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okay, so I think it's pretty much agreed upon that most, not all, girls don't like watching UFC along with other sports: football and so on. But what I can't understand is why not UFC?

All humans have a taste for lurid, grisly scenes and we're all familier with that trite example of both men and women driving down a highway and turning their heads in order to watch whatever such accident occurs. They feel compelled to look owing (many agree) to some pleasure they get. this pleasure that compels is consistent with thier feeling sympathy and care for others. That is, just because you care about others suffering and wish that they didn't suffer you can still have an unavoidable taste for the grisly scences of their suffering - e.g., horror movies.

now UFC is one bloody motherf_cking sport. if girls (on a general level) don't have taste for the athelticism of the contenders at least they can apreciate the lurid scenes of the suffering.

If anyone could resolve this problem please tell me. BTW I'm not a pyscho and I have sympathy for my fellow humans.


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because it's stupid


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i rarely watch television...let alone sports. i have usually have better things to do than that...

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Macherry,
I agree that it's stupid but the "intellectual" content has nothing to do with enjoying the grisly-ness of it. guys don't watch it to learn something


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WTF is UFC?


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WTF is UFC?

Good question. Please enlighten those of us who aren't sutured to the tube.


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A voyeristic(sp?) attraction to intentional violence is (generally speaking) not part of women's psychological makeup. It seems you're confusing this trait with compassion.

The desire to ease suffering is not the same as wanting to witness it.

UFC - Ultimate Fighting Championship


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WTF is UFC?

UFC is the ULTIMATE FIGHTING CHAMIONSHIP.

It's a an XTREME BATTLE in a fenced arena between honed athletes from all styles of MARTIAL ARTS where ANYTHING goes. Except striking to the groin. That's against the rules. Oh and striking the eyes. And throat. And no kneeing downed opponents. Or stamping on them. And definitely no biting.

So basically it's two men in speedos slapping eacj other about a bit then cuddling each other on the floor.

Which may say quite a lot about men who are fans of it.


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now UFC is one bloody motherf_cking sport. if girls (on a general level) don't have taste for the athelticism of the contenders at least they can apreciate the lurid scenes of the suffering.


Come on ladies, fess up. You know witnessing suffering gets you hot.

"Holy Shit!! That guy just broke that other guy's arm and the bone is sticking through the skin!! Goddamn I'm horney!! Stick it in me, baby!!"

If I had a dollar for everytime I got laid due to suffering-induced lust, I'd be filthy rich. Imagine getting laid every time the news comes on or you drive past a traffic accident. And Ulitmate Fighting, forget about. That is a guaranteed freaky threesome.


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Okay, so I'm getting a number of objections. People seem to disagree that nearly all humans have a taste for the lurid with the exception of one who attributes the taste for the lurid to some homesexual desire.

hmmm...okay, this point - that all humans have a taste for the lurid - I could just defend by saying "hey, this point isn't even controversial. those familiar with the topic mostly agree and it was even used as a joke on The Simpsons." But I'll point the the usual example anyway. We enjoy horror movies. ta da!!! In any case it would be more interesting if we just take this point for granted and move on.

Does anyone know why the taste for the grisly doesn't compel many women to watch UFC?????

-just curious (this question is kinda stupid now that I think about it but a good answer would be fasinating, I hope, to us all)


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okay, this point - that all humans have a taste for the lurid - I could just defend by saying "hey, this point isn't even controversial. those familiar with the topic mostly agree and it was even used as a joke on The Simpsons." But I'll point the the usual example anyway. We enjoy horror movies. ta da!!! In any case it would be more interesting if we just take this point for granted and move on.

It's a bogus assertion.... or do you have something more scholarly to back this up?


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I haven't seen it, but I saw Raging Bull and thought I was going to cry the whole time. The idea of guys punching eachother just bums me out. It's all but a requirement that guys I date have never been in a fight.

