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88088
Mar 21, 2006, 10:49 PM
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Hello, I go to an indoor rock climbing gym and I see everyone's using "chalk" to help their grip. Will "regular teacher chalk" work? What is the cheapest chalk.......I only climb in my free time, I don't need any fancy stuff. Also, is the chalk the same stuff that the gymnists use? Is that cheaper to get? Thanks, Chase
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thomasribiere
Mar 21, 2006, 10:58 PM
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That's a strange question. I would say that all chalks are the same so buy the cheapest. You might fing some colored chalk, some "liquid chalk" (required in some gyms in France), some expensive labeled chalks, but basically chalk is chalk. Chalk for gymnist might be less expensive if you buy large amounts, but that's a supposition.
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grk10vq
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you need to get chalk that will help you think for yourself.
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88088
Mar 21, 2006, 11:44 PM
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Why is everyone busting me.....All I did was ask a simple question.....why did everyone just insult me?
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thomasribiere
Mar 21, 2006, 11:46 PM
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I didn't! :?
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alpine_monk
Mar 21, 2006, 11:48 PM
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ohh yokese can I have some of your chalk?
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88088
Mar 22, 2006, 12:24 AM
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YES I KNOW....! Thank you!
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mtntran
Mar 22, 2006, 12:27 AM
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Climbing chalk is Magnesium Carbonate, which is simply just a dehydrating agent, meaning it'll absorb water, moisture, sweats... Chalk that you see in gymnastics and weight gyms is Calcium Carbonate, which serves the same function.
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mtntran
Mar 22, 2006, 12:29 AM
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oh...also, I do believe "teacher's chalk" is also calcium carbonate, which I'd assume would also work, but ofcourse you'd have to grind them up into powder to use.
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roshiaitareya
Mar 22, 2006, 12:53 AM
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Whatever kind you use, make sure you get organic chalk. Keep it pure, keep it real.
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yokese
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Well, now seriously: "climbing chalk" is magnesium carbonate (with more or less additives) and is exactly the same stuff used in gymnastics and weight-lifting. Blackboard chalk is calcium carbonate (or calcium sulfate dihydrate) and no, it doesn't absorb the moisture as magnesium carbonate does.
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taller_climber_dude
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yeah make sure its organic chalk because you can eat it. only organic
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tnwagener
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You can buy the chalk in Block form, loose form, or now becoming more popular is bag form (ecco ball, etc.) they all work the same just in different ways. Blocks are for people who like to work it in their hands more, loose is more for dipping your hands into to help dry them and the Ecco ball style is a closed bag or ball with chalk in it. More gyms are starting to require the Ecco balls because the chalk is enclosed and there is less chance of spilling your chalk. Check with your local gym on their requirements and they may even sell it. Otherwise look for magnesium carbonate. it is usually sold on eBay fairly inexpensively $2-$5 plus shipping depending on the amount you buy and what form it is in. if you buy loose or block chalk you will also need a chalk bag to hold it $10-$15. Try your local Gym or Shops first because it is always better to support the local places as they are the backbone of our towns. They make it all possible. plus you may make friends and find people to climb with.
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Mar 22, 2006, 5:52 AM
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T 0 I agree
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Mar 22, 2006, 12:16 PM
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Magnesium Carbonate is Magnesium Carbonate. Buy block chalk for a buck and have fun. Everyone's insulting you because, as pretentious as it is.. YOU'RE A STUPID N00B. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg It's nothing personal, it's just something we cream our pants doing. Enjoy the Forums NOOB.
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tnwagener
Mar 22, 2006, 1:58 PM
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OK guys, This is supposed to be something where we help new climbers learn the ins and the out of climbing without making some of the same mistakes we might have when we started. We should be supportive and help each other out. Not resort to name calling. they are not stupid because they don't know, that is why they are here. In the beginners forum, TO LEARN. If we treat others like that they will get discouraged and then they will quit and then there will be no future left. remember when you were a Noob? you probably asked the same questions. so lets all try to be civilized.
