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musicman1586
Dec 6, 2005, 6:33 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: ... if the shoes hurt at the store, but the next size up feels like it would get too big when it stretches, go for the smaller size that hurts, I disagree. My advice to the OP is if the shoe hurts at the store, don't buy it. If the next size up is too big, don't buy that either. Buy a shoe shaped more like your foot. For a beginner, fit is key: it shouldn't have any "dead" spots (where the sole extends beyond your toes. And it shouldn't hurt. Buy painful shoes later when you know why you want 'em.
Yeah, let me clarify that statement for the OP. If the shoe is just flat out painful, don't get it. However, when sizing for a particular model that fits your foot profile, and is known to stretch, if one size feels like it slightly "pinches" I guess you could say, but the next size up feels slightly loose, choose the one that gives a bit of discomfort, because it will stretch to fit your foot well. But yeah, hurt wasn't the right word to use, if they hurt, just forget about it and move on to the next size/model. Hope that makes more sense now.
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musicman1586
Dec 6, 2005, 6:36 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: ... if the shoes hurt at the store, but the next size up feels like it would get too big when it stretches, go for the smaller size that hurts, I disagree. My advice to the OP is if the shoe hurts at the store, don't buy it. If the next size up is too big, don't buy that either. Buy a shoe shaped more like your foot. For a beginner, fit is key: it shouldn't have any "dead" spots (where the sole extends beyond your toes. And it shouldn't hurt. Buy painful shoes later when you know why you want 'em.
Yeah, let me clarify that statement for the OP. If the shoe is just flat out painful, don't get it. However, when sizing for a particular model that fits your foot profile, and is known to stretch, if one size feels like it slightly "pinches" I guess you could say, but the next size up feels slightly loose, choose the one that gives a bit of discomfort, because it will stretch to fit your foot well. But yeah, hurt wasn't the right word to use, if they hurt, just forget about it and move on to the next size/model. Hope that makes more sense now.
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fancyclaps
Dec 6, 2005, 6:57 PM
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Thanks for the advice from everyone. I ended up with a pair of Evolv Defys that are comfortable yet I can still get my toes into little holds. Once I do a couple of different types of climbing in them then I will write a review.
So for any people reading this thread who is looking for a good first pair of shoes, I would reccomend trying on the Evolv Defys and maybe a pair of 5.10 Moccasyms, they were comfy as well. Thanks again!
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brent_e
Dec 6, 2005, 7:39 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: ... if the shoes hurt at the store, but the next size up feels like it would get too big when it stretches, go for the smaller size that hurts, I disagree. My advice to the OP is if the shoe hurts at the store, don't buy it. If the next size up is too big, don't buy that either. Buy a shoe shaped more like your foot. For a beginner, fit is key: it shouldn't have any "dead" spots (where the sole extends beyond your toes. And it shouldn't hurt. Buy painful shoes later when you know why you want 'em.
I think you're wrong here, david. If the shoe fits the shape of your foot but is a little short, I think it's great. If you buy a leather shoe to fit, I think you're screwed; they stretch, they slop, they get replaced. I'm not saying "painful" but "tight." So when they stretch, your foot is flat/slightly curled.
This, IMO, goes for buying a trad shoe and should be modified for sporty/boulder footwear.
Brent
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mheyman
Dec 6, 2005, 8:39 PM
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In reply to: cliffwoman wrote: It really doesn't make that much of a difference, I started out climbing with socks, Exactly. Wearing socks with climbing shoes is announcing that to the world that you are a noob
But not all experienced climbers would agree. Writing this speaks for itself.
Otherwise you've gotten pretty good advice. My preference is for major label all round shoes. La Sportiva Cliffs, 5.10 Spires etc. They are so good these days’ beginners can use them for just about anything. But if you find other brands that seem to fit and work for you that cost less that's great. The main thing is to try them on to see that they really do fit and work for you.
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kletter1mann
Dec 9, 2005, 3:12 AM
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In reply to: ...... i'd suggest actually going to a store and trying them on first, then ordering them online. hope this helped |
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jeapord
Dec 9, 2005, 3:22 AM
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I second the Mad Rock Phoenix. perfect for a beginner shoe. And you can order them the same size as your street shoe.
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