Probably because my dad is the ultimate macho-man and all he ever does is try to find an excuse to beat up men in my life. :)


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My and my bf went over to my friend Alison's place last month. She and her bf were watching a UFC marathon. I'll admit the 4 of us sat there watching this, or at least kept it in the background for a while.

It was okay, but nothing that I'm going to go out of my way to watch.

Verdict - Meh, whatever.


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Why is UFC Stupid?


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I LOVE that shit!

Especially the Ultimate Fighter reality show. I love watching a big cocky meathead get defeated and cry. I watched the whole first season and saw the grand finale. The light heavyweight match was rad. They just kept going.

See, one of the things I love about Alex is that he could and would throw down. He's a very intelligent and generally mellow, softspoken guy, so he doesn't seek violence, but if it finds him, score. Of course, I have told him, no cage fighting, since he can't have any more head injuries after he filled his quota of concussions during his BMX days ;)

I also think it's one of my tinygirl fantasies to be able to kick the shit out of some nasty bitch, and nunna that chickfight hairpulling and puppy whimpering crap. Like, fists and feet to the face. But I'm a delicate little flower, so I can't. heh.


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I also think it's one of my tinygirl fantasies to be able to kick the s--- out of some nasty b----, and nunna that chickfight hairpulling and puppy whimpering crap. Like, fists and feet to the face. But I'm a delicate little flower, so I can't. heh.

Next time you come to Colorado I will show you how to get somebody in an arm bar.....nasty!!!

:)


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If executed just so, will the victim look like a mutilated thanksgiving turkey? [/bloodlust]


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Probably because my dad is the ultimate macho-man and all he ever does is try to find an excuse to beat up men in my life. :)
That'll sure get you dates! Since you date non-fighters, I'm guessing they don't have a great record vs your dad.


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If executed just so, will the victim look like a mutilated thanksgiving turkey? [/bloodlust]
Not so turkey like. Look about halfway down the page here.


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WTF is UFC?

Good question. Please enlighten those of us who aren't sutured to the tube.

Unsolicited Finger in the Cooch

close relation to the UFA, Unsolicited Finger in the Anus, that I'm sure many of the menfolk around here have experienced.

Maculated knows what I'm talkin' about.


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Personally I find it - and many other "sports" - boring.

The first (and last) time I watched UFC I fell asleep. Serisously. I didnt have a problem with the gore or anything like that - but as ma cherry said, its kinda stupid. Its boring. Theres 2 dudes. slapping each other. for like an hour. thats it..?

Theres nothing interesting about that. You see one you've seen em all. Same thing with american football if you ask me (but thats another thread entirely). Theres virtually no room for progressive advancement. In rock climbing you see people constantly pushing and exceeding what was previously thought to be humanly impossible (i.e. climbing 5.15, crimping on wee little credit card sized grips, etc.). In UFC - the guy throws a punch or a kick - the other guy bleeds, maybe even gets knocked out. Ummm so what? That happens all the time. And often in more creative ways than sticking them in a cage together and saying go at it.

Sorry but, its stupid. I'd be entirely in favor of bringing back ancient Roman style entertainment when they would throw them in a pit with a lion or something though.


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Honestly, Gene, the more you post, the more I'm convinced that you are outspokenly clueless when it comes to women and relationships.


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Saying that people have a taste for the lurid is just obsurd. I'd say a well-balanced person raised in a good environment would be compassionate in most cases where someone else is suffering. If you're messed up or raised in a pretty bad environment I could see how you'd have some morbid fascination with pain being inflicted upon another human being. I say this because I believe that all humans have a predisposition to relating to how other humans feel (rather than saying we have a predisposition to relate to the lurid or the compassionate). So if you're a good, balanced person you'll be most likely to help someone who's fallen down. If you're screwed up in the head, you might laugh at an old lady falling and breaking her hip.


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Personally I find it - and many other "sports" - boring.

The first (and last) time I watched UFC I fell asleep. Serisously. I didnt have a problem with the gore or anything like that - but as ma cherry said, its kinda stupid. Its boring. Theres 2 dudes. slapping each other. for like an hour. thats it..?

