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zeke_sf
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Dynosoarus wrote: I guess all people who smoke pot are potheads. Then that would mean everyone who drinks beer is a n alcoholic hophead.
fixied. yore welcum.
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dynosore
Feb 27, 2010, 8:09 PM
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The Nazi Germany analogy is totally ridiculous. Any reasonable person would agree that genocide is morally wrong wheras plenty of reasonable people ar on both sides of the pot debate. Jcs if you can't see the difference maybe it's time to lay off the weed ;)
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airscape
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WHAT? Chirs Sharma Disqualified?
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johnwesely
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airscape wrote: WHAT? Chirs Sharma Disqualified?
Naw dude, he got high and went to Dairy Queen.
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cush
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ugh. why the hell are we still posting in this thread? can't you people let it die?
yes, i know, that was just another contributory post.
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kachoong
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So what if Sharma was a pothead nine years ago... I don't care! So what if he's a pothead now... I don't care. If he got DQ'ed... too bad. I doubt missing the win at one boring comp actually deflated his career.
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USnavy
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deltav wrote: Sharma is a great guy, but he is in the public spotlight and therefore needs to follow a certain code of accountability.
(This post was edited by USnavy on Mar 6, 2010, 10:14 AM)
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I_do
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USnavy wrote: deltav wrote: Sharma is a great guy, but he is in the public spotlight and therefore needs to follow a certain code of accountability. No, not really. Public status is completely irrelevant to moral or legal accountability. Being famous has no baring on one's accountability and responsibility. Just because I am not famous does not mean I should be less accountable for my actions then someone who is famous. Actually its more the opposite if anything. How many famous people do you know who serve same prison sentences as average Americans who commit identical crimes (hint: Michale Jackson)?
Yes, yes really. He recieves money from his sponsors. In return they can expect him to be a good ambassador for their brand.
Just look at what happened to Tiger Woods
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shimanilami
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I_do wrote: USnavy wrote: deltav wrote: Sharma is a great guy, but he is in the public spotlight and therefore needs to follow a certain code of accountability. No, not really. Public status is completely irrelevant to moral or legal accountability. Being famous has no baring on one's accountability and responsibility. Just because I am not famous does not mean I should be less accountable for my actions then someone who is famous. Actually its more the opposite if anything. How many famous people do you know who serve same prison sentences as average Americans who commit identical crimes (hint: Michale Jackson)? Yes, yes really. He recieves money from his sponsors. In return they can expect him to be a good ambassador for their brand. Just look at what happened to Tiger Woods
I'd no sooner look to Tiger Woods for moral guidance than I'd look to the Pope for advice on my short game. I think no less of Tiger than I did before all this infidelity crap came out, because I never considered him a role model in the first place. Rankly, the companies, parents, media, etc. that feel let down by the Tigers, Sharmas, Jordans, etc. of the world brought it upon themselves.
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I_do
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shimanilami wrote: I_do wrote: USnavy wrote: deltav wrote: Sharma is a great guy, but he is in the public spotlight and therefore needs to follow a certain code of accountability. No, not really. Public status is completely irrelevant to moral or legal accountability. Being famous has no baring on one's accountability and responsibility. Just because I am not famous does not mean I should be less accountable for my actions then someone who is famous. Actually its more the opposite if anything. How many famous people do you know who serve same prison sentences as average Americans who commit identical crimes (hint: Michale Jackson)? Yes, yes really. He recieves money from his sponsors. In return they can expect him to be a good ambassador for their brand. Just look at what happened to Tiger Woods I'd no sooner look to Tiger Woods for moral guidance than I'd look to the Pope for advice on my short game. I think no less of Tiger than I did before all this infidelity crap came out, because I never considered him a role model in the first place. Rankly, the companies, parents, media, etc. that feel let down by the Tigers, Sharmas, Jordans, etc. of the world brought it upon themselves.
