reach their goals in climbing, and to show them their true potential for climbing. I have always been like this. And if you would care to ask the people that climb with me, please do. I love climbing and I love grades. For me they intertwine.
Grades are simply a way to get me motivated to get to the gym that is all. On rock, I will climb any line that looks appealing, regardless of grade.
And those "bouldering grades were from RMNP, I think those specific problems were put up by Tommy", If you must know..
Stephen
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In reply to: If someone really wants to know how hard you climb, he/she can simply check your ascents list in your profile.
Yea! Check my ascents list on a webpage, biatch! That'll show 'em.
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In reply to: It is human nature to act the way that I am. I guess I feel this way, and so do others, but no one wants to say so. I DO NOT CLIMB FOR GRADES, I CLIMB FOR THE CHALLENGE. And that’s for every one of my posts I have ever posted. I’m a nice guy that will climb with anyone. Without saying one thing about how good or bad you climb. Or what grades you can do. I could care less. Grades are simply a way to get me motivated to get to the gym that is all. On rock, I will climb any line that looks appealing, regardless of grade.
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hmmmmm, i dont believe challenge involves truckloads of spray and a number attatched to everything. also, if you do climb just for challenge, you obviously wouldnt care about the quality of the line. you have contradicted yourself.
If you did actually care about quality of the routes you do, you wouldnt feel the need to put a number on all of them. It just seems to me that your a little to caught up with grades, i noticed that almost every picture in your profile had the grade next to the title. This seems truly noobish, and screams "hey, this is me doing a sick mad nasty move on this V9 that i got in 4 tries, wich is better then you could do so im better than biatch." it appears you are using pictures as bragging rights instead of art.
[almost] Every aspiring climber goes thru the stage in wich grades lose much of their importance, and are then only used to warn of the difficulty, commitment, etc. i, along with much of the climbing community would agree grades arnt everything, but whatever, do what you want. climbing is a big sport wich lets u make many choices, so choose what is important to you. although i have nothing against u personally, im just glad u live in kansas and u wont be spraying anywhere near me. happy climbing.
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I climb with Kansasclimber (Steven) at least twice a week at the local gym – which is pretty much the only place to climb around here. The kid is good, and will probably get a lot better. He trains hard and lives and breathes climbing. Unfortunately for you folks here at RC.com the gym is operated by a couple of 30 something Trad climbers. The gym regulars are, to a large degree, either relative beginners or old school Trad climbers. Neither of these two groups take notice of what Sharma is doing, the latest bouldering DVD or who just completed a 14d sport route in France. Not one of us owns a beanie.
How does this effect all of you? Steven has no place to discuss his goals of bouldering V12 (none of us here know what that is). He has no place to talk of aspirations of climbing 14a (how does a regular Joe equalize two stoppers amidst the 14a crux on pitch 5 anyway). Steven can normally hold our attention on these topics for about a minute. Then we lose interest. If he continues, we send him to an unoccupied wall in the gym. Should even consider “spraying”, he has to go home. So he comes here. While he is generally a humble guy, he certainly enjoys getting you guys wound up.
So just remember next time you see his post regarding his glorious on-sight of a bolted 12, and you’re tempted to flame him, just remember he’s probably already gotten an ear full from us.
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kansasclimber
Feb 26, 2005, 1:44 PM
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Thanks PAUL....
I don’t know whether that hurt or helped me here, but thanks..
Stephen
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lemurboy
Feb 26, 2005, 2:55 PM
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I am currently climbing 11s and I would like to be climbing solid 12s and maybe 13s as this next season progresses. Im currently training in the gym working on sustained 5.12 climbs.
I guess for over coming various barriers for me has been to pay attension more. Concentrate on what I am doing rather than all the cluttered thoughts. I find if I centre myself on climbing well I will.
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numbnut
Mar 1, 2005, 5:29 AM
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It's hard not to see competition as a futile and unfulfilling motivation. A prison of sorts. Even if your the best in the world you won't be for long. And if your the best at your local gym, well I guess your world is pretty small. There are cooler reasons for doing things than winning or being the "best".
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