Theres nothing interesting about that. You see one you've seen em all. Same thing with american football if you ask me (but thats another thread entirely). Theres virtually no room for progressive advancement. In rock climbing you see people constantly pushing and exceeding what was previously thought to be humanly impossible (i.e. climbing 5.15, crimping on wee little credit card sized grips, etc.). In UFC - the guy throws a punch or a kick - the other guy bleeds, maybe even gets knocked out. Ummm so what? That happens all the time. And often in more creative ways than sticking them in a cage together and saying go at it.

Sorry but, its stupid. I'd be entirely in favor of bringing back ancient Roman style entertainment when they would throw them in a pit with a lion or something though.
I think watching climbing is pretty damn boring, no matter how good and/or hard the climbing and climber are. The only thing remotely entertaining is watching a good dyno exhibition.

I also know how to climb, so the vicarious kick isn't there either.


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Saying that people have a taste for the lurid is just obsurd. I'd say a well-balanced person raised in a good environment would be compassionate in most cases where someone else is suffering. If you're messed up or raised in a pretty bad environment I could see how you'd have some morbid fascination with pain being inflicted upon another human being. I say this because I believe that all humans have a predisposition to relating to how other humans feel (rather than saying we have a predisposition to relate to the lurid or the compassionate). So if you're a good, balanced person you'll be most likely to help someone who's fallen down. If you're screwed up in the head, you might laugh at an old lady falling and breaking her hip.

So what.

These are trained mixed martial artists. All black belts in their sport. Not just guys slapping at each other. Watching chess is boring to but if you know what is actually going on you can appreciate it.


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I see, so what you are saying is apple = orange? Dude re-read your statement. I kinda get what you're saying about them being trained but the entire statement makes no sense.

Now let's make some distinctions here about pain and how we relate to it:

Old lady falling and hurting her self = not funny, sad in fact
A boxer knocking out another boxer hard = not that funny, not really sad, it just is (to me no more exciting than watching a sport with no violence at all)
A member of jackass falling down two flights of stairs = quite funny

now to get this topic on some kind of track, why do you think there such distinctions when dealing with images of pain and suffering?


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Honestly, Gene, the more you post, the more I'm convinced that you are outspokenly clueless when it comes to women and relationships.

Hi B,
I remember my first post and how we exchanged barbs. that was the first time I actually went on an internet forum or even posted anything in public and so wasn't familiar with how things went. Just wanted to say I was sorry if my words were biting (actually, I hope you don't even remember that I was that guy????)

In any case, you're right about my not understanding women nor humans in general for that matter. I think that's why I like to read the thoughts of others on this forum and elicit their responses. I read on your previous posts that you got accepted to an excellent college, congratulations! you got accepted to CAL, I'm guessing. very good school. a lot of my friends went there and I really enjoyed the campus when I visited. I was wondering whether or not they held intramural racquetball tournaments there. if so keep me posted if possible.


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Saying that people have a taste for the lurid is just obsurd. I'd say a well-balanced person raised in a good environment would be compassionate in most cases where someone else is suffering. If you're messed up or raised in a pretty bad environment I could see how you'd have some morbid fascination with pain being inflicted upon another human being. I say this because I believe that all humans have a predisposition to relating to how other humans feel (rather than saying we have a predisposition to relate to the lurid or the compassionate). So if you're a good, balanced person you'll be most likely to help someone who's fallen down. If you're screwed up in the head, you might laugh at an old lady falling and breaking her hip.

B.Saint,
I don't know how to respond really. I knew that this objection would be raised and tried to answer it in the original post. I actually agree with you that a person that enjoys the suffering of others is depraved but I can still maintain my origiinal position. I haven't the patience right now to go over the fine details of my thoughts at the moment but I can say this much. that humans have a taste for the lurid was something assumed in Socrates day down to the very present. The Greek classist criticized dramatists for using such a device to ellicit responses of delight from their audience - because it was cheap not that it was morally objectionable.