That takes nothing away from the fact they recieved money for being a role model. Whether or not the people that view them as role models are idiots is a completely separate issue.
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johnwesely
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I_do wrote: shimanilami wrote: I_do wrote: USnavy wrote: deltav wrote: Sharma is a great guy, but he is in the public spotlight and therefore needs to follow a certain code of accountability. No, not really. Public status is completely irrelevant to moral or legal accountability. Being famous has no baring on one's accountability and responsibility. Just because I am not famous does not mean I should be less accountable for my actions then someone who is famous. Actually its more the opposite if anything. How many famous people do you know who serve same prison sentences as average Americans who commit identical crimes (hint: Michale Jackson)? Yes, yes really. He recieves money from his sponsors. In return they can expect him to be a good ambassador for their brand. Just look at what happened to Tiger Woods I'd no sooner look to Tiger Woods for moral guidance than I'd look to the Pope for advice on my short game. I think no less of Tiger than I did before all this infidelity crap came out, because I never considered him a role model in the first place. Rankly, the companies, parents, media, etc. that feel let down by the Tigers, Sharmas, Jordans, etc. of the world brought it upon themselves. That takes nothing away from the fact they recieved money for being a role model. Whether or not the people that view them as role models are idiots is a completely separate issue.
I agree with you about the role model thing in the extent that a certain code of conduct is expected because of endorsements, but Sharma smoking pot does not hinder his ability to be a "role model" to rock climbers.
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USnavy
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I_do wrote: USnavy wrote: deltav wrote: Sharma is a great guy, but he is in the public spotlight and therefore needs to follow a certain code of accountability. No, not really. Public status is completely irrelevant to moral or legal accountability. Being famous has no baring on one's accountability and responsibility. Just because I am not famous does not mean I should be less accountable for my actions then someone who is famous. Actually its more the opposite if anything. How many famous people do you know who serve same prison sentences as average Americans who commit identical crimes (hint: Michale Jackson)? Yes, yes really. He recieves money from his sponsors. In return they can expect him to be a good ambassador for their brand. Just look at what happened to Tiger Woods
You should be a lawyer. I can see it now. "Your honor I request this charge be dismissed on the account that I am not famous and thus cannot be held to the same moral accountability's as famous people".
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I_do
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USnavy wrote: I_do wrote: USnavy wrote: deltav wrote: Sharma is a great guy, but he is in the public spotlight and therefore needs to follow a certain code of accountability. No, not really. Public status is completely irrelevant to moral or legal accountability. Being famous has no baring on one's accountability and responsibility. Just because I am not famous does not mean I should be less accountable for my actions then someone who is famous. Actually its more the opposite if anything. How many famous people do you know who serve same prison sentences as average Americans who commit identical crimes (hint: Michale Jackson)? Yes, yes really. He recieves money from his sponsors. In return they can expect him to be a good ambassador for their brand. Just look at what happened to Tiger Woods You should be a lawyer. I can see it now. "Your honor I request this charge be dismissed on the account that I am not famous and thus cannot be held to the same moral accountability's as famous people".
You can be held accountable by the ones you owe responsibility i.e. your friends and family and if you have one a spouse and in your case probably the navy.
Sharma can be held accountable by his family and friends evolv and prana.
Is this really all that different or hard to comprhend?
I mean me personally? I don't care if Sharma smokes pot of Tiger fucks women, or clinton bones lewinski for that matter, but they all accepted a postion which comes with being in the public eye, although obviously some more then others, and made a commitment to thier sponsors.
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shimanilami
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I_do wrote: That takes nothing away from the fact they recieved money for being a role model. Whether or not the people that view them as role models are idiots is a completely separate issue.
Do they receive sponsorships/money for being role models, or for being the best golfers, climbers, basketball players ... in the world? Certainly, sponsors are trying to sell an image, but are athletes responsible for holding true to that image?
