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Partner angry


Dec 5, 2007, 9:32 PM
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shu wrote:
[image]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/graphics/2005/11/14/hboulder14.jpg[/image]

BTW I like your profile pic helmet-boy.

You mean this one?



I knew I'd use that one again


Jbitz


Dec 5, 2007, 11:48 PM
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Interesting article. I also agree with you deduction.

Here is my Army Story:

I had a Regimental Commander who came from a mechanized infantry unit to our light infantry unit. He thought it was a good idea to enforce wearing the kevlar helmet and body armor in all combat operations. He also backed this up by saying it was Army "policy".

Well, we were down in Central America. It was hot and humid as all hell and each one of us was carrying quite a bit of weight. Guess who ended up with heat stroke? No, it wasn't me.

But, after that the only time we really wore those items was when we were in a vehicle or helicopter.

Moral of Story:

Sometimes, what you think will keep everyone safe can cause an unintended result.

As far as your issue at your gym. I think a benefit verses risk assessment might be helpful. You know the layout of your gym, rules currently in place, and the people who climb there most likely better then anyone else.

From what you have told me about there being no overhanging wall and it just ten feet high the chance of a head injury is very low. The most common injury would likely be a sprained ankle.

Something to think about is if you put helmets on them are they going to take greater risks while climbing and will the people spotting them be paying as much attention. Appeal to his common sense. Then again sometimes people are too stubborn and you can just throw common sense out the window and they only learn the hard way.

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If I always did what I was told to do I would not be here today and if I would have listened I might not have gotten myself into this circumstance in the first place.


asuclimber


Dec 6, 2007, 1:00 AM
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Why not invite him to come climbing, and show him how the whole system works. He's going to fall, and you can demonstrate how spotting eliminates head injury potential and acts as a team building excersize, blah blah blah. I would bet that first hand experience at your wall will be more persuasive than any stats you can dig up. And you guys are supposed to do PT right? No reason for him not to try the sport out himself.


karlbaba


Dec 6, 2007, 7:39 AM
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Civilian climbing gyms don't require helmets do they? and they have to worry about lawsuits.

Why shouldn't the AF emulate the safety procedures developed in places where gym climbing is their livelihood, where this whole indoor climbing game was developed?

Seems like, without any sharp thing to hit, that having a helmet on would actually increase the whiplash effect on your neck by adding weight there.

Peace

Karl


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Dec 6, 2007, 4:23 PM
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angry wrote:
shu wrote:
[image]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/graphics/2005/11/14/hboulder14.jpg[/image]

BTW I like your profile pic helmet-boy.

You mean this one?

[IMG]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/angrywetsuit/japan.jpg[/IMG]

I knew I'd use that one again

You really are my hero please teach me master......
Serious though thats some K1ll3r l33t photoshop sk1llz think you could teach me to be as ghey?

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