BTW, B.Saint, quit acting like a morally upright guy man. that's just not consistent with your character.


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And what prcisely do you think you know about my character ??? On the internet, I am a character; no more and no less.


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And what prcisely do you think you know about my character ??? On the internet, I am a character; no more and no less.

relax man. I was just kidding. I'm not used to using those face icons but there was supposed to be a :twisted: next the the ending. in any case, you're right I don't know much about you nor anyone nor could I judge with any good basis


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I wasn't aware that anyone liked UFC. Really, why would you fry chicken in urine?


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I FUCKING LOVE UFC!!

makes me spazzy and anxt...

love it!!!!!

my sweetie and I went recently...7th row.
pics with UFC stars (Ken Shamrock) and then Hanger with the boobie girls.

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All humans have a taste for lurid, grisly scenes and we're all familier with that trite example of both men and women driving down a highway and turning their heads in order to watch whatever such accident occurs. They feel compelled to look owing (many agree) to some pleasure they get. this pleasure that compels is consistent with thier feeling sympathy and care for others. That is, just because you care about others suffering and wish that they didn't suffer you can still have an unavoidable taste for the grisly scences of their suffering - e.g., horror movies.

stfu.....there's a difference between curiosity and and watching a fight....there's just alot of rambling and nothing solid in your post....girls typically don't like violence...THERE"S YOUR FUCKING ANSWER :roll:

i feel dumber for reading your post


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So what.

These are trained mixed martial artists. All black belts in their sport. Not just guys slapping at each other. Watching chess is boring to but if you know what is actually going on you can appreciate it.

exactly.
And if you don't like it. Turn it off.

TAP OUT! and leave the ring.



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Having competed in MA (specifically TKD)...I'd say it's similar in many respects to climbing.

People who don't understand competitive fighting are similar to people who don't understand climbing.

I got asked many of the same silly questions as a fighter as I do now as a climber.

For the most part...you have to do it to 'get it'


HLB


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double post.


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now to get this topic on some kind of track, why do you think there such distinctions when dealing with images of pain and suffering?


or looking at strategy...speed, training..endurance, concentration/moment decisions.


There is more to it than the suffering, or pain.
To watch it, and know it's gotta hurt, and then all these terms(nomenclature) techniques are used and it all comes together.

(strategy...speed, training..endurance, concentration/moment decisions)

I"m hooked.

my personal choice to watch.

so...


Lets GET IT OOOOOOOOOON!

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Right. violence is so fucking cool. Having spent 4 yrs in TKD, I couldn't wait for my chance to beat the shit out of someone for looking at me cross-eyed and basically shit all over the whole concept of martial arts. And when the chance came and I spiked the poor individual's head off the hood of some shitty Yugo because he happened to fuck with me when I was drunk and stupid, well, it made me realize exactly how far out of the trees our species hasn't come. You know, just can't get enough violence. Anyone see the unrated version of High Tension? I actually sported wood during the scene with the circular saw. Where's my woman at? I feel the need to kick her ass around the house a little.


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Personally I find it - and many other "sports" - boring.

The first (and last) time I watched UFC I fell asleep. Serisously. I didnt have a problem with the gore or anything like that - but as ma cherry said, its kinda stupid. Its boring. Theres 2 dudes. slapping each other. for like an hour. thats it..?

Theres nothing interesting about that. You see one you've seen em all. Same thing with american football if you ask me (but thats another thread entirely). Theres virtually no room for progressive advancement. In rock climbing you see people constantly pushing and exceeding what was previously thought to be humanly impossible (i.e. climbing 5.15, crimping on wee little credit card sized grips, etc.). In UFC - the guy throws a punch or a kick - the other guy bleeds, maybe even gets knocked out. Ummm so what? That happens all the time. And often in more creative ways than sticking them in a cage together and saying go at it.

Sorry but, its stupid. I'd be entirely in favor of bringing back ancient Roman style entertainment when they would throw them in a pit with a lion or something though.
I think watching climbing is pretty damn boring, no matter how good and/or hard the climbing and climber are. The only thing remotely entertaining is watching a good dyno exhibition.

