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This weekend charley, betaben, katydid and I had a great conversation about cooking and recipes. The suggestion came up we should create a thread/forum for not only campground cooking but cooking in general.

So, I'll start.

Thursday nights my wife has choir practice now, so I get to cook dinner.
I'm not much of a cook, but last week I made a nice crocpot meal, which I'll post in a bit.
Tonight I'm tackling meatloaf. Hopefully it'll go well.

So....

Meatloaf

Ingrediants:
1 lb ground chuck
3 slices of white bread torn into small pieces
1 cup of milk
1 egg beaten
1/4 cup minced onions (I substituted w/ onion powder, don't know how much I used though)
1 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon pepper
1 Tablespoon worchestershire sauce (I substituted w/ dijon mustard)
1 tablespoon ketsup

Combine into bread pan
Bake 1 hour 15 minutes @ 350°

It's my wife's recipe, so hopefully it'll go well.
Maybe we could even make this thread a sticky.

Edit to add:
charley, post up that meal you cooked that first night.


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I hate meatloaf made by adding pieces of bread slices. I prefer to use seasoned bread crumbs


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The meatloaf went great. My wife even said it was better than hers.
I agree, though. The bread made it too mushy.
Next time I'll use breadcrumbs.


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make it easy on yourself:

BBQ

meat
vegetables brushed with some light mariande
baked potatos.

Sliced fruit for desert,
glass of milk

There, you have all your food groups!

20 minutes and DONE. Cool


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Wait, is this campground cooking, or is it "wife is not home" cooking?

Here's an easy one for the second scenario:

1. cook rice(1 part rice to 2 parts water, salt, a teaspoon of oil-optional)

2.Sprinkle a slab of salmon with salt and some spices from the cupboard (e.g. Lemon Pepper seasoning. Or just dill, a squeeze of lemon and cracked black pepper. Or Great King Salmon rub from Costco). Broil it.

Serve with rice and salad.


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That's a complex meatloaf. I'm a big fan of the recipe I use, just because its simple and allows for a lot of experimentation on the cook's part. Also, tastes great with ketchup.

You need:
About a pound of ground beef, the leaner the better
3/4 cup unflavored oatmeal. I haven't found instant to be any better or worse than long cook oatmeal
1 egg
1 8oz can of tomato sauce
1 cup chopped onions (1 tbsp onion flakes works out to be the same amount)
1/4 tsp pepper
1/2 tsp salt

Mix it all together, put in a bread pan, bake it for an hour at 375. Slice and serve with ketchup.

This is also an excellent recipe for meatballs if you serve them with a non-Italian type sauce (golden mushroom soup works especially well or spicy ginger teriyaki sauce).

These of course require a dutch oven, but those are almost a necessity for campground gourmet. In fact, with a dutch oven, there's hardly anything you can't cook in camp, given you can get some hot coals.


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lena_chita wrote:
Wait, is this campground cooking, or is it "wife is not home" cooking?

Here's an easy one for the second scenario:

1. cook rice(1 part rice to 2 parts water, salt, a teaspoon of oil-optional)

2.Sprinkle a slab of salmon with salt and some spices from the cupboard (e.g. Lemon Pepper seasoning. Or just dill, a squeeze of lemon and cracked black pepper. Or Great King Salmon rub from Costco). Broil it.

Serve with rice and salad.

Oh yes! Fish fillet with skin on one side, sprinkle with salt & pepper, then fresh garlic over top! One of our regular favorites.


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Good god!

Meat loaf!!!???

Comparing notes on meat loaf???

Isn't that what they serve in prison???

Here's the official recipe. Slop mushed up meat in pan. Smear ketchup on it and cook until it's hot and steamy.

Writing that made me throw up a little in my mouth. It would be a sin against God and nature to add good seasoned Italian bread crumbs to that heeping mound of... I can't even continue this sentence.

This is what passes for food on this continent???!!! The only thing I can think to say is: May God have mercy on your souls.


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Okay. I've calmed down a bit. At first, I wasn't going to legitimately reply to this. But I've decided that you people need my help.

Okay, we'll start from the beginning. What do you guys want? Meat or fish?


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Ground chuck is much cheaper than a roast for me.
But do enlighten us jchildporto. Wink
I'm always up for new recipes. Especially since I have to cook every Thursday, now.

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jgloporto wrote:
Good god!

Meat loaf!!!???

Comparing notes on meat loaf???

Isn't that what they serve in prison???

Here's the official recipe. Slop mushed up meat in pan. Smear ketchup on it and cook until it's hot and steamy.

Writing that made me throw up a little in my mouth. It would be a sin against God and nature to add good seasoned Italian bread crumbs to that heeping mound of... I can't even continue this sentence.

This is what passes for food on this continent???!!! The only thing I can think to say is: May God have mercy on your souls.

I seem to remember carts in Sicily that served a pile of slop made of the remains of pigs that even the sausage factories wouldn't touch... no offense, but I'll take meatloaf over that. Wink

Then again, I never saw a single local eat that crap... tried it once and nearly puked.


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arrettinator wrote:
Ground chuck is much cheaper than a roast for me.
But do enlighten us jchildporto. Wink
I'm always up for new recipes. Especially since I have to cook every Thursday, now.

signed
E. Lagasse

Pfft. Julia Child was a hack.

First off, a meal is a delicate process not a bunch of stuff thrown on a table with a "Dig In!"