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Mar 22, 2006, 2:22 PM
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Unless you have very sweaty hands or the route is wet, it is totally a head game. Almost like Linus's blanket. Climbing chalk is for the more insecure climbers. I've watched so many climbers dipping in to their chalk bags as a habit. Some even dip two or three times before even moving an inch. I've only used my chalk a couple of times over the years. Over-rated. jammer
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In reply to: You can buy the chalk in Block form, loose form, or now becoming more popular is bag form (ecco ball, etc.) they all work the same just in different ways. Blocks are for people who like to work it in their hands more, loose is more for dipping your hands into to help dry them and the Ecco ball style is a closed bag or ball with chalk in it. More gyms are starting to require the Ecco balls because the chalk is enclosed and there is less chance of spilling your chalk. Check with your local gym on their requirements and they may even sell it. Otherwise look for magnesium carbonate. it is usually sold on eBay fairly inexpensively $2-$5 plus shipping depending on the amount you buy and what form it is in. if you buy loose or block chalk you will also need a chalk bag to hold it $10-$15. Try your local Gym or Shops first because it is always better to support the local places as they are the backbone of our towns. They make it all possible. plus you may make friends and find people to climb with. http://www.stfu-noob.com/...6_sign.highlight.jpg I think you have a few things confused there. If are buying an eco-ball you arent buying chalk. It is a chalk alternative and is a drying agent in a ball. What you are thinking about is a refillable chalk ball. -Aaron
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Mar 22, 2006, 2:32 PM
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In reply to: Why is everyone busting me.....All I did was ask a simple question.....why did everyone just insult me? Because you asked a question that could have been answered by: 1) going to google 2) typing climbers chalk 3) clicking any early entry 4) reading for your self If you want a little more abuse, then ask what a good rock shoe is. Or who are the famous climbers.
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Yes, I've never used an ecco ball myself as I have a refillable but use the term for both as the local gym prefers ecco balls as that is what the owner used but he still allows refillable chalk balls. I never actually looked at what is used in one of those so now i will have to do some research.
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In reply to: In reply to: Why is everyone busting me.....All I did was ask a simple question.....why did everyone just insult me? Because you asked a question that could have been answered by: 1) going to google 2) typing climbers chalk 3) clicking any early entry 4) reading for your self If you want a little more abuse, then ask what a good rock shoe is. Or who are the famous climbers. If the average rc.comer did as you suggested it would eliminate 90+% of the posts, probably 99% of the useless posts and rc.com could be a usefull place to hang out. Oh what a wonderful world that would be. But first the average rc.comer would have to have a measurable IQ.
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In reply to: Unless you have very sweaty hands or the route is wet, it is totally a head game. Almost like Linus's blanket. Climbing chalk is for the more insecure climbers. I've watched so many climbers dipping in to their chalk bags as a habit. Some even dip two or three times before even moving an inch. I've only used my chalk a couple of times over the years. Over-rated. jammer Word.
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Mar 22, 2006, 4:52 PM
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I personally like Super Chalk by Metolius or Revolution Chalk. I have tried Bison Chalk and that was awful. It was similar to putting on a pair of silk mittens and then trying to climb.
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In reply to: Unless you have very sweaty hands or the route is wet, it is totally a head game. Almost like Linus's blanket. Climbing chalk is for the more insecure climbers. I've watched so many climbers dipping in to their chalk bags as a habit. Some even dip two or three times before even moving an inch. I've only used my chalk a couple of times over the years. Over-rated. jammer Get off the slabs!!!!! :D
In reply to: Yes, I've never used an ecco ball myself as I have a refillable but use the term for both as the local gym prefers ecco balls as that is what the owner used but he still allows refillable chalk balls. I never actually looked at what is used in one of those so now i will have to do some research. Leave the gym, and STFU already.
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There are three types loose chalk bought that way or in block form. Chalk balls some of which are refillable. And my favorite eco chalk. I prefer the Eco 1 Because it doesn't leave white marks all over the place. 2 It works better. There is also colored chalk which is good too providing it matches the rock color.