I also know how to climb, so the vicarious kick isn't there either.

Oh, I agree 100%. which is why I dont watch climbing either.
I m merely talking about why I enjoy the sports that I do and why I find the ones that i dont, exceedingly boring. UFC is one of the latter.


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Right. violence is so f---ing cool. Having spent 4 yrs in TKD, I couldn't wait for my chance to beat the s--- out of someone for looking at me cross-eyed and basically s--- all over the whole concept of martial arts. And when the chance came and I spiked the poor individual's head off the hood of some s--- Yugo because he happened to f--- with me when I was drunk and stupid, well, it made me realize exactly how far out of the trees our species hasn't come. You know, just can't get enough violence. Anyone see the unrated version of High Tension? I actually sported wood during the scene with the circular saw. Where's my woman at? I feel the need to kick her ass around the house a little.

The more ironic bullshit you type the more you demonstrate you have no idea what you are typing about.


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Hey T, wanna fight? :D


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These are trained mixed martial artists. All black belts in their sport. Not just guys slapping at each other. Watching chess is boring to but if you know what is actually going on you can appreciate it.

Well, the problem as I see it is not the competitors, it's the rules, which do reduce serious competitors to slapping.

As an example, what do you do if someone rushes your legs for a takedown? Now, if that were me, I'd just kick or knee that person in the face.

But in UFC, you can't do that because it's against the rules. Which makes a takedown safe and easy.

Similarly, if an opponent is on the ground and you're standing up, what do you do? Well, my personal preference is to stamp on them. If they try to use their legs to defend, it's no big deal, just stamp on their feet and legs. But again, in UFC, stamping's not allowed.

The competitors are, I'm sure, tough guys. But the restrictions in the rules reduce the fights to the cuddling we see so often. It's just boring.


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Nov 4, 2005, 3:30 PM
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Well, the problem as I see it is not the competitors, it's the rules, which do reduce serious competitors to slapping.

As an example, what do you do if someone rushes your legs for a takedown? Now, if that were me, I'd just kick or knee that person in the face.
But in UFC, you can't do that because it's against the rules. Which makes a takedown safe and easy.

I can see that you haven't been in too many fights. Stick to art, and stay out of street fights.

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Similarly, if an opponent is on the ground and you're standing up, what do you do? Well, my personal preference is to stamp on them. If they try to use their legs to defend, it's no big deal, just stamp on their feet and legs. But again, in UFC, stamping's not allowed.

Sort of like trying to stamp on a rotating lawn mower blade. If observing your tactics weren't so dangerous, they would be very entertaining to watch. Though, in reality, you would get clobbered if you attempted to employ those tactics against an experienced fighter, especially in the street.


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And you'd be a "fighter" would you rufus?

:lol:

Sounds very macho.

Tell me, if someone rushes their face towards your knees, what's complicated or dangerous about kneeing them in the face? Similarly, If someone's lying down, what's difficult or dangerous about stamping on them? Toes and feet are delicate things and it's suprisingly hard to fight when they're broken.

I'd be interested to hear what your specific objections would be to these techniques. Of course, I've primarily used them in fights in the controlled environment of a training session or competition - it's true that I'm not really that experienced at fighting in the street since most of the informal fights I've been in have been in bars, houses, clubs, cars, stairwells and the like.


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the informal fights I've been in have been in bars, houses, clubs, cars, stairwells and the like.

Why do you get in so many fights? How has such a propensity toward violence put you in jail or cost you relationships or jobs? Seriously, I can't imagine fighting so much. Was it all self-defense? Did fighting solve some problem effectively?

Sincerely curious, it just sounds like a different world. Very risky. Knives and guns being drawn are a real possibility, aren't they?


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Why do you get in so many fights?

Not so much "do" as "did". The usual boyish posturing and occasional scuffle got very out of hand and escalated into some bad stuff. :oops:

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How has such a propensity toward violence put you in jail or cost you relationships or jobs?