First the palette must cleansed (the aperitiff). Then the meal should be served in courses (with a clean dish for each course for crying out loud. Why not put it all in a blender). Each course should have a distinct flavor that meshes with the other courses. Then finally, digestion (the digestivi). Then coffee and desert. Which can come before or after a short leisurely walk (referred to as a passigiata).

We start with that framework. Now, what's it gonna be. Fish or meat.


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themadmilkman wrote:
jgloporto wrote:
Good god!

Meat loaf!!!???

Comparing notes on meat loaf???

Isn't that what they serve in prison???

Here's the official recipe. Slop mushed up meat in pan. Smear ketchup on it and cook until it's hot and steamy.

Writing that made me throw up a little in my mouth. It would be a sin against God and nature to add good seasoned Italian bread crumbs to that heeping mound of... I can't even continue this sentence.

This is what passes for food on this continent???!!! The only thing I can think to say is: May God have mercy on your souls.

I seem to remember carts in Sicily that served a pile of slop made of the remains of pigs that even the sausage factories wouldn't touch... no offense, but I'll take meatloaf over that. Wink

Then again, I never saw a single local eat that crap... tried it once and nearly puked.

Yeah, that's sufriti. And it's an acquired taste. You people can't start acquiring other more advanced tastes until you get a few of the most basic tastes first.


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We talk about a recipe thread and you give me Meatloaf!!

Here's any easy one that can be done at home or at camp, provided your car camping.

I call Dad's recipe (because he's the one that always made it.)

1 Pound of Ground Beef
1 Onion
4 Potaoes (depends on size, I always use to many)
- If you are camping get a couple of cans of
pre cooked potaoes, they cook faster.
1/2 pound shredded Chedder Cheese (I use sharp
Chedder).
Garlic (optional)

Brown the ground beef and drain. (set aside)
put some olive oil (I prefer bacon grease) in a pan and heat oil, get the garlic and onions frying then add the potaoes until soft. add the beef back to the pan and mix it all up. (you can add salt and pepper to taste.) Once the potatoes are soft and browned put the cheese on top and cover until the cheese is melted.

It's not a gourmet meal, or healthy, but it's comfort food for me.

and another easy one is Basic fried rice.

cook up some rice, while friying up some ham, scrambled eggs, onion, garlic and green peppers, mix the rice in, add soy sauce to taste.

Quick easy and filliing.

Ben


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betaben wrote:
We talk about a recipe thread and you give me Meatloaf!!

Here's any easy one that can be done at home or at camp, provided your car camping.

I call Dad's recipe (because he's the one that always made it.)

1 Pound of Ground Beef
1 Onion
4 Potaoes (depends on size, I always use to many)
- If you are camping get a couple of cans of
pre cooked potaoes, they cook faster.
1/2 pound shredded Chedder Cheese (I use sharp
Chedder).
Garlic (optional)

Brown the ground beef and drain. (set aside)
put some olive oil (I prefer bacon grease) in a pan and heat oil, get the garlic and onions frying then add the potaoes until soft. add the beef back to the pan and mix it all up. (you can add salt and pepper to taste.) Once the potatoes are soft and browned put the cheese on top and cover until the cheese is melted.

It's not a gourmet meal, or healthy, but it's comfort food for me.

Wow, add some soup to that and you've got a Shepard's Pie!


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jgloporto wrote:
arrettinator wrote:
Ground chuck is much cheaper than a roast for me.
But do enlighten us jchildporto. Wink
I'm always up for new recipes. Especially since I have to cook every Thursday, now.

signed
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Pfft. Julia Child was a hack.

First off, a meal is a delicate process not a bunch of stuff thrown on a table with a "Dig In!"

First the palette must cleansed (the aperitiff). Then the meal should be served in courses (with a clean dish for each course for crying out loud. Why not put it all in a blender). Each course should have a distinct flavor that meshes with the other courses. Then finally, digestion (the digestivi). Then coffee and desert. Which can come before or after a short leisurely walk (referred to as a passigiata).

We start with that framework. Now, what's it gonna be. Fish or meat.

let's go with fish, but please make it something that those of us that live away from the sea, can actually get.


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krillen wrote:
Wow, add some soup to that and you've got a Shepard's Pie!

Pretty much, If you you want to go all out throw in some crumbled up bacon.

I grew up poor, so if it didn't have gravy it was special. We had a large garden though and I worked on a farm so I got paid in Beef and Pork occasionally.


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betaben wrote:

let's go with fish, but please make it something that those of us that live away from the sea, can actually get.

Now your gonna make it tricky eh. Okay fine. We'll go with something simple. You're gonna need shrimp, calamari and flounder. All of which can be frozen and shipped so there should be no problem getting them locally.

As an overview, tonight's meal is going to be served in four courses. For the appetizer, we are going to have stuffed calamari served with a balsamic reduction over a bed of arugala. Next we will have flounder in a white wine sauce served with fresh steamed vegetables. After that, for the starch, we will have shells with fresh tomato and portobello mushrooms. Finally, a light vegetable soup with escarole and white beans. Normally, under these circumstances, I would make a soup with mussels or clams but shellfish is obviously a problem for some of you. After some after dinner drinks, we'll have coffee and my specialty (some of you have heard this before): zabaglione over sliced strawberries and vanilla ice cream.

