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robbovius


Aug 11, 2008, 6:35 PM
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I find it fascinting that in this thread, not only are the best and worst aspects of the titular subject discussed, they are also acted out, to extremes - mostly the worst. you get the lecture, and the practical scenario, as educational tools. both the ecoute', and the repete', as it were.

and the PTFTW


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I didn't read the entire thread but just the first post or two, anyway...

my climbing partner is half my age and an attractive woman by anyone's standard

we operate as a team really well, my wife likes her and like all partnerships, we battle each other from time to time, mainly when one or both of us is in a "mood"

I have witnessed guys hitting on her at the crag and the gym, sometimes i'll say something, sometimes not...i leave up to her and she can handle pretty much anything but, she knows i have her back and she has mine

one thing though, the dynamic is more tricky just due more to other peoples mis-conception of our relationship, we are like most partnerships, we have our inside jokes and crack up at the same stoopid shit

i like climbing with her and she is one of only a few people who I trust to hold my rope and she is a total badass in bar fight

don't let the douche bags ruin you for mixed gender/age partnerships, each half will learn from the other and your life will be richer for it


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Aug 11, 2008, 7:50 PM
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crankinv9 wrote:
I didn't read the entire thread but just the first post or two, anyway...

my climbing partner is half my age and an attractive woman by anyone's standard

we operate as a team really well, my wife likes her and like all partnerships, we battle each other from time to time, mainly when one or both of us is in a "mood"

I have witnessed guys hitting on her at the crag and the gym, sometimes i'll say something, sometimes not...i leave up to her and she can handle pretty much anything but, she knows i have her back and she has mine

one thing though, the dynamic is more tricky just due more to other peoples mis-conception of our relationship, we are like most partnerships, we have our inside jokes and crack up at the same stoopid shit

i like climbing with her and she is one of only a few people who I trust to hold my rope and she is a total badass in bar fight

don't let the douche bags ruin you for mixed gender/age partnerships, each half will learn from the other and your life will be richer for it

I'm not reading that.


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whatever

i was writing to the OP not the db


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I actually really like the fact that this eventually transitioned from male / femal dynamics to "people." Sure, there are differences, and sometimes they're fun to exploit, but in this day and age we're all pretty much responsible for ourselves. Treating seconds and leaders the same regardless of gender is probably something we can all agree on.

Fun is fun and work is work. We've all gotta do our share in order for the work / fun balance to be gained.


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crankinv9 wrote:
my climbing partner is half my age and an attractive woman by anyone's standard

this reply is worthless without pics.


crankinv9


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robbovius wrote:
crankinv9 wrote:
my climbing partner is half my age and an attractive woman by anyone's standard

this reply is worthless without pics.

no way, you saw the part about her being a badass in a fight, right?


Gmburns2000


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crankinv9 wrote:
robbovius wrote:
crankinv9 wrote:
my climbing partner is half my age and an attractive woman by anyone's standard

this reply is worthless without pics.

no way, you saw the part about her being a badass in a fight, right?

Pics would help with that, too. Nothing like an attractive woman who can throw a punch. Let's see it!


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
crankinv9 wrote:
robbovius wrote:
crankinv9 wrote:
my climbing partner is half my age and an attractive woman by anyone's standard

this reply is worthless without pics.

no way, you saw the part about her being a badass in a fight, right?

Pics would help with that, too. Nothing like an attractive woman who can throw a punch. Let's see it!

A fan of "Cops", eh?


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ditto what caughtinside said [In reply to]
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Ditto what caughtinside wrote. I've known many beginner female climbers with no gear, no rope and no experience (5.4 trad, 5.5 sport) who can't lead belay, want to climb with men because of their gear and experience and because of their willingness to climb with a beginner women who can't lead. Issues and problems ensue. Solution: hire a guide, buy gear, rope, learn to lead, carry your own stuff and if you want to climb with a guy, find one that is married/in a committed relationship and not attracted to you, and pay for the meals and drinks as a thank you. That makes you less of a leech. If you're already a strong climber with a full rack and rope you get to pick and choose your partners.

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wonderwoman wrote:

My dating rule on this was always whoever earned more money should pay. A lot of the time, that was me.

I wish all women with high paying jobs thought like that. Most think the man should pay, even if the women earns 10 times what he does.


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"maybe you will fare better in cali than those of us in the flyover states, but good luck finding a male romantic partner by expounding on how guys should never pay for your dinner and hold the door."

Better in Cali, thank goodness. She can expound all she wants here! More power to her! Whip out your platinum card and pay the bill!

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