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brent_e
Dec 2, 2010, 4:25 AM
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Edvin wrote: I started ice climbing last winter, went without leashed right away . The number one reason I fail on steeperground(WI5 and higher) is that my hands and forearms get so pumped I simply can't hold my tools anymore. Been thinking about using a leash on one axe to hang from when placing gear. Good idea? Bad idea? Which muscle group fails first for you? the one between my ears that stops me from climbing faster/training more.
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rangerrob
Dec 4, 2010, 6:40 PM
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epoch wrote: shoo wrote: Leashes are like hexes. There are only two types of people who use them: 1) n00bs, 2) old hardmen/women who fucking earned it and don't give a shit about your newfangled technocrap. You forgot one more type who still use leashes. The ones who can't afford to buy $700 worth of tools everytime a new improvement comes out. Leashless climbing is really meant to be used in conjunction with leashless tools. That being said, I started leading all my grade 3 and easy 4 routes with my BD Rages and not using my clipper leash. It's not like I'm going to pump out at that grade. 4+ and 5..I'm still in my clippers baby! I also go sans leash when a route is heavily mixed...like Repentance on Cathedral. I found it easier to not clip the leash and be able to switch hands while in that tight runnel on P2. By the time I have money to buy a set of leashless tools they will go ahead and totally reinvent the ice tool again. Such is the way with me. Yesterdays technology, tomorrow..that's my motto! RR
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vdotmatrix
Dec 21, 2010, 2:19 AM
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leashless of course but if you are climbing where dropping a tool if gonna result in a very bad situation then I would use tethers without a second thought.
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freezerfrost
Dec 28, 2010, 12:37 PM
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Stupid arm as stupid does. Nuff said.
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jeepnphreak
Dec 28, 2010, 4:28 PM
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Leash less but with an umbilical like the BD spinner leash.
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