I'll do this in several posts. Before we do anything, we'll first have an aperitiff. An aperitiff should be a bitter dark liquor. I prefer Averna but I presume that's tough to come by for some of you. Believe it or not, Jeigermeister is a perfect substitute. Serve it chilled in a fluted liquor glass. Next we have an assortment of dried aged cheeses and olives. Maybe a plate with extra virgin olive oil and rosemary served with some sliced italian bread to dip.

On to the prima piata. First the stuffing. First, clean the shrimp and dice into small pieces. Next, in a frying pan, brown thinly sliced garlic cloves (the amount of garlic you use is a personal decision) in some olive oil. Next add the diced shrimp and some chopped scallions. When the shrimp are almost completely cooked, add enough bread crumps to completely cover the shrimp. You may need to add another splash of olive oil. As soon as the breadcrumbs are brown, turn it off and put it all in a bowl.

Next, the calamari. These need to be whole calamari, not the pre-sliced ones. Rinse the calamari and cut the legs off. Bring a pot of water to boil and boil the calamari for just a minute. They should feel firmer. Drain them and then stuff them with the shrimp and the bread crumbs. Once they are stuffed, I prefer to grill them. You can put them in a small pan in the oven or in the broiler if don't have access to a grill. If you are going to grill, heat the grill up and grill them on a low flame. With calamari, you basically cook them until their white and firm. This should be pretty quick. On the grill, they should get seared with the grill surface but don't let them get blackened on the ends. Next in a sauce pan, reduce some balsamic vinegar. Put some arugula and a couple of calamari on each dish, then drizzle the balsamic reduction over them and serve with a lemon wedge on the side.

I gotta refill my coffee cup. The flounder will be on the next post.


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Okay, now for the flounder. This should be easy. Batter the flounder in flour. Heat a pan with some olive oil and garlic and lightly fry. Once its cooked through, add a bit more olive oil, a splash or two of white wine, a tablespoon of butter, cut and squeeze a lemon then add some capers, rosemary and a little salt and pepper. Let that go until the sauce gets thick. If its to loose, add a dash of baking powder. Turn 'em off, and put it on the side. For side vegetables that's your call. If it were me, I'd throw some asparagus in a an aspargus cooker (a worthwhile investment if you don't have one). Don't let them get to soft. When they're done, spread them out on a bake sheet. Group them into threes. Put a teaspoon of soft goat cheese and then wrap each group of three in a slice of prosciutto. Throw that in the oven basically until the cheese melts. On a new dish, put the flounder and the asparagus and serve.

I gotta take this call. Next course on the next post.


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betaben wrote:
We talk about a recipe thread and you give me Meatloaf!!
That's what I was cooking at the time.
I'll have to dig out the crockpot chicken tortilla soup recipe when I get home.
That is by far my favorite.


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jgloporto wrote:
Pfft. Julia Child was a hack.
Probably because she consumed more sherry than she put in her meals during her shows.


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arrettinator wrote:
jgloporto wrote:
Pfft. Julia Child was a hack.
Probably because she consumed more sherry than she put in her meals during her shows.

Make no mistake, Julia Child revolutionized cooking in the american home.


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I"m hanging on for the escarole and white bean soup... and my tummy is making noises


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Dude, you guys put way too much effort into food. How about my favorite recipe.

1 package, sliced Western Family ham. $0.50
1 package, beef ramen $0.12

Cook ramen. Tear up ham into smaller pieces, add to ramen. Serve with cold Pabst Blue Ribbon.

If you want to get really fancy, you can bump the total meal price up to $1.00, and eat a raw onion as well.


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Okay, now for the pasta dish. Shells. First, the pasta. Should be simple, but people tend to make critical errors with pasta thinking you just throw pasta in boiling water. First, fill up a pot of water. Add 1/2 a teaspoon of salt and a splash of olive oil to the water and bring it to a boil. Add the pasta after it comes to a full boil. Stir it periodically. Pasta should be al dente. Literally translated "to the teeth" as in should have to chew pasta as in don't cook the shit out of it. When it's al dente, drain it into a large colander and shake aggressively. Then immediately run it under cold tap water for a few seconds to stop it from clumping. Once the pasta's done, put it on the side.

In a frying pan, start with olive oil and whole garlic cloves. Slice some cherry tomatos add some fresh basil. You're basically first make a cherry tomato sauce first. IN A SEPARATE PAN, put olive oil, sliced portabello mushrooms. fresh parsley, salt, pepper, and a pinch of ground red pepper. When the mushrooms are brown, add pitted kalamata olives, let that go for a few seconds, then add a few capers. Another couple of seconds, then add sliced prosciutto, then pour in the cherry tomato sauce. You may need to add a few uncooked tomatos if it starts to dry up. Those fuckin mushrooms are like sponges. Then throw the shells into the pan for a few seconds to heat it all up and serve.

Next post, the soup.

I feel I should add that you should be serving white wine with this meal. I recommend pinot grigio.


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I"m hanging on for the escarole and white bean soup... and my tummy is making noises

Oh that's the easiest part. A light soup just for digestion. If it were the first plate, you'd make it like a wedding soup with the little meatballs or sausage, lots of rice and kidney beans. You can make with lentils instead. For an after dinner brodo, it's supposed to be light. The hardest part is cleaning the escarole. Cut all of the hard stuff off and trim the edges. Then cut the escarole into smaller pieces and rinse it well. Escarole usually has a lot of sand. Put in a colander. Wash it. When you think you're done, wash it again. In a frying pan, brown one whole onion, some fresh parsley, sliced garlic cloves (I like to add a couple of cherry tomatos). Once that's done, add the escarole and let it cook until it's tender (you'll know). In a pot, add some chicken stock, drain a can of white kidney beans, add the beans and let that simmer for a few minutes. Then add the escarole. Let that simmer. I like to let that go while I cook everything else and then set the flame real low just to keep it warm until it's time to serve it.

