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Stormeh
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So, I finally finished my home woody and thought I would link to the pics on my blog to see what you guys thought.
It's seriously one of the greatest things in the world to be able to walk out to your garage and do some climbing! So awesome.
http://occlimb.com/?tag=woody
EDIT: As Patmay posted, yes, I know I overdid the tnuts. Haha. If I had to do it over again I would not do nearly so many.
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patmay81
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thats a lot of fricken tnuts. screw on holds are great for home walls, especially down low, foot jib type holds.
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Dynosoarus
Apr 28, 2010, 12:00 AM
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It looks freakin professional
Mine is just holes drilled on the underside of a stairs
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bennydh
Apr 28, 2010, 12:00 AM
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jeez, how long did all that nutting take. 
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Stormeh
Apr 28, 2010, 12:08 AM
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It took a long freakin time, but with 2 other peeps helping me it wasn't so bad. 
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Apr 28, 2010, 12:09 AM
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Stormeh wrote: EDIT: As Patmay posted, yes, I know I overdid the tnuts, lol. If I had to do it over again I would not do nearly so many.
As a setter myself I love having options when it comes to t-nuts, so it may have sucked doing but i think it will be worth it when you are setting.
Nice job on the wall.
o and "the best woody is the one that gets used" you only get strong better if you use it.
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Stormeh
Apr 28, 2010, 12:18 AM
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Yeah, there have been a few times when setting already when I was glad to have the extra options. As a small home woody, I figured more was better than less for the longevity of me being entertained by the walls.
So far, I've been using it 2-3 times / week, and seeing some good gains in strength and technique.
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deermailman
Apr 28, 2010, 1:40 AM
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about what did it cost to put up?
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cornstateclimber
Apr 28, 2010, 2:22 AM
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i had my own home woodies a while back! i loved them! a 20' wall outside attatched to a giant oak tree! awsome! shade to climb in, and could climb further up into the tree and enjoy views! and i had a bouldering cave in my garage! if i could do it all again the one thing i would change would be the amount of t-nuts! i didnt have near enough so my options of moving holds was limited! the more the merrier i say!
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cornstateclimber
Apr 28, 2010, 2:23 AM
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also a good paintjob spices them up! add some sand to the paint or just splurge for the metouilious wall paint. it ads a whole other experience top the home wall
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milesenoell
Apr 28, 2010, 2:29 AM
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That is I nice looking bit of carpentry. Makes me wish I had a garage.
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Stormeh
Apr 28, 2010, 6:14 PM
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deermailman wrote: about what did it cost to put up?
With all the holds and the 4 mad rock mad pads, about $2k.
cornstateclimber wrote: i had my own home woodies a while back! i loved them! a 20' wall outside attatched to a giant oak tree! awsome! shade to climb in, and could climb further up into the tree and enjoy views! and i had a bouldering cave in my garage! if i could do it all again the one thing i would change would be the amount of t-nuts! i didnt have near enough so my options of moving holds was limited! the more the merrier i say!
Well, as you can see, I definitely have no shortage of tnuts! About 1100 in all, lol.
cornstateclimber wrote: also a good paintjob spices them up! add some sand to the paint or just splurge for the metouilious wall paint. it ads a whole other experience top the home wall
Yes, it will likely get painted some day after the plywood gets kicked to hell and looks like shit. =)
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jbk641
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I agree...Its best to front the work and money up front instead of regretting and not having options for putting holds somewhere....I built one too and Im just now beginning to not see .50 cent peices in every hole where i put a tnut...Now they are just holes to me:)
I made mine where i would not have access to the back so i used the 3 screw tnuts from rockwerx..I hope they stay put!
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Jbk, I recommend you invest in a good tap. Anytime you install a hold start slowly and carefully. If you encounter any unusual resistance, back the hold out, tap the t-nut gently and try again. Even the screw in t-nuts will rip out, typically when you are trying to get a hold back out. Using some sort of lubricant (anti-seize or grease) can help prevent corrosion and stuck holds. Most people don't waste the time, though it can be a big help on outdoor walls.
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jbk641
May 4, 2010, 4:19 PM
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Ive always wondered about lubricating the bolts but I dont want them loosening up on their own..I have to retighten them about every 2 weeks as it is for maintenance..not a lot but enough to know the climate is affected the tightness..