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Gmburns2000
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shimanilami wrote: I_do wrote: That takes nothing away from the fact they recieved money for being a role model. Whether or not the people that view them as role models are idiots is a completely separate issue. Do they receive sponsorships/money for being role models, or for being the best golfers, climbers, basketball players ... in the world? Certainly, sponsors are trying to sell an image, but are athletes responsible for holding true to that image?
they're usually paying for both. and yes, if an athelete is getting paid for both then (s)he should be held accountable for both. That obviously isn't always the case (think Kobe Bryant vs that chick in Colorado), but for some athletes (Woods, Federer) it certainly is true.
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I seriously can't believe this thread won't die. It's not even funny anymore, I'm concerned for your sanity.
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Gmburns2000
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mturner wrote: I seriously can't believe this thread won't die. It's not even funny anymore, I'm concerned for your sanity.
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Gmburns2000 wrote: mturner wrote: I seriously can't believe this thread won't die. It's not even funny anymore, I'm concerned for your sanity. bump
bump 4:
*Chris and 5.15 sends
*money in climbing
*pro climbers giving slide shows, teaching clinics, helping to design gear and ideas in climbing.
*ice hash and big buddah cheese indica.
but I say pay the alpinists more. That shit is the real deal. Alpinists probably think a lot less about sponsers and more on well...climbing. FA's, remote regions of the globe, etc.
I met Chris in joes valley a few years ago. Super nice guy. he was just having a good time, looking for some good energy to feed off of so he can go f*ckin send!
And I looked at this thread a few times. Didn't want to get involved. But this seriously has to end. It's a lame topic. Gossip. You all sound like junior high girls.
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i_h8_choss wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: mturner wrote: I seriously can't believe this thread won't die. It's not even funny anymore, I'm concerned for your sanity. bump bump 4: *Chris and 5.15 sends *money in climbing *pro climbers giving slide shows, teaching clinics, helping to design gear and ideas in climbing. *ice hash and big buddah cheese indica. but I say pay the alpinists more. That shit is the real deal. Alpinists probably think a lot less about sponsers and more on well...climbing. FA's, remote regions of the globe, etc. I met Chris in joes valley a few years ago. Super nice guy. he was just having a good time, looking for some good energy to feed off of so he can go f*ckin send! And I looked at this thread a few times. Didn't want to get involved. But this seriously has to end. It's a lame topic. Gossip. You all sound like junior high girls.
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So, uh, did he really get disqualified? I actually don't know.
It must have messed his career up badly.
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I'm just gonna come out and say that I think you're being a
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i_h8_choss wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: mturner wrote: I seriously can't believe this thread won't die. It's not even funny anymore, I'm concerned for your sanity. bump bump 4: *Chris and 5.15 sends *money in climbing *pro climbers giving slide shows, teaching clinics, helping to design gear and ideas in climbing. *ice hash and big buddah cheese indica. but I say pay the alpinists more. That shit is the real deal. Alpinists probably think a lot less about sponsers and more on well...climbing. FA's, remote regions of the globe, etc. I met Chris in joes valley a few years ago. Super nice guy. he was just having a good time, looking for some good energy to feed off of so he can go f*ckin send! And I looked at this thread a few times. Didn't want to get involved. But this seriously has to end. It's a lame topic. Gossip. You all sound like junior high girls.
Nonsense some people here are arguing a legal binding contracting doens't mean you have obligations. I'm telling them they are wrong. I don't give a crap who did what and with whom, noone made me any promises.
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zeke_sf wrote: It must have messed his career up badly.
Obviously
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johnwesely wrote: zeke_sf wrote: It must have messed his career up badly. Obviously
Somebody really is into one starring you. I wish it were me.
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zeke_sf wrote: johnwesely wrote: zeke_sf wrote: It must have messed his career up badly. Obviously Somebody really is into one starring you. I wish it were me.
Nothing is stopping you. You can take this one if you want.
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Re: [Dynosoarus] Chris Sharma DQ'ed Is It True?
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