After the soup is done. Clear the table, put out some fresh cut endives and a bowl of almonds. For a digestivo, you can serve a nice brandy or cognac. I would serve grappa but I'm not sure how easy that is to come by in other places.

Note that Julia Grappa or other grappas that list at less than $20 a bottle should only be used for certain specific purposes, one of which is removing paint from a wall. If before getting this far in this post, you ran out and bought a bottle of Julia Grappa, here's what you do. Fill a mason jar with raisins and cinamon sticks then fill it to the brim with the Julia. Slap the lid on that sucker and then put on a shelf for about a year. After a year, you can bust that sucker out during the holidays.

Desert is on the next and final post.


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Roasted Chicken

This is super easy, yummy, and has eye appeal. And you can make soup out of the leftovers

1 whole fat chicken (organic or natural if you can get it)
lemons (at least 1 or two)
salt- kosher salt or coarse
freshly ground pepper
white wine- 2 cups
leeks OR a big white onion
pears, apples...

everything on the list down past the lemons and salt is optional, but really, the wine makes it.

Rinse off the chicken, pat it dry, and put it in a oiled baking dish or a dutch oven (it needs a lid to keep moisture in; or make a bomber foil cover) Squeeze the lemons all over, and stuff the lemon halves in the cavity. Cut the onion into big sections, same with the pears and/or apples, and toss them around the bird. Stuff the rosemary in the cavity or under the breast skin. Pour the white wine over everything. Sprinkle with coarse salt and ground pepper.

Put it in the oven at 375. Bake it for about an hour, maybe an hour and 15, the skin should get jsut a little golden and crispy. I don't even bother to baste it- If you take the lid off, all the moisture goes out. But sometimes I spread berry jam on the top and let that bake on for another 10. mmmm.

If there is any leftovers, make soup, or strip the remaining pieces off and put them in the food dehydrator, for meals when you gotta pack super lite. It rehydrates really fast. We brought this on a wilderness canoe trip & made cashew chicken.


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Last and final post. After the digestivi, it's time for coffee and desert. Espresso of course. True italians will have a doppio of high grade (stretto, stretto) espresso. Add 18 packets of sugar (or until spoon stands straight up) and a lemon peel. The espresso is then downed in a single shot and immediately followed by an american cigarette (we give credit where credit is due).

On to dessert. Slice some fresh strawberries, put em in a glass over a single scoop of vanilla ice cream and then put em in the fridge cause you'll need a few minutes. The recipe for zabaglione is easy:

Egg yolks
Sugar
Marsala wine

Put four or five egg yolks in a cool pan, add a tablespoon of sugar and two ounces of marsala. Turn the flame up high on the stove, hold it over the flame and start whisking. Keep whisking until its frothy and looks like pancake batter. If you don't whisk fast enough, it'll turn into scrambled eggs. You can add a splash of cream or half and half to make it smoother.

Some people will add some marscapone which will make it a little easier to make. But some people are lazy muthaf___ers. Skip the marscapone.

Pour the zabaglione over the strawberries and viola.

Badda bing, badda boom... you gotta dinner that might actually pass for food.

Easy, right?


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Will you come to my house and cook for me?


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Will you come to my house and cook for me?

I'll be in RMNP in the spring. If you're anywhere near the Front Range, I could be convinced. I could even drag some of the good stuff from here with my gear. Bread would be a minimum. None of this would be right without good bread.

What are you offering in return? I cook for belays, booze, or a bed.


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Don't fall.


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Will you come to my house and cook for me?

I'll be in RMNP in the spring. If you're anywhere near the Front Range, I could be convinced. I could even drag some of the good stuff from here with my gear. Bread would be a minimum. None of this would be right without good bread.

What are you offering in return? I cook for belays, booze, or a bed.

I'm in Denver so allow me to convince you:::

I'm good for all of three! I'll even throw in some bread. ;)

'K the bed may have to be a couch but I can definitely do the belay and booze. Woo woo. I'm a sucker for a good meal. There isn't much I won't do for good food...especially when I don't have to cook any of it.


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Don't fall.

Yeah. I hear that first step is a doozey.

I should be okay. My niece gave me all the beta. She just got promoted to Girl Scout from Brownie so I'm confident it's reliable.


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jgloporto wrote:
dr_feelgood wrote:
Don't fall.

Yeah. I hear that first step is a doozey.

I should be okay. My niece gave me all the beta. She just got promoted to Girl Scout from Brownie so I'm confident it's reliable.

Ouch.


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Doc's Foolproof Camping Food

Step 1: Reach in Cooler. Grab Beer.
Step 2: Open and Drink.
Repeat as necessary. Serves one or more.


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dr_feelgood wrote:
jgloporto wrote:
dr_feelgood wrote:
Don't fall.

Yeah. I hear that first step is a doozey.

I should be okay. My niece gave me all the beta. She just got promoted to Girl Scout from Brownie so I'm confident it's reliable.

Ouch.


