FINE, do it YOUR WAY then HOSS.

good LUCK.

DMT

once I have prepared the anchors. I would attach my harness with a figure 8 and then pass the other end of the rope through the O ring and then loop the other part of the rope to my locking carabiner and my ATC device for belaying. So the principle is that once I get down. I can retreive my rope and continue my way only leaving behind approx 5$ worth of equipment being the Tubular webbing and the O ring.

Not very comprehensive are we.

Not very comprehensive are we.

LET ME RE- ASK the QUESTION ... ( DINGUS ... your name says it.. stay clear of replying... )

IF I WANT TO RAPPELL and I want to have My rope back once Im at the bottom. What would be the SETUP.

LET ME RE- ASK the QUESTION ... ( DINGUS ... your name says it.. stay clear of replying... )

IF I WANT TO RAPPELL and I want to have My rope back once Im at the bottom. What would be the SETUP.

LET ME RE- ASK the QUESTION ... ( DINGUS ... your name says it.. stay clear of replying... )

IF I WANT TO RAPPELL and I want to have My rope back once Im at the bottom. What would be the SETUP.

What I was gonna do is this: use a couple of trees as anchors to attach tubular webbing to them and have an O RING passing through the webbing. ( by the way I use O rings because I am not recuperating the Tubular weebbing and the rings. this Way Im not leaving behind some expensive carabiners.

DIngus... you're a real tard....

Yep... maybe But I prefer knwoing how to read and look further than the tip of my nose than rappelling... makes me feel a tad smarter than you ..... Dingo

Poor loosers.

Dingus has forgotten more than you are likely to ever know.
Quit being a tard - he's well respected around these parts.

Take the advice, and quit being tosser or it'll be the last piece of advice you get from any of us...

I'm guessing he dosn't know what a tosser is.

Its related to a 'looser' isn't it?

DMT

This was a fun day today.. work went by fast talking to you salad tossers... hope you had fun on my count masturbators...


Hope to talk to you soon.


Ill text you everytime I got some retarded questions Dingo ;)


I appreciated the audience.



MAngez toute de la marde mes coliss.

I have a pretty lucrative job.

Im sorry but I think you are mistaken. I am NOT referring to FIXED rope. Thats why I am requesting some info. the link you sumitted is for FIXED ROPES

I know I will be rappelling but I am asking this questiion because once I am at the bottom I want my rope back.

TU fica calado ... stapor... eu sei falar muito mais linguas do que tu pensas... eu nao perde tempo para teclar com tudos os acentos. eu falo 4 linguas e escreve tres. entao vai te fuder.

FINE, do it YOUR WAY then HOSS.

good LUCK.

DMT

Prepare the rope for a single rope rappel. Fix one end of the rope to the rappel anchors by tieing a double figure 8 knot into the carabiners at the end of the equalized anchors. Make sure the rope doesn't go over any sharp edges and that the other end of the rope makes it to the ground.

I wonder where you got that material... maybe after you thought about that whole ngight you spent licking assholes and getting lombardi slapped.


Anyways. I have a pretty lucrative job.. something you 5' balding pedophile looking looser would be drulling over.


So long hippies.

Good one.

But I doubt it.

Good one.

But I doubt it.

Poor loosers.

huh?

I feel a little bit dumber for reading this thread.

ps- you're gonna die

This was a fun day today.. work went by fast talking to you salad tossers... hope you had fun on my count masturbators...


Hope to talk to you soon.


Ill text you everytime I got some retarded questions Dingo ;)


I appreciated the audience.



MAngez toute de la marde mes coliss.

I picked one hell of a day to go climbing.

I'm really upset I missed this one.

dj_orka, I'll be in front of the computer tomorrow. Will you please come back, I think you and I can have the best of times.

Dingus and others were trying to tell you.

Put rope through ring to halfway point.
Put both strands of rope into ATC
Rappel.
Pull rope.

Why is running both sides of rope through the ATC better than tying one end to harness?

If you are running both ends through the ATC, wouldn't dropping one rope be enough to fall?

And how would you do a backup (such as using a Prussic in your guide hand)?

Why has no one welcomed this fella to rc.com?

I too am missing something obvious since I've never done this with a line that wasn't fixed.

Why is running both sides of rope through the ATC better than tying one end to harness?

If you are running both ends through the ATC, wouldn't dropping one rope be enough to fall? And how would you do a backup (such as using a Prussic in your guide hand)?

If only rc.com had an automatic self-destruct for threads when things got out of hand...

If only rc.com had an automatic self-destruct for threads when things got out of hand...

If only rc.com had an automatic self-destruct for threads when things got out of hand...

Well, this is the beginner forum. If you don't want to read stupid questions, why are you here anyway?

The concept of anchors wearing out is simply not obvious to a newbie. If you're a new climber you don't really think of having to protect steel components from rope.

Thanks to those who have patiently pointed this out in this and other threads.

Voce ainda e um idiota. O seu portugues tem tantos erros quanto o seu ingles. Qual e a vantagem de falar 4 linguas diferentes, mas cometer erros em todas?

Esse pessoal tentou te ajudar, mas voce decidiu ser um cusao. Vai embora daqui se voce nao quer a ajuda que eles te deram. E para de escrever em portugues que voce esta simplesmente se envergonhando mais ainda. A gente nao precisa de mais prove de quao burro voce e.

STFU noob!

...or...

Cala a boca, besta!

Well, this is the beginner forum. If you don't want to read stupid questions, why are you here anyway?