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May 9, 2010, 1:18 PM
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i'm using an adhesive (metal to wood) with my t-nuts. a pain to put on, but i'm hoping it will reduce spinning in the long run! i think i got a system figured out after just doing 2 sheets yesterday! only 10 more sheets to go today!!
i'll post some pics when i'm done!
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gowser wrote: i'm using an adhesive (metal to wood) with my t-nuts. a pain to put on, but i'm hoping it will reduce spinning in the long run! i think i got a system figured out after just doing 2 sheets yesterday! only 10 more sheets to go today!! i'll post some pics when i'm done!
Did you test the removal process just in case you need to replace a t-nut? It is completely possible to have a home wall and never need to replace a t-nut; but you never know. Personally I would want to know that I could if needed swap one out without removing too much wood with it. 
Other than that great idea, a bit labor intensive, but not much more than the screw ins. What kind of wood are you using? You might be able to score around the t-nut through the top ply to remove a nut if he need ever arises.
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jbk641
May 10, 2010, 5:53 PM
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95% of all of my tnuts are in boards that arent coming down till the house comes down..I was not able to construct it in a way that would allow for ease of changing them out...So,,,,,,,the screw in tnuts were the ones I went with..So far a still have not had one spin or pull out..I have crossthreaded one and there is a bolt in it to remind me not to ever use it...I thought to myself that im doing way to much work putting in tnuts but I think its safty first, then its convenience second...When i start blowing out tnuts I start covering them up with volumes:)
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Stormeh
May 10, 2010, 6:10 PM
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gowser wrote: i'm using an adhesive (metal to wood) with my t-nuts. a pain to put on, but i'm hoping it will reduce spinning in the long run! i think i got a system figured out after just doing 2 sheets yesterday! only 10 more sheets to go today!! i'll post some pics when i'm done!
I actually used epoxy on each one of the 1100 tnuts. With a 3 man working team, it goes pretty quickly. One guy would sit on the front of the panel and be on epoxy duty, mixing it and applying it to the tnuts. Then, two guys would be on the back side of the panel and would grab the epoxied tnuts and pull them into the wall with a wrench and block of wood. I followed the method described on Three Ball Climbing's website for the proper installation of pronged tnuts.
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getsomeethics
May 10, 2010, 10:42 PM
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This is phase one of my woody. have not decided on phase 2 yet, but i am leaning towards a 12 foot roof.
i used about 70 t-nuts per sheet and the kick board at the bottom has only screw on holds.
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milesenoell
May 10, 2010, 10:49 PM
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gowser wrote: i'm using an adhesive (metal to wood) with my t-nuts. a pain to put on, but i'm hoping it will reduce spinning in the long run! i think i got a system figured out after just doing 2 sheets yesterday! only 10 more sheets to go today!! i'll post some pics when i'm done!
12 sheets of ply?! that is going to one big ass wall! Nice.
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May 11, 2010, 3:01 PM
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getsomeethics wrote: [image]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9JcAdobytCc/S-iJj2DjdXI/AAAAAAAAFsQ/QH3oyds99hI/s400/photo%202.jpg[/image] [image]http://lh6.ggpht.com/_9JcAdobytCc/S-iJjjEX7mI/AAAAAAAAFsM/KLV8Yd833b4/s400/photo.jpg[/image] This is phase one of my woody. have not decided on phase 2 yet, but i am leaning towards a 12 foot roof. i used about 70 t-nuts per sheet and the kick board at the bottom has only screw on holds.
You obviously don't smear much?
Nice wall!
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getsomeethics
May 11, 2010, 11:23 PM
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When i got the plans for it, it did not look that steep. then i built the first truss and stood it up!
After a few weeks i got used to it, and now it is not that bad. it could also be that i have gotten a little more fit and some of the holds are a bigger too.
not a lot of smearing, good heel hooking though and lots of body tension.
working on the plans for phase 2.....
the wall on the right is the existing part in my post above.
the existing wall is to the left in this pic.
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May 26, 2010, 10:18 PM
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Built it over a month during the bliizzard of '10. Lots of low holds for wife...a semi cripple and overweight. Great exercise.
Made out of Chinese oak faced ply. It's crap compared to US or Canada ply...but those things are extict!
I'm building a Treadwall outside.
I like to climb the rope too. But it hurts my elbow coming down, so use the holds to go down.
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getsomeethics
May 26, 2010, 10:36 PM
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keepitlow wrote: Made out of Chinese oak faced ply. It's crap compared to US or Canada ply...but those things are extinct!