Oh, did that hurt? You know what makes hurting like that go away? Army morphine.

!Alert! jglo has a small abrasion on his left knee and a minor blister developing on his right index finger. He needs morphine stat!


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maww wrote:
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maww wrote:
Will you come to my house and cook for me?

I'll be in RMNP in the spring. If you're anywhere near the Front Range, I could be convinced. I could even drag some of the good stuff from here with my gear. Bread would be a minimum. None of this would be right without good bread.

What are you offering in return? I cook for belays, booze, or a bed.

I'm in Denver so allow me to convince you:::

I'm good for all of three! I'll even throw in some bread. ;)

'K the bed may have to be a couch but I can definitely do the belay and booze. Woo woo. I'm a sucker for a good meal. There isn't much I won't do for good food...especially when I don't have to cook any of it.

Well if that's the case, a little more convincing and I'll pull out all the stops.


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arrettinator wrote:
Ground chuck is much cheaper than a roast for me.
But do enlighten us jchildporto. Wink
I'm always up for new recipes. Especially since I have to cook every Thursday, now.

signed
E. Lagasse

Pfft. Julia Child was a hack.

First off, a meal is a delicate process not a bunch of stuff thrown on a table with a "Dig In!"

First the palette must cleansed (the aperitiff). Then the meal should be served in courses (with a clean dish for each course for crying out loud. Why not put it all in a blender). Each course should have a distinct flavor that meshes with the other courses. Then finally, digestion (the digestivi). Then coffee and desert. Which can come before or after a short leisurely walk (referred to as a passigiata).

We start with that framework. Now, what's it gonna be. Fish or meat.


BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
We aren't all spoiled rich kids. You may not be either but that bullshit sounds like it is coming from some ass born with a silver spoon in his moth and was never hungry. I on the other hand grew up in a small town housing project.
I appreciate the fact that my mom worked two waitress jobs so she could afford to fix meatloaf.


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betaben wrote:

let's go with fish, but please make it something that those of us that live away from the sea, can actually get.

Now your gonna make it tricky eh. Okay fine. We'll go with something simple. You're gonna need shrimp, calamari and flounder. All of which can be frozen and shipped so there should be no problem getting them locally.

As an overview, tonight's meal is going to be served in four courses. For the appetizer, we are going to have stuffed calamari served with a balsamic reduction over a bed of arugala. Next we will have flounder in a white wine sauce served with fresh steamed vegetables. After that, for the starch, we will have shells with fresh tomato and portobello mushrooms. Finally, a light vegetable soup with escarole and white beans. Normally, under these circumstances, I would make a soup with mussels or clams but shellfish is obviously a problem for some of you. After some after dinner drinks, we'll have coffee and my specialty (some of you have heard this before): zabaglione over sliced strawberries and vanilla ice cream.

I'll do this in several posts. Before we do anything, we'll first have an aperitiff. An aperitiff should be a bitter dark liquor. I prefer Averna but I presume that's tough to come by for some of you. Believe it or not, Jeigermeister is a perfect substitute. Serve it chilled in a fluted liquor glass. Next we have an assortment of dried aged cheeses and olives. Maybe a plate with extra virgin olive oil and rosemary served with some sliced italian bread to dip.

On to the prima piata. First the stuffing. First, clean the shrimp and dice into small pieces. Next, in a frying pan, brown thinly sliced garlic cloves (the amount of garlic you use is a personal decision) in some olive oil. Next add the diced shrimp and some chopped scallions. When the shrimp are almost completely cooked, add enough bread crumps to completely cover the shrimp. You may need to add another splash of olive oil. As soon as the breadcrumbs are brown, turn it off and put it all in a bowl.

Next, the calamari. These need to be whole calamari, not the pre-sliced ones. Rinse the calamari and cut the legs off. Bring a pot of water to boil and boil the calamari for just a minute. They should feel firmer. Drain them and then stuff them with the shrimp and the bread crumbs. Once they are stuffed, I prefer to grill them. You can put them in a small pan in the oven or in the broiler if don't have access to a grill. If you are going to grill, heat the grill up and grill them on a low flame. With calamari, you basically cook them until their white and firm. This should be pretty quick. On the grill, they should get seared with the grill surface but don't let them get blackened on the ends. Next in a sauce pan, reduce some balsamic vinegar. Put some arugula and a couple of calamari on each dish, then drizzle the balsamic reduction over them and serve with a lemon wedge on the side.

I gotta refill my coffee cup. The flounder will be on the next post.

I'm duly fuckin impressed!!!1
I don't drink out of a fluted glass, usually from a can.


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BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
We aren't all spoiled rich kids. You may not be either but that bullshit sounds like it is coming from some ass born with a silver spoon in his moth and was never hungry. I on the other hand grew up in a small town housing project.
I appreciate the fact that my mom worked two waitress jobs so she could afford to fix meatloaf.

Bzzz. That answer is wrong. I grew up in a poor dangerous inner city environment. A couple of pounds of chop meat costs the same amount of money whether you are going to make meatloaf, meat balls, or stuffed peppers. My grandmother could never understand how people could starve since (at the time anyway) 20 cents worth of pasta could feed a family.

Just this weekend we bought 6 bushels of tomatos for $60 and made a years worth of sauce.

For as shitty as it was growing up, there was always a spread on the table.