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jda, what bug crawled up your ass and died. I'm trying to help and people like you discourage others from joining your sport. And a little note, I've only spent this winter in the Gym, previous to this i have spent 2 years climbing and bouldering outside. If some people weren't as arrogant as yourself and were a little more helpful this sport might get a lot more good exposure as well as a lot more enthusiastic people to join. remember, you were a noob too once so maybe you should be the one to shut up and maybe think twice before you open you mouth to insult someone who is asking for some help. This forum is designed specifically for new people so either help or get out of this forum and into one that is more of what you are looking for.
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In reply to: jda, what bug crawled up your ass and died. I'm trying to help and people like you discourage others from joining your sport. And a little note, I've only spent this winter in the Gym, previous to this i have spent 2 years climbing and bouldering outside. If some people weren't as arrogant as yourself and were a little more helpful this sport might get a lot more good exposure as well as a lot more enthusiastic people to join. remember, you were a noob too once so maybe you should be the one to shut up and maybe think twice before you open you mouth to insult someone who is asking for some help. This forum is designed specifically for new people so either help or get out of this forum and into one that is more of what you are looking for. http://img139.exs.cx/...08/evilmonkey2rd.jpg STFU n00b3r :nono:
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^^^ Now, now children! Can't you just get along? He is actually correct about what to post where. May I suggest community for those who are looking for a challange ...
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I distinctly remember a warning when I signed up to search the forum before posting or be reamed by the "unnOOBs" and that if i still asked the question i would suffer the consequences (usually funny) :lol: . I'm for educating the nOOB and all, but sometimes it just doesn't work that way. Some of these, non thread searching, non spell checkers, will end up smashing their head on a rock or placing a cam totally backwards, or not realize they actually need to clip in to stay alive and the thwarting of such people from a dangerous sport may not be such a bad idea after all. I love bringing new people climbing, but then again, not everyone should be a climber. Just think of all the tick marks and garbage there would be! Ugg.
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I just get a kick out of surfing google images for STFU stuff.. this place makes too prac ap for that hobby
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In reply to: Some of these, non thread searching, non spell checkers, will end up smashing their head on a rock or placing a cam totally backwards, or not realize they actually need to clip in to stay alive and the thwarting of such people from a dangerous sport may not be such a bad idea after all. How the freck does not using spell check associate someone with forgetting to clip? I'm fairly sure my inability to spell 'chrysanthemum' doesn't make me or anyone else more liable to deck. Jesus guys, maybe there should be a limited amount of people that can respond to the beginner threads so that dickheads wont feel the need to pipe up and be assholes and new people might feel welcome. Don't get me wrong; he shoulda used the search function, but a simple nudge in that direction would have helped, instead of that immature bullshit some of you are spouting off. Grow the hell up. And kudos to those who respond with a bit of intelligence.
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In reply to: How the freck does not using spell check associate someone with forgetting to clip? I'm fairly sure my inability to spell 'chrysanthemum' doesn't make me or anyone else more liable to deck. easy sparky, I'm not about anyone who can't spell, but to anyone who can't/doesn't read instructions or take instruction. Usually if someone doesn't pay attention (i don't mean a.d.d.), it's not limited to one facet of life and that = dangerous in this sport. It doesn't seem like you read the disclaimer either :? otherwise you probably wouldn't be so pissed off. Hey guys, do you ever feel like you're, well... :deadhorse: with angry nOObs not readin stuff?