I used the same stuff here, as it is half the price as regular ply and for a home woody, does not matter if it does not meet Aussie standards. Regular ply is $70/sheet!!
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keepitlow
May 27, 2010, 11:44 AM
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getsomeethics wrote: keepitlow wrote: Made out of Chinese oak faced ply. It's crap compared to US or Canada ply...but those things are extinct! I used the same stuff here, as it is half the price as regular ply and for a home woody, does not matter if it does not meet Aussie standards. Regular ply is $70/sheet!!
Over here the China oak ply is $45 a sheet. Non hardwood ply is about $19. If I hit the lotto will build a fun house with indoor gym about 20 feet tall. My wall is 13.3 feet.
Very happy with wall in living room. And all / most of the formaldehyde is pretty much gone now from the China ply!
The reason I don't like China ply is it has voids inside, the glue is low grade and it is only 75% to 80% as strong as the North American ply.
Real nice hardwood they use. But they mix red and white oak, so it stains up differently as we found out too late. No big deal, adds some texture to the visuals.
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Hey really nice gym..I like the pics. I needed a solution to how to brace my 30 degree wall to a finished ceiling and wall. I see you used lag bolts..What size were they? Im thinking of just using 4 inch deck screws...Again,,nice job
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This is the best that I could do with the minimal space that I have in my apartment. It works great and has made my climbing go up a full number grade over the winter.
I call it the Beastmaker 3000, and I think that you can see why...
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Heres a couple of shots of our woody. Just did an addition we added the inside corner and extended our thirty five degree wall. The wall definately helps keep us strong in between outdoor trips.
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jbk641
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Here is a set of volumes I made. I have a few on my wall and ceiling that have opened up quite a few new climbing options...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Climbing-Volume-Holds-Volumes-/130410373423?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5d10612f
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What type of coating would you guys recommend for a strong gritty material
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jbk641 wrote: Hey really nice gym..I like the pics. I needed a solution to how to brace my 30 degree wall to a finished ceiling and wall. I see you used lag bolts..What size were they? Im thinking of just using 4 inch deck screws...Again,,nice job
On my overhang, which is almost completely supported by the ceiling, I just used 2 2x4's, and had 4 adults hang and shake violently on it before I put on the ply:
Many pics of the entire construction process here:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2143844#2143844
The wall, if it's a no load bearing interior wall, is likely just 2x4, which isn't good enough. Better to go to the ground, or a load bearing wall that goes to the outside, as they tend to be 2x6's, and that will hold up.
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For the Canadians out there... your roof is very likely engineered trusses if constructed in the last 40 years or so, so the bottom cords will be only 2X4 unless its a girder, or span over 20'. you Can pick boxes of 100 T-nuts for @$22 at Mountain Equipment Co-op, much cheaper than any hardware store. If you know a cabinet maker though he can probably get them even cheaper than that through his supplier.
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Yeah man the way you guys build down south is the way it was done in the 1800's. Not saying thats good or bad, just different than the rest of the wood-framing world. That being said, the fact there are still plenty of colonial homes around and in good shape may mean our idea of "progress" may not be all that progressive. So theres no confusion, not putting down american tradesmen at all, im very good at what i do, but i consider every american framer ive worked with that has some experience to be better than me, simply because they've always had to do things the "old way". P.S. if anyone knows some place in the western states i can come and work for cash message me. 6yrs framing, 5 years drywalling. sorry im not mexican, but i can speak a little.
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Its a bit tough to explain the ol wall, but I will give er a go. It has three walls. One 45 degree (12' wide X 10') then goes to 22.5 for 5' with an arete on one side. The other wall is a 15 degree (12'X11') and the third is a huge belly (cant give dimensions, way too random. its huge though.
I didnt have any pics on this computer, so here is a link to some pics on FB.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=337803&id=629250385&l=17cb83f514
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http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=54962&id=629250385&l=6588286807
Got a hang board, rock rings, campus board and hit strips (modular - it folds away so it doesnt take up climbing space.). Plus a bunch of random shelving for hold storage when they are not in use.
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Our little slice of heaven in the frozen north. There is a 8' wide 45* on one side, with an arete. A short inside corner, one wall vert, one a slab (kid wall). A long 20ish* wall, a belly, and a vert arete wall to protect the water heater and furnace complete the full circuit. The whole roof is done as well, with a ridge coming down in the middle. This isn't my wall, but a friends that a large group of us climb at a couple times a week.
Oh yes... I can't forget about the slide in the corner.
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