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charley wrote:
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
We aren't all spoiled rich kids. You may not be either but that bullshit sounds like it is coming from some ass born with a silver spoon in his moth and was never hungry. I on the other hand grew up in a small town housing project.
I appreciate the fact that my mom worked two waitress jobs so she could afford to fix meatloaf.

Completely unnecessary.


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jgloporto wrote:
charley wrote:

BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
We aren't all spoiled rich kids. You may not be either but that bullshit sounds like it is coming from some ass born with a silver spoon in his moth and was never hungry. I on the other hand grew up in a small town housing project.
I appreciate the fact that my mom worked two waitress jobs so she could afford to fix meatloaf.

Bzzz. That answer is wrong. I grew up in a poor dangerous inner city environment. A couple of pounds of chop meat costs the same amount of money whether you are going to make meatloaf, meat balls, or stuffed peppers. My grandmother could never understand how people could starve since (at the time anyway) 20 cents worth of pasta could feed a family.

Just this weekend we bought 6 bushels of tomatos for $60 and made a years worth of sauce.

For as shitty as it was growing up, there was always a spread on the table.

Hell yeah, and there's a good deal of satisfaction in making it yourself.

Last weekend I canned (jarred) half a lug of peaches, last month I froze 16 quarts of sweet corn....16 quarts!!! I'll be so sick of corn before that's all gone. Two things I'm pissed I didn't get around to making myself this year are dill pickles and moonshine (I guess there's still time for one of those).

Is your sauce recipe a family secret? I'm interested.

d.


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dlintz wrote:
jgloporto wrote:
charley wrote:

BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
We aren't all spoiled rich kids. You may not be either but that bullshit sounds like it is coming from some ass born with a silver spoon in his moth and was never hungry. I on the other hand grew up in a small town housing project.
I appreciate the fact that my mom worked two waitress jobs so she could afford to fix meatloaf.

Bzzz. That answer is wrong. I grew up in a poor dangerous inner city environment. A couple of pounds of chop meat costs the same amount of money whether you are going to make meatloaf, meat balls, or stuffed peppers. My grandmother could never understand how people could starve since (at the time anyway) 20 cents worth of pasta could feed a family.

Just this weekend we bought 6 bushels of tomatos for $60 and made a years worth of sauce.

For as shitty as it was growing up, there was always a spread on the table.

Hell yeah, and there's a good deal of satisfaction in making it yourself.

Last weekend I canned (jarred) half a lug of peaches, last month I froze 16 quarts of sweet corn....16 quarts!!! I'll be so sick of corn before that's all gone. Two things I'm pissed I didn't get around to making myself this year are dill pickles and moonshine (I guess there's still time for one of those).

Is your sauce recipe a family secret? I'm interested.

d.
Meatloaf could be a spread. At least a decent meal.


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Roasted Chicken

This is super easy, yummy, and has eye appeal. And you can make soup out of the leftover

Sounds great!! I'll defintely try this, and the dehydating the leftovers is a great Idea.


JGloporto - sounds good man, sometime when I have Time I'll that a go.

Ben


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Is your sauce recipe a family secret? I'm interested.

d.

Nah. No secret. Just back breaking labor. We usually make the sauce so that you can pour it into a pot and season it or add to it depending on what your making. Here's the recipe:

Start with 6 bushels of tomatos

Clean and quarter a few thousand tomatos making sure to cut off the white part where the stem was. If you miss one, your grandmother will hit you with a wooden spoon so big that only Thor could have used it.

Fill a few dozen giant pots with the raw tomatos, add enough water so that its filled to within an inch of the top (but pack those pots with tomatos.).

Boil the tomatos until you have a stew like consistency. You may need to periodically add more water. If you don't, you get the spoon again plus a resounding "Cornuto!"

Burn the shit out of you fingers laddeling that stew through a grinder. Each pot will probably have to be run through the grinder twice. Have your grandmother standing by to yell at you that you're not grinding fast enough.

When that's done, add two diced onions, a handful of fresh basil and a couple of whole cloves of garlic and simmer the sauce for about an hour. Have your grandmother burn your tongue and lips a few times taste testing the sauce while she says "Itsa beautiful, right?" You then yell "Mincchia!!!!" to which your grandmother replies "Disgratziato!!!" If the sauce is too bitter (which is just a function of the tomatos) add a table spoon of sugar. Let it simmer for a few minutes and try it again. If it's still bitter, add another tablespoon of sugar and keep doing that until it tastes "justa right."

Next boil mason jars for about two or three minutes so they get really hot and then burn the shit out of your hands lining up the mason jars.

Next burn the shit out of your hands by laddling the sauce into mason jars and put on heat seal lids (those two piece lids). You might burn your hands a little putting the lids on. Then feel shame when your grandmother is able to further tighten the lids without even a wince from the scorching burning pain.

Line up all of the jars on a table and cover them with a blanket so they heat seal.

Finally, ice hands and drink three or four bottles of wine until the burning and throbbing stops.

This recipe should yield about 200 bottles of sauce. It should take about 12 hours from start to finish. You can break in the middle for some fresh eggplant or some merluzza with lemon and olive oil and a can of luke warm Pathmark brand "Cola."

Next week we make the wine. That's the family secret and even I don't know what the secret recipe is (though I suspect its terpentine!)


