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so which would you choose... im in a tight spot... a 6 week expedition to the bugaboos, or my girl who i love way too much, shes headed back to school in 8weeks and i wont see her for 3months.
just curious... im headed out on expedition and she wont come with. says she doesnt wanna wait for me at camp all day while "i stick my hands in some other crackb than hers"(her words)... it would kill me to loose her but id loose my head if i say no, any advice people???
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secretagent
Jul 7, 2006, 4:49 AM
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I'd go on the expedition.
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alaskazach
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i just had a friend get devorced over climbing, it is worth it go climbing man.
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Well two sides here. First of all if you really love her then you have the rest of your life to spend with her maybe if thats where its going. So you might as well take advantage of your youth and live it up! If she really loves you she'll understand because this is your life you are a climber, in the same way you should understand that she is going to have things like school that are important to her to. Love always finds a way. or you could look at the other side she might be hurt that you are putting climbing before her when you don't have that much time. And she might feel like your time with her doesn't really matter ( most likly not but hey it happens). In that case maybe go on this expedition aother time, you have a lot of time to climb and maybe just a little with this person.
Best thing to do talk to her and ask her to honestly tell you wether she would be hurt or not. Look her dead in the eye, I beleive eyes are portals to the soul and all of a persons emotion truly lies in their eyes, so you will be able to tell if she is being completely honest.
just my 2 cents
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kantkatchme
Jul 7, 2006, 5:07 AM
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dude...go climb.
if she gets it then shell understand. if she doesnt...well that sucks
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Jul 7, 2006, 5:08 AM
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Ultimately what any of us say it doesn't matter, because you are the one that has to wiegh the options. I broke up with girl that I had been with for three years recently, and my climbing played a big part in that, plus it was our personalities.
Anyway, I think that if she truely does love you she will take climbing as a part of you, she'll take it as a part of who you really are. In which case she might be pissed that you're going on this expedition and not with her, but she'll get over it... Or she won't...
Just remember, those rocks are not going anywhere anytime soon, but she is.
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Jul 7, 2006, 5:10 AM
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6 weeks is a long time, but as long as you don't leave on a bitter note, those last 2 weeks should be the best of your life. I would go climbing, but that's me, to some people climbing is a fun hobby, not an obsession. The rock would never leave you because you wanted to take a 6 week vacation with your girlfriend. I think the rock loves you more.
If she loves you, she will understand that this is a very important life experience to you. If you want to go climbing, then she should understand that you love to climb and she should let you live your happy life without you having to second guess and ruin your trip wondering how she REALLY feels.
But then you have to ask youself a more important question. What do you really want to do? Do you want to go on an awesome climbing trip or do you want to stay home and spend some fleeting time with your girlfriend. Once you decide what YOU want to do, your loving girlfriend should understand your decision and accept it whole-heartedly.
But don't make any decision with doubts or unanswered questions. Whatever you do, do it without regrets and make a decision that you can be committed to.
I can understand how you feel. I'm leaving for college soon and my sweetheart will be 3 hours away back at home for two semesters but I keep spending weekends out climbing and backpacking. It's hard, just make the decision for yourself and if she loves you she will understand that it's what you need and what you love.
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Jul 7, 2006, 5:12 AM
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i'd stay with the girl if i were you.....the bugaboos are tough and you sound like a puss.
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Jul 7, 2006, 5:27 AM
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Is there any chance you can take your trip while she is away at school?
(No, I didn't think so) Go climb! Then and ask her to love you for who you are.
I would regret spending 6 weeks with my girlfriend instead of following my dreams.
do nothing I will regret
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If you have to ask, you are not serious about this relationship...go climbing. And from the looks of your profile, I'd say you are not at a point in your life where you are ready for a committed relationship yet anyway. Be honest, if you missed this opportunity, you would resent her for it.
IMHO, you need to have a heart to heart with yourself and then your gf. If you are both serious about each other, you will come to a compromise in which you both love and honor each other by putting the other's desires above your own - think you two are mature enough for that? This is what a committed relationship is about. If neither of you can see beyond your own selfish desires, you don't have a relationship worth saving... just an arrangment that provides predictable, mutually satisfying sex (if she is lucky, heh).
OK, I'm sure someone will suggest it is worth saving if the sex is good enough... lets not go there, people.
My wife suggests you climb for 4 weeks and take your gf on a non-climbing vacation for 4 weeks.
Hope this advice helps.
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I am happily married and still climbing.
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Jul 7, 2006, 5:36 AM
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Are you master of your domain?
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sliianna
Jul 7, 2006, 5:59 AM
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go climbing! 3 months is not a big deal in the big scheme of things. meet up after for a nonclimbing trip.
different people- different interests. you've both got to do what you love to do.