The concept of anchors wearing out is simply not obvious to a newbie. If you're a new climber you don't really think of having to protect steel components from rope.

Thanks to those who have patiently pointed this out in this and other threads.

If you are running both ends through the ATC, wouldn't dropping one rope be enough to fall?

And how would you do a backup (such as using a Prussic in your guide hand)?

Nothing wrong with your question, though I get the impression you already knew the answer and were asking rhetorically.

Asking is fine, but demanding an answer in a certain format, and being an asshole in the process... well, that wasn't you.

Now the expectation of getting a useful answer to 'how do I rappel' on a climbing forum is laughable really.

There are climbing bok authors who make money taking the time and energy to detail this answer. I suggest reviewing thoae materials and then asking refined questions.

Doing this will demonstrate you're more than just a troll, like the OP.

DMT

C'mon. We all know you two are one and the same...

Yes.


Well, you could do a backup, such as using a prusik in your guide hand.

Jay

Sorry, but I had no clue as to the answer. When I say I'm new, I mean I just learned that the American Death Triangle was a bad thing a few weeks ago.

Intuitively, it would seem to be better to just have one rope to trust your weight to than two. And in the books I've read, they seem to discourage double rope systems if you're a beginner, so I was coming from that perspective.

Of course, I didn't see the rope going through the anchor as any different than it going through the ATC, which was my mistake.

Also, this isn't laziness. I've already gone through most of "Freedom of the Hills" and a couple of other beginner books, and am waiting on Long's anchor book in the mail. Like many other newbies the missing link for me is how to think a certain way, not in how to research.

Well, this is the beginner forum. If you don't want to read stupid questions, why are you here anyway?

The concept of anchors wearing out is simply not obvious to a newbie. If you're a new climber you don't really think of having to protect steel components from rope.

Thanks to those who have patiently pointed this out in this and other threads.

Freedom of the Hills doesn't detail how to rappel?

DMT

If I have the option of body belaying down a 40 foot cliff, or walking 5 miles down in the dark, FoH can't tell me the correct answer.

What an experienced climber should do is read through the last 5 years of amazingly dumb questions on the Internet, and write some sort of book:

"How to not get yourself killed climbing"

Keep it to about 150 pages, and just cover the most common beginner mistakes. Nothing about techniques or what the other books cover. They would make a freaking mint.

Jesus Christ, when you google "rappelling," this is one of the first images that shows up...(FWIW, this is the completely fucking retarded way).

[image]http://sites.younglife.org/sites/londoninternationalschools/Home%20Page/Rappelling%20at%20Camp.jpg[/image]

Intuitively, it would seem to be better to just have one rope to trust your weight to than two. And in the books I've read, they seem to discourage double rope systems if you're a beginner, so I was coming from that perspective. Of course, I didn't see the rope going through the anchor as any different than it going through the ATC, which was my mistake.

So the name didn't give away any clues?

ha!

how does one say PWNED! in Portuguese?

Oh, and as for the original poster, are you THE dj_orka? The Killah Wh4le? I saw you spinning madfat techno beats at Sea World with mc_narwhal! That was a great show, man! I would throw you a fish any day!

So the name didn't give away any clues?

Actually, it's not retarded.
Those are two separate ropes (the ropes are two different colors). The kid is rapelling off of one rope, and the other rope is tied to him, with someone belaying him down, as a back-up. It's a common practice for first time rapellers at places that are super anal about safety.

BTW, I wish DJ orka would come back, he was entertaining...

I dont think so ... I think you like that word because you like to get your salad TOssed :)

I wonder where you got that material... maybe after you thought about that whole ngight you spent licking assholes and getting lombardi slapped.


Anyways. I have a pretty lucrative job.. something you 5' balding pedophile looking looser would be drulling over.


So long hippies.

Yes, the problem is too much information. It's great at teaching the mechanics, but can't really teach you judgement.

For example, I know the mechanics of how to do a body belay by wrapping the rope around the torso, but I have no clue as to how desperate you have to be to actually use it. If I have the option of body belaying down a 40 foot cliff, or walking 5 miles down in the dark, FoH can't tell me the correct answer.

I have Accidents in NA Mountaineering 2008 on it's way in too, hopefully that will get me going from the other angle - of what not to do.

What an experienced climber should do is read through the last 5 years of amazingly dumb questions on the Internet, and write some sort of book:

"How to not get yourself killed climbing"

http://sites.younglife.org/sites/londoninternationalschools/Home%20Page/Rappelling%20at%20Camp.jpg[/image]

Sorry, I'm just amazed that anyone would even ask this question and then mention a prussic in the same paragraph. It doesn't compute - you know what a prussic is but don't know how to rap?

Holy crap people, this is the beginners forum. Riding zchandran kinda hard considering.

And you know how to use it and can't spell it correctly for the beginner!!

Holy crap people, this is the beginners forum. Riding zchandran kinda hard considering.

The point needs to be driven home that rc.com is not an appropriate place to learn how to rappel. That's what mentors, professional guides, and books (coupled with common sense and a healthy dose of caution) are for.

Meh, I got it right the second post. If at first you don't succeed...

People can and do learn judgement from books / web sites all the time.

No way. You can gain knowledge, but that's just not the same as judgment. The best you can do is learn "best practices". But that will never take the place of actually being able to think for yourself. Not even close.

GO

No way. You can gain knowledge, but that's just not the same as judgment. The best you can do is learn "best practices". But that will never take the place of actually being able to think for yourself. Not even close.

GO