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Your Grandmother sounds like my Armenian aunt... happiest when we're all helping her embalm a bucket of homegrown olives in spicy brine, or making hundreds of little meatballs out of pine nuts and complicated spiced ground beef.... yum

Hey can we go back a couple days (sry it was a busy weekend) I have a burning question about the escarole & white bean soup. Roast a whole onion.... you mean roast it whole? Or a whole onion, chopped up? Please advise.... Its fall- soup & stew season

Also I'll throw my two cents in about the whole meatloaf discussion:
Not a big meatloaf fan. But once I had meatloaf made from elk meat. It was goooooood.


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You then yell "Mincchia!!!!" to which your grandmother replies "Disgratziato!!!"

That brought tears to my eyes... I really need to avoid this site during school hours.


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jgloporto wrote:
maww wrote:
Will you come to my house and cook for me?

I'll be in RMNP in the spring. If you're anywhere near the Front Range, I could be convinced. I could even drag some of the good stuff from here with my gear. Bread would be a minimum. None of this would be right without good bread.

What are you offering in return? I cook for belays, booze, or a bed.

I'm in Denver so allow me to convince you:::

I'm good for all of three! I'll even throw in some bread. ;)

'K the bed may have to be a couch but I can definitely do the belay and booze. Woo woo. I'm a sucker for a good meal. There isn't much I won't do for good food...especially when I don't have to cook any of it.

Well if that's the case, a little more convincing and I'll pull out all the stops.

Hmmph..not accustomed to so much convincing from my end. Usually my cuteness is enough to get most anything. Tongue


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maww wrote:
jgloporto wrote:
maww wrote:
jgloporto wrote:
maww wrote:
Will you come to my house and cook for me?

I'll be in RMNP in the spring. If you're anywhere near the Front Range, I could be convinced. I could even drag some of the good stuff from here with my gear. Bread would be a minimum. None of this would be right without good bread.

What are you offering in return? I cook for belays, booze, or a bed.

I'm in Denver so allow me to convince you:::

I'm good for all of three! I'll even throw in some bread. ;)

'K the bed may have to be a couch but I can definitely do the belay and booze. Woo woo. I'm a sucker for a good meal. There isn't much I won't do for good food...especially when I don't have to cook any of it.

Well if that's the case, a little more convincing and I'll pull out all the stops.

Hmmph..not accustomed to so much convincing from my end. Usually my cuteness is enough to get most anything. Tongue

I am pretty sure the standard rc.com response goes something like this:

WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICTURES!


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Is your sauce recipe a family secret? I'm interested.

d.

Nah. No secret. Just back breaking labor. We usually make the sauce so that you can pour it into a pot and season it or add to it depending on what your making. Here's the recipe:

Start with 6 bushels of tomatos

Clean and quarter a few thousand tomatos making sure to cut off the white part where the stem was. If you miss one, your grandmother will hit you with a wooden spoon so big that only Thor could have used it.

Fill a few dozen giant pots with the raw tomatos, add enough water so that its filled to within an inch of the top (but pack those pots with tomatos.).

Boil the tomatos until you have a stew like consistency. You may need to periodically add more water. If you don't, you get the spoon again plus a resounding "Cornuto!"

Burn the shit out of you fingers laddeling that stew through a grinder. Each pot will probably have to be run through the grinder twice. Have your grandmother standing by to yell at you that you're not grinding fast enough.

When that's done, add two diced onions, a handful of fresh basil and a couple of whole cloves of garlic and simmer the sauce for about an hour. Have your grandmother burn your tongue and lips a few times taste testing the sauce while she says "Itsa beautiful, right?" You then yell "Mincchia!!!!" to which your grandmother replies "Disgratziato!!!" If the sauce is too bitter (which is just a function of the tomatos) add a table spoon of sugar. Let it simmer for a few minutes and try it again. If it's still bitter, add another tablespoon of sugar and keep doing that until it tastes "justa right."

Next boil mason jars for about two or three minutes so they get really hot and then burn the shit out of your hands lining up the mason jars.

Next burn the shit out of your hands by laddling the sauce into mason jars and put on heat seal lids (those two piece lids). You might burn your hands a little putting the lids on. Then feel shame when your grandmother is able to further tighten the lids without even a wince from the scorching burning pain.

Line up all of the jars on a table and cover them with a blanket so they heat seal.

Finally, ice hands and drink three or four bottles of wine until the burning and throbbing stops.

This recipe should yield about 200 bottles of sauce. It should take about 12 hours from start to finish. You can break in the middle for some fresh eggplant or some merluzza with lemon and olive oil and a can of luke warm Pathmark brand "Cola."

Next week we make the wine. That's the family secret and even I don't know what the secret recipe is (though I suspect its terpentine!)

hahaha I was just thinking the other day how I should can a bunch of spaghetti sauce maybe Ill actually do it this weekend...


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maww wrote:
jgloporto wrote:
maww wrote:
jgloporto wrote:
maww wrote:
Will you come to my house and cook for me?

I'll be in RMNP in the spring. If you're anywhere near the Front Range, I could be convinced. I could even drag some of the good stuff from here with my gear. Bread would be a minimum. None of this would be right without good bread.

What are you offering in return? I cook for belays, booze, or a bed.

I'm in Denver so allow me to convince you:::

I'm good for all of three! I'll even throw in some bread. ;)

'K the bed may have to be a couch but I can definitely do the belay and booze. Woo woo. I'm a sucker for a good meal. There isn't much I won't do for good food...especially when I don't have to cook any of it.