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Jul 7, 2006, 6:02 AM
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In reply to: i just had a friend get devorced over climbing, it is worth it go climbing man.
it's worth it if you want a divorce. i'll have to tuck that one into the memory banks.
i say go for the climbing. if she doesn't understand your passion for the sport, then go ahead and show her the door. granted, 6 weeks is a long time, but love is patient, no?
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Jul 7, 2006, 6:18 AM
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You´re leaving for 6 weeks, and she´s leaving in 8, that still gives you 2 weeks to see her afterwards right?
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Jul 7, 2006, 6:23 AM
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It really depends on the girl, your age and the relationship. Did she know this was something important to you when you got involved? Are you 18 or are you 26?
I've become involved in a serious relationship, and we see each other A LOT. She encourages me to go climbing though. I frequently say no, cause I'd rather see her right now, but she is always encouraging it. She wuld never stop me from going someplace, unless she was scared for my safety. She would miss me a lot and I would do the same, but she would want me to do it.
And I know that when I got back I'd take her someplace cool, we'd have a lot of fun doing other stuff, etc. I'm hoping to get her interested in climbing (she hikes and stuff now) so she can at least experience it somewhat.
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Jul 7, 2006, 6:26 AM
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(from a girls point of view) I say if she loves you as much as you love her, she would understand how important this is to you and you should go...if she doesn't understand how great that crack is, r u sure you want her?
Either way, she should understand this is a great opportunity and its in your blood...you have no choice but to go. If she doesn't get it then i would reevaluate if you can be with somebody who knows so little about your passion. I personally would choose climbing over boyfriend in that case...but then again, he would jump at the chance and join me.
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Jul 7, 2006, 6:36 AM
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More or less echo what others have said -
Pro girlfriend
- The rock will be there for the next 100 years maybe, she might not.
- You can always go on another trip in your lifetime
Pro climbing
- If you have to ask others about your priorities, then most probably your gf is not important. Ditch her.
- If she doesn't understand, then she's not worth it. Then again if you can't understand her needs, the you're not worth it either. :lol:
So, which one has more weight dude? :wink:
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rock_junkie
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Get your ass in gear! Have one last horizontal ho down and head out to Canada!
PS dont forget to bring a Hustler; June was a great issue.
Happy Sending
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Jul 7, 2006, 10:24 AM
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dude, did you honestly think there would be a majority of people who said "o you bvetter stay with your girlfriend, because I wouldnt go climbing if I was you..."
This is a climbing website. Why don't you post on Oprahs website and see what kind of responses you get. (just a thought)
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Since its "just" a girlfriend I would say go climb. If you were married there is a whole 'nother level of comittment there and some other considerations need to be looked at but, at your stage in life I would say go climb! If she is still around when it is time to get married then marry her! your chances of going on climbing expeditions (most likely much shorter ones) will be better.
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reg
Jul 7, 2006, 11:54 AM
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a good women can be hard to find so....I was gonna say keep the girl but after reading your post and hearin what she had to say and think (about hangin around camp) she sounds to "high maintenance" - it's all about her! - move on
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I would go climbing. If she would have left me cause of that then ''be gone h*e!''
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climb, bro. if she loves you, she'll still be there, because she'll understand that you're a climber, and it's your passion. and honestly, if things fall apart (whether it's now or later), climbing will still be there for you.
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wtf, go climbing.
besides, the girl needs to understand your future decision making patterns. get her started off right.
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Jul 7, 2006, 12:21 PM
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Climbing taps your wallet in a good way. My rack never got whiney about not being taken out to dinner. Go climbing.
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tgreene
Jul 7, 2006, 12:34 PM
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There was a period in my life, when my wife kinda *squashed* the things that I love to do, and this was very troubling to me... Granted, this all came after nearly being paralyzed and/or killed in a 75' fall from a rap accident in 1993.
HOWEVER; as much as I love climbing and whitewater, I love my wife first and foremost, thus I respected her wishes.
Fast forward 10 years to when my life started crashing down around me, and one day out of the blue, she suggests that I go out and buy all new camping & climbing gear, and take off for a week or 2. :shock:
She has tried climbing on a few occasions, and realizes it isn't for her, but she loves to hike, so she generally joins us and then sets out on her own for the day. She still gets nervous watching me lead trad lines, but is fine with TR. As for whitewater, she'll run shuttles all day long (and for anyone), and always manages to find a place to get me some beer for afterwards.
If she were to again ask me to give it all up, I would do so in a heartbeat, but only because nothing in my life matters without her. She is the reason I wake up every morning, not some river or rock... And she is the one who falls asleep in my arms every night, not some river or rock...