That and a lot more. I've never had a custodial sentence but I've got an embarrassing criminal record. By the time I left the small town where I grew up in my late teens, I had a lot of difficulty forming friendships and no chance at all of any kind of romantic involvement - I was just too messed up. It pretty much wrecked my early twenties when I should have been getting laid and partying. Instead I was paranoid, antisocial and excruciatingly lonely.

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Was it all self-defense? Did fighting solve some problem effectively?

Not self-defense as such. These things become self-sustaining pretty quickly. The risk of serious retaliation from groups with whom you're in close proximity in a small town environment pushes the stakes very high. How do you end it? You know the other guy's not going to back down. So how do you? It's a vicious circle.

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Knives and guns being drawn are a real possibility, aren't they?

It's almost inevitable I think. There's a world of difference between the kind of fight that happens spontaneously and ends in bruises, bust noses and cops and the kind of fight that's not really a fight at all but a planned, systematic beating. One can be forgiven and forgotten, the other leads to bad times for all concerned.


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And you'd be a "fighter" would you rufus?

:lol:

Sounds very macho.

Tell me, if someone rushes their face towards your knees, what's complicated or dangerous about kneeing them in the face? Similarly, If someone's lying down, what's difficult or dangerous about stamping on them? Toes and feet are delicate things and it's suprisingly hard to fight when they're broken.

I'd be interested to hear what your specific objections would be to these techniques. Of course, I've primarily used them in fights in the controlled environment of a training session or competition - it's true that I'm not really that experienced at fighting in the street since most of the informal fights I've been in have been in bars, houses, clubs, cars, stairwells and the like.

Bullshit. You know all of the fights you've been in have been in the stands at soccer (I mean football) games. You Hooligan.


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s---. You know all of the fights you've been in have been in the stands at soccer (I mean football) games. You Hooligan.

:lol:


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All humans have a taste for lurid, grisly scenes and we're all familier with that trite example of both men and women driving down a highway and turning their heads in order to watch whatever such accident occurs. They feel compelled to look owing (many agree) to some pleasure they get. this pleasure that compels is consistent with thier feeling sympathy and care for others. That is, just because you care about others suffering and wish that they didn't suffer you can still have an unavoidable taste for the grisly scences of their suffering - e.g., horror movies.

stfu.....there's a difference between curiosity and and watching a fight....there's just alot of rambling and nothing solid in your post....girls typically don't like violence...THERE"S YOUR f---ing ANSWER :roll:

i feel dumber for reading your post

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All humans have a taste for lurid, grisly scenes and we're all familier with that trite example of both men and women driving down a highway and turning their heads in order to watch whatever such accident occurs. They feel compelled to look owing (many agree) to some pleasure they get. this pleasure that compels is consistent with thier feeling sympathy and care for others. That is, just because you care about others suffering and wish that they didn't suffer you can still have an unavoidable taste for the grisly scences of their suffering - e.g., horror movies.

stfu.....there's a difference between curiosity and and watching a fight....there's just alot of rambling and nothing solid in your post....girls typically don't like violence...THERE"S YOUR f---ing ANSWER :roll:

i feel dumber for reading your post

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Gene,

Stop pouting and sack up. You opened a thread about tough guys, and now you are pouting, because someone verbally challenged you. You might not be a street fighter, although your education should have supplied you with enough savvy to verbally bite back. Get back in there and fight, man. Don't take crap from that tree hugger. Verbally excoriate him until he taps out cries for his mommy.


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Damn!! Gene, you just got called out by rufus. If you don't respond now, then you are a puss and need to be watching Oprah and Extreme Makeover rather than UFC.


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Right. violence is so f---ing cool. Having spent 4 yrs in TKD, I couldn't wait for my chance to beat the s--- out of someone for looking at me cross-eyed and basically s--- all over the whole concept of martial arts. And when the chance came and I spiked the poor individual's head off the hood of some s--- Yugo because he happened to f--- with me when I was drunk and stupid, well, it made me realize exactly how far out of the trees our species hasn't come. You know, just can't get enough violence. Anyone see the unrated version of High Tension? I actually sported wood during the scene with the circular saw. Where's my woman at? I feel the need to kick her ass around the house a little.

