That he will have completed his term is a moot point, because he is not the problem. He is only a component of the problem, which is a corrupt administration. An investigation would hopefully expose the systemic corruption, so that it would not make its into the next administration.

I think (and hope) that this is a self-correcting problem. I think it is clear to the vast majority of people in this country that the current experiment with far right-wing evangelical leadership has been a miserable failure. I predict the Republicans will lose many 2006 elections simply as a form of backlash against the current administration of GWB.

We'll have to wait and see, of course.

Curt

G,

Although I enjoy some of your opinions, I do not appreciate being patronized. I was educated at two major universities, have been on the planet for almost fifty years, and have follow politics for most of my adult life. I think I understand the how the system is supposed to work.

Have you ever heard this quote?

Thorne, I have asked you several times now, yet you seem reluctant to answer: What are you trying to accomplish here?

Sorry, but I don't think this going anywhere.

Nope, and I don't suppose I'll ever hear another quote from this Jonathan Wallace guy (had to look it up).

Tip: If you honestly want to promote discussion, instead of oppositional discord, lay off the zealous vitriol.

I dont agree with everything that Bush has done and I dont consider myself a Republican, but one thing that I cannot stand is to see the economy continually being blamed on Bush. Contrary to the popular belief of the ignorant public Bush nor Alan Greenspan control the economy. You can blame downturns in the economy on the corporations or the public but not on the president in power. If anybody wants to argue that the economy is Bush's fault then I want to see their argument.
-Aaron

Whether or not you'll hear another from the quoter has nothing to do with why I used the quote.

You asked if I had ever heard that quote from some random guy from Brooklyn who almost no one has ever heard a quote from, so the question had no point?

I also don't know if I really agree with what Wallace is saying. Society is normally some peachy place?

Rufus, I don’t know if you know, but when it comes to war, Presidents lie, they maneuver, and deceive the people. There are plenty of examples throughout American history (pick at random), and one could even argue that some of it is required by the rules of secrecy or they are assisted by that secrecy. We will not know the facts for at least 25 years, and even then we might not know everything. You will not get far on lying.

Again, I think he has committed crimes, violations of international law that we are a party to via enabling legislation, such as the War Crimes Act (which doesn’t take long to read: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002441-- --000-.html). So I think there is a window to move towards on impeachment, but it will not happen as this country is very hostile towards international law when by the nature of our power, we have no need to follow it.

I think we are on two totally different planes here.

You think that Bush being charged as a war criminal is unlikely, and then you jump to the conclusion that lying is a better candidate for prosecution?

For those of you, who are interested, the poll is now at 70% to 28% in favor of Bush's impeachment.

Cool. How many would like the sun to rise in the West tomorrow? :lol:

Curt

Not to sound adversarial, but if this exercise is so pointless to you, then why are you participating in it?

This thread is like a train-wreck; it's hard to look away.

Curt

G, With all due respect, if you are on another plane, it is because you have strayed from the purpose of my OP argument. I suggest that you re-read the entire thread, if you want to understand my position, because I don't feel like continually explaining it. I have already received several Emails, corroborating that my message is clear.

That is only a two day weekend for me, so I doubt I'll make it.

Are you into college football at all? I'm kind of impressed with Notre Dame thus far, but it is still early.

I grew up about an hour from South Bend, but never became an Irish fan.