In this day and age of a 70% divorce rate, it's no wonder from many of the responses posted. Also, you must consider that *IF* something were to happen to you on your next trip and you're left unable to ever climb again (or do much of anything), where will your woman be..? Mine will remain by my side, and I by hers! :idea:
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Jul 7, 2006, 12:42 PM
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In reply to: In this day and age of a 70% divorce rate, it's no wonder from many of the responses posted. -Tim
irrelevant but that number is only near accurate if you include all second and third and fourth and so on marriages.
just over 50% for first marriages and that number doesn't change for first marriages between a christian couple. it does change for a couple that went through some significant amount of pre-marriage counseling, though.
again, like I said irrelevant, but not much new has been said in awhile so it's not like I'm getting in the way of anything.
nice counter point of view though, tgreene.
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teach her to climb. If you cant share the thing you love the most with her then the relationship is not going to be healthy anyways. (unless you are as lucky as T green and have a woman who is happy to be in basecamp but still with you on the trip) I much rather do big climbs and road trips with my GF than with some stinky dirtbag guy. as for this trip it totaly depends on how commited you guys are to each other. leave her behind and she could be hooked up with someone else by the time you get back!!
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In reply to: In reply to: In this day and age of a 70% divorce rate, it's no wonder from many of the responses posted. -Tim irrelevant but that number is only near accurate if you include all second and third and fourth and so on marriages. just over 50% for first marriages and that number doesn't change for first marriages between a christian couple. it does change for a couple that went through some significant amount of pre-marriage counseling, though. again, like I said irrelevant, but not much new has been said in awhile so it's not like I'm getting in the way of anything. nice counter point of view though, tgreene. |
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What are you asking for? She's the one that needs the advice. The choice is her's. And from her point of view, she can always find another man's hand for her "crack"...as she so gracefully put it.
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Go Climb.......whats next, marriage and then she says you cant go have a drink with friends after work, or NO MORE CLIMBING period...Then you are married and then what....If you are the one for her, she'll let ya go without bailing on ya..I have been married for 19 years and I still hear this from my wife (and she climbs) and I still go, but she hasnt bailed on me yet. DAMN IT.......................
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In this day and age of a 70% divorce rate, it's no wonder from many of the responses posted. -Tim irrelevant but that number is only near accurate if you include all second and third and fourth and so on marriages. just over 50% for first marriages and that number doesn't change for first marriages between a christian couple. it does change for a couple that went through some significant amount of pre-marriage counseling, though. again, like I said irrelevant, but not much new has been said in awhile so it's not like I'm getting in the way of anything. nice counter point of view though, tgreene. Aye, but it's not irrelevant when you consider that the greatest reason for multiple marriages and divorces, is selfishness and lack of compromise. ;)
and that's why I think that the decision needs to be made by him and that he should follow his heart and if she decides not to love him for the decision he makes, then she isn't loving him for him, for who he is. maybe this is supposed to be a test in your relationship. maybe if you com ehome from this and she has been faithful and she is not bitter and you both have gone about your own lives for 6 weeks thinking about your relationship and you come home and you're both still very much in love, then heck, I'd say she's a pretty damn good candidate for being 'the one' for you.
sorry, before, I meant to be saying that my comment is irrelevant.
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go climb. and if she's not there when you come back, get yourself a climber girlfriend.
sounds like you're hardcore and need one of those either way.
to quote chris rock (strangely enough): "whatever you're into, your woman's gotta be into. If you're a crackhead, your woman better be a crackhead too..."
so...if you're into crack (climbing), hope your girl is too :)
yeah I know it's not that simple. It can be tho :).
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Seriously though, there is some good advice mixed with the sarcasm here. In life, first you must be true to yourself. Compromise is essential in any relationship, but it cannot compromise who you are. If you compromise yourself, your beliefs or your true passions, you will only resent whatever caused that loss of self. For me, climbing is a true passion, a pursuit around which I build my life. I live for the adventures I have and the bonds I build with my climbing partners and friends.
For someone to ask me to sacrifice that would be to ask me to lose a part of myself, and if they're in love with ME then they'd be losing out as well. I dated a girl who asked me not to go climbing and complained about not spending time together and then when I didn't climb she'd ask where the light in my eyes went, where my passion and energy for life had gone to, and then she would resent me for being dull and flat. She didn't realize that by asking me not to go climbing, she was losing the me that she had fallen in love with.
Do what you will, weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision you can, but stay true to yourself. If climbing is a part of you like it's a part of me, then you only have one choice.
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I' married, young, and a climber....
Compromise, how about cutting a week (or 2 if possible) off the trip? That way you can get the best of both. Balanceing climbing and relationships is a hell of a challange. If you can talk with her, explain why you need to do this trip, then meet her half way in what she needs. If she isn't too immature things will work out.