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No, I read the disclaimer, and as stated before, I still don't think that should lead you or anyone else to treat someone like shit on these or any other forums. Would you treat someone like that in real life? If I asked you at the gym if you thought there was a difference in chalk, or what the best kind of shoes to get, or anything else that you think would be easily answered with a bit of internet searching, would you give me a smart ass answer to my face? Or do you just have e-balls when you're confronted face to face with a live human being? Frankly, I expect that kind of pre-pubescent answer from an angry-at-life 14 year old posting on newgrounds.com. What I expect out of someone who engages in a sport like this that demands discipline and intelligence is the same answer that you would give to someone who was standing toe to toe with you, 'n00b' or not. I expect you to answer me like an adult. If you can't do that, maybe you should limit your answers to forums other than the 'beginners' forums, and leave this one to people who have a little integrity. I guess what I'm saying is if you're tired of answering 'n00b' questions, maybe you should STFU and not answer them.
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Hmm. Toe to toe eh? If you came to me in a normal gym setting and asked me, I'd answer whatever you needed. If the answers were plastered on the wall in millions of places and someone told you to read the walls before asking, I probably would give you some smart answer. I'm sorry if you think that's immature. No, actually I'm not sorry at all. In fact i hope you get violated by pig monkey men in the woods. Angry at life 14 year old? Maybe you should do a little self evaluation and read your own posts. For me, this conversation is over before this :deadhorse: turns into this :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
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In reply to: For me, this conversation is over Fine, then let these be the last words we trade on this conversation...
In reply to: If the answers were plastered on the wall in millions of places and someone told you to read the walls before asking, I probably would give you some smart answer. I'll bet you a dollar you wouldn't, but I guess we'll never find out, will we?
In reply to: Angry at life 14 year old? Maybe you should do a little self evaluation and read your own posts. I'm angry at you for being a dick to new people. I'm not picking on new people to make me feel better about myself.
In reply to: I'm sorry if you think that's immature. No, actually I'm not sorry at all. In fact i hope you get violated by pig monkey men in the woods. We'll, I guess that says it all for you, now doesn't it?
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We should all just ask Grover, he has the best responses to posts' of this nature. Carry On, Jefro
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In reply to: If the average rc.comer did as you suggested it would eliminate 90+% of the posts, probably 99% of the useless posts and rc.com could be a usefull place to hang out. Oh what a wonderful world that would be. But first the average rc.comer would have to have a measurable IQ. But it wouldn't be any fun anymore.
In reply to: I'm fairly sure my inability to spell 'chrysanthemum' doesn't make me or anyone else more liable to deck. Yeah, but how many times are you going to be talking about flowers in one of your posts? It's the whole mindset of the thing, if you're too lazy to click the button under the post window, then what makes anyone think you're not too lazy to learn to set a cam right? Or anything else climbing related for that matter (besides stopping mid route to pick a chrysanthemum)?
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In reply to: It's the whole mindset of the thing, if you're too lazy to click the button under the post window, then what makes anyone think you're not too lazy to learn to set a cam right? Well, my life doesn't depend on whether on not I've used a search function, for one. And maybe I'd like to pick flowers on the way up.... :)
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dont use chalk. its alll in ur mind but there is some times u need it. so idk, i gusse im saying dont over use chalk.
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get the white stuff that makes your eyes burn when it gets in them. that stuff works really well. also the kind you see rednecks sniffing. i heard that stuff makes you climb so hard.
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I've heard plenty of people say that using chalk is purely mental, so, here's a little story. After coming back from a PBB several years ago, we'd just arrived back at a buddy's house and were examining our cheaply gotten booty. Much of it was some great 2nds from voodoo. One of the slopers was especially bad. It was shallow and very sloped. We tried to pick it up from the ground without using the edges. None of us could do it. Tried different angles and fingers we'd grip it by, but nothing worked. Finally someone grabs some superchalk, dips his fingers in and picks up the hold the first try. We all tried with chalk...no problem. Also, last night i was working on my rock rings hanging from the back porch doing open handed pull ups on the . After a while, i was having trouble sticking, the holds were getting sweaty. I got some chalk... worked just fine and continued. If you're on climbs 5.9 and under in cool conditions, chalk is probably not doing too much, but get to Arizona on any of our rock, almost any time of the year and chalk and a toothbrush will be your best friend. And thats why I believe in chalk. The End
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The white kind....
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