The more ironic s--- you type the more you demonstrate you have no idea what you are typing about.
:D Why thank you Zozo, for pointing that out to me. That's what I like about this website: always some Mensa scholar waiting in the wings to tell you that you don't know what your talking about.


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Why do you get in so many fights?

Not so much "do" as "did".

You've got style tradman. And I'm glad you probably won't stomp my face when we meet.


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Hers a couple of things i know:

TUF on spike TV is a lame show trying to get attention to an organization(UFC) that is loosing its credability in the MMA world. In its inception the UFC was the real deal. No rules whatsoever. That means no weight classes, no 4 ounce gloves, no time limit and ANYTHING went. However too many people were getting seriosuly injuried, no deathes though. As it organized and grew it got better. Fights were timed and had rounds, weight classes were brought in and certain rules like no punching to the groin, no grabbing of the tracea(sp?), etc etc. Dana White is slowly killing the UFC with over sponsorship. Your watching a commerical most of the time for a product, than enjoying a fight.

The UFC has been loosing fans and fighters to PRIDE. PRIDE has less rules than UFC so people and fighters are more attracted to this organization overall. and they have bigger payouts for fighters

Last but not least. theres alot of bashing on MMA overall in here and in other places. I encourage anyone who dosnt think MMA style of fighting is the real deal, or find it homo erotic to go to a local club or gym where they train and challenge anyone u see. They will be more than happy to hand you your ass on silver platter

Daniel


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Hers a couple of things i know:

You should've stayed in school.

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they will be more than happy to hand you your ass on silver platter

Gee, you're right. That doesn't sound homoerotic at all.

UB


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What makes it "ultimate"??

Perhaps it's the shorts...
http://www.combatguy.com/...h/Shorts_189x165.jpg

or the super sexy groin guard...
http://www.combatguy.com/...0Deleuxe_2001_1_.jpg

Personally, if I'm going to watch a televised "sport" with a superlative in it's title, the Most Extreme Challenge gets my vote!


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All humans have a taste for lurid, grisly scenes and we're all familier with that trite example of both men and women driving down a highway and turning their heads in order to watch whatever such accident occurs. They feel compelled to look owing (many agree) to some pleasure they get. this pleasure that compels is consistent with thier feeling sympathy and care for others. That is, just because you care about others suffering and wish that they didn't suffer you can still have an unavoidable taste for the grisly scences of their suffering - e.g., horror movies.

stfu.....there's a difference between curiosity and and watching a fight....there's just alot of rambling and nothing solid in your post....girls typically don't like violence...THERE"S YOUR f---ing ANSWER :roll:

i feel dumber for reading your post

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Gene,

Stop pouting and sack up. You opened a thread about tough guys, and now you are pouting, because someone verbally challenged you. You might not be a street fighter, although your education should have supplied you with enough savvy to verbally bite back. Get back in there and fight, man. Don't take crap from that tree hugger. Verbally excoriate him until he taps out cries for his mommy.

listen, the :cry: was meant in irony - meaning: "I don't give a f_ck"

sheesh, I'm not sure if you guys, Rufus and wcja, noticed and if you guys did you sure did a good job of fustrating my intended sarcasm and reduced me to a supreme mollycoddle or something. thanks a lot _ssh_les :wink:


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listen, the :cry: was meant in irony - meaning: "I don't give a f_ck"

sheesh, I'm not sure if you guys, Rufus and wcja, noticed and if you guys did you sure did a good job of fustrating my intended sarcasm and reduced me to a supreme mollycoddle or something. thanks a lot _ssh_les :wink:

What a disappointment, Gene. And here I thought that I was going to watch Tattoo meet his maker. :boring:


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again i say, go and find out for yourself unabonger


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