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chromwells_head


Aug 31, 2005, 1:38 AM
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so are you implying that my idea would not work? please let me know, i need to know if I'm just being retarded or if I'm reading posts from people who have nothing better to do with there time but ridicule others for being creative. i thought climbers in general were supportive, positive people!


anykineclimb


Aug 31, 2005, 7:20 AM
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...i need to know if I'm just being retarded or if I'm reading posts from people who have nothing better to do with there time but ridicule others ...

Haven't been here long huh? :roll:


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Aug 31, 2005, 8:13 AM
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Aug 31, 2005, 12:18 PM
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Siping theoretically could work, in that it may increase surface area contact with rock and in turn, increase friction. This other idea, with the ridges and raised areas, well, that's just baloney. You're thinking you'll be more effective 'hooking' small features with the ridges glued onto your soles, when in reality, you'll just tear the ridges off of the shoe. It's a noble thing to try to revolutionize the shoe industry, but this isn't going to be the idea that succeeds.

Mark


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Aug 31, 2005, 1:50 PM
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:lol: i think that the ridges are kinda old news ya know? but the siping will help the rubber to stay soft and conform when you smear on the holds, rather than the toe staying soft and sticky, and the center of the shoe going tight and hard! and as far as been here long? been coming here reading posts for about 2 years, just finally decided to join, kinda glad i did
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Sep 1, 2005, 6:59 AM
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Being someone with a background in performance autos, and some racing (formula fords), I know a bit about tires. I have seen references to tires in this thread so I will explain a few things. Sipes and channels in tread of road tires are for the express purpose of moving water from the contact patch out toward the sidewalls, they do not help dry performance in any way shape or form. When a road tire is used for racing on dry surfaces it is shaved so the tread is of minimal depth. Why? Because under racing conditions tread deforms. When racing doesn't call for street legal tires, what sort of tires do they use? Sticky rubber slicks, treaded tires are relegated for use on vintage race cars to preserve the old ways and look, and in the rain. Some racing organizations, in efforts to slow down the racing, and make passing more common, have added grooves to tires, but that is a different issue. Now in my mind, adding cuts to the sole of a shoe will most likely add a squirmy feeling as the no longer cohesive rubber deforms. Ridges will reduce the contact area when smearing, and probably cause problems on dime edges. Go ahead and try if you want, many interesting things happen when people take chances. I just don't see how it could work that well. It seems to me it would be more like climbing in Chuck Taylors, Vans or approach shoes.


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Good points.

There is a reason the inside edge of most approach shoe soles are smooth

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