Well if that's the case, a little more convincing and I'll pull out all the stops.

Hmmph..not accustomed to so much convincing from my end. Usually my cuteness is enough to get most anything. Tongue

I am pretty sure the standard rc.com response goes something like this:

WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICTURES!

If you think for one hot minute that I'm going to post my photos on this crazy **s site you are out of your ever-lovin' mind.

However feel free to check out my blog: mawwshome.blogspot.com.

There may even be a picture of the infamous Red Dress on there. That should be plenty to convince you. It has worked on hundreds of men.


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Hey can we go back a couple days (sry it was a busy weekend) I have a burning question about the escarole & white bean soup. Roast a whole onion.... you mean roast it whole? Or a whole onion, chopped up? Please advise.... Its fall- soup & stew season

It's a chopped onion which is sauteed in the olive oil with everything else. If you are going to make this soup as a meal, I suggest trying it with the lentils.

Rinse the the dried lentils, put em in a pot with water and once it comes to a boil, turn the flame down and let it simmer for about an hour.

Saute the chopped onion, garlic and parsley in olive oil. Add the cleaned cut escarole leaves. When that's done, empty the contents of the pan into the lentils.

That's the basic recipe and nothing proprietary about it. I personally like to fry the thin italian sausuge, then cut it into pieces (cut it lengthways first) and then add the sausage to the soup.


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Well lentils aren't my favorite bean (legume?) but I'll trust you on this. Bonus points for the seductive delay between recipe courses... that wasn't lost on me Wink


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Well lentils aren't my favorite bean (legume?) but I'll trust you on this. Bonus points for the seductive delay between recipe courses... that wasn't lost on me Wink

Seductive is my middle name.Wink








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Is your sauce recipe a family secret? I'm interested.

d.

Nah. No secret. Just back breaking labor. We usually make the sauce so that you can pour it into a pot and season it or add to it depending on what your making. Here's the recipe:

Start with 6 bushels of tomatos

Clean and quarter a few thousand tomatos making sure to cut off the white part where the stem was. If you miss one, your grandmother will hit you with a wooden spoon so big that only Thor could have used it.

Fill a few dozen giant pots with the raw tomatos, add enough water so that its filled to within an inch of the top (but pack those pots with tomatos.).

Boil the tomatos until you have a stew like consistency. You may need to periodically add more water. If you don't, you get the spoon again plus a resounding "Cornuto!"

Burn the shit out of you fingers laddeling that stew through a grinder. Each pot will probably have to be run through the grinder twice. Have your grandmother standing by to yell at you that you're not grinding fast enough.

When that's done, add two diced onions, a handful of fresh basil and a couple of whole cloves of garlic and simmer the sauce for about an hour. Have your grandmother burn your tongue and lips a few times taste testing the sauce while she says "Itsa beautiful, right?" You then yell "Mincchia!!!!" to which your grandmother replies "Disgratziato!!!" If the sauce is too bitter (which is just a function of the tomatos) add a table spoon of sugar. Let it simmer for a few minutes and try it again. If it's still bitter, add another tablespoon of sugar and keep doing that until it tastes "justa right."

Next boil mason jars for about two or three minutes so they get really hot and then burn the shit out of your hands lining up the mason jars.

Next burn the shit out of your hands by laddling the sauce into mason jars and put on heat seal lids (those two piece lids). You might burn your hands a little putting the lids on. Then feel shame when your grandmother is able to further tighten the lids without even a wince from the scorching burning pain.

Line up all of the jars on a table and cover them with a blanket so they heat seal.

Finally, ice hands and drink three or four bottles of wine until the burning and throbbing stops.

This recipe should yield about 200 bottles of sauce. It should take about 12 hours from start to finish. You can break in the middle for some fresh eggplant or some merluzza with lemon and olive oil and a can of luke warm Pathmark brand "Cola."

Next week we make the wine. That's the family secret and even I don't know what the secret recipe is (though I suspect its terpentine!)

Oh man....

you just threw me into a time machine...I was there when my grandma (she died at 99, almost in front of me ) used to do "passata di pomodori" at our house-by the sea...( rent) or whereever she could find a backyard or a balcony big enough for her HUGE boiling pot and hundreds of glass bottles.

I usually washed the bottles with my brother and spent days in that tomato mess...
We treasured that tomato sauce for months after that summer ritual. Me, my relatives, neighbors...friends...


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We treasured that tomato sauce for months after that summer ritual. Me, my relatives, neighbors...friends...

Yeah. I couldn't do it one year. I was travelling or something and i actually missed it. It's back breaking and you sweat over a pot for a day or more, but I always do look forward to it. For as much as she hits us with the cuccaio she always makes us the biscotti with the fresh mandorle as a reward. Oh and five dollars. I'm thirty years old and she still slips me a five dollar bill and then says "vai nella compagna della madonna."

Oh man, i hope Mary isn't following me around everywhere or I'm screwed.


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Oh man, i hope Mary isn't following me around everywhere or I'm screwed.


Never fails to crack me up this guy.

Your granny is still alive...;) Salute!


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jgloporto wrote:
Oh man, i hope Mary isn't following me around everywhere or I'm screwed.


Never fails to crack me up this guy.

Your granny is still alive...;) Salute!

Ah si, la vecchiai ancora viva. 89 years old though every year on her birthday when you say buon compleanno she says "eh. Un anno piu vicino a morte.". Now that's Sicilian!


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