BUT you need to devote your time 100% to her when you come back. do the things she wants to do, (EVEN SHOPPING FOR 3 DAYS STRAIGHT :shock: ) and do not complain...
My wife and I are really close, because of communication and compromise. Don't be too greedy in what you want, and be sure to you repay her for her understanding when the trip is over.
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Go climbing, if she doesn't accept you and what you love toss her!
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If you're really attached to your girlfriend you're just going to end up missing her the whole time... I'd say stay if thats the case.
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Take if from an old dude. At the end of the day you'll have more regret from missing the trip than the woman. Never put a woman above your life's ambitions. Women are overrated, your goals are not.
By the way should anybody need a life coach I'm for hire.
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"If you love someone, set them free."
You're not even engaged and already with the ultimatums!
6 weeks in the Bugs? If you are really a climber you will regret not going for the rest of your life if my guess.
DMT
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In reply to: so which would you choose... im in a tight spot... a 6 week expedition to the bugaboos, or my girl who i love way too much, shes headed back to school in 8weeks and i wont see her for 3months. just curious... im headed out on expedition and she wont come with. says she doesnt wanna wait for me at camp all day while " i stick my hands in some other crackb than hers"(her words)... it would kill me to loose her but id loose my head if i say no, any advice people???
You guys are into fisting, huh? Well, to each his own I guess.
To better help you make this decision, I think we will all need to see pictures of this girl (the less clothes on the better). We all know what the bugs look like.
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The sad thing is, I don't believe that most of you have taken time to clearly read the OP.
His GF is leaving for school, and wants to spend her remaining time with him. Not her friends or family, not on a solo vacation, but with HIM.
He on the other hand is torn about canceling or re-scheduling a trip that would obviously interfere with their time together as a couple.
Everyone seems to be stating the she is the one that needs to be understanding and compromise, rather than him. I mean really, lets put it into simpler terms that more immature individuals can easily understand... ;)
Don't ask another person to do, what you're not willing to do yourself... To fully understand the meaning of this word COMPROMISE, I'll put it into the realms of sexual fantasy -- Pretty much every guy fantasizes about his wife or gf bringing home her best hottie friend, and going at it while we watch or take pictures, but are YOU first ready to bring your buddy home and do the same to him, while she kicks back w/ a camera..? :o
If you aren't willing to go the distance yourself, then don't expect it of others!
Rather than taking your 6 week climbing trip, use that time and money to take HER on a cruise, before she ships off to school, then climb your ass off while she's gone! :wink:
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If she loves you, then she should understand. If you were married and had a family, then it would be different, you probably should not leave for 6 weeks in that case. But you are just dating, and there is a difference. If she is going to be away for 3 months for school, then you are entitled to go climbing for 6 weeks. Has she given the OK to go? Is she protesting. Like someone else said, just don't leave on a sour note, that is REALLY bad. If you can, call her or email her while you are gone. That will help to make her happy. Women are real tricky man, tread lightly.
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If she is nagging you not to go climbing, there are more serious issues in the relationship. In this case, you should go. She wants to control and change you. If, on the other hand, she is the type of girlfriend who wants you to do what you love and is saying, "go climbing", she's a keeper. Stay with her and climb another time.
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In reply to: so which would you choose [..] expedition to the bugaboos, or my girl who [..] says she doesnt wanna wait for me [..]it would kill me to loose her but id loose my head if i say no
Hello Androids.
Take two pieces of advice of a climber wife.
One advice is from a woman's point of view.
Sharing a man with climbing is almost as bad as sharing a man with another woman. Some women say "go climbing", some say straight out "don't you dare" but in time, it all comes down to the feeling of being negtected. There is jealousy, just as if you were going on a date with somebody else, I know it sounds crazy, but it's really comparable.
Remember, that climbing is not a sport like basketball or any other one that you go for 2 or 3 hours once a while or watch it on tv, it really is a part of you life. Is it therefore not, for the woman to have to share her man with some"one" else? That someone being the passion of climbing.
The second part is from woman's climber point of view. My husband is a climber and it he wasn't I'm not sure if he would be my husband. Not because I'd love him less, or I'd love climbing more. But because it just probably wouldn't work in the long run. I mean one day we want to have kids. How do you imagine family holiday when mommy leaves for 6 weeks to go and have fun - by herself! Do you only go on one climbing trip a year?
It's very sad when relationships break up over climbing, but they do :( Sometimes it really doesn't matter how much you love someone at the moment, but what kind of life can you offer them in the future.
Greetings from Poland
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I'd be going climbing if I was you bro. You said you were way in love with her but is she way in love with you??? One way to find out... if she is there when you come back she just might be... or she just used somebody elses big bro in her crack while you were gone.
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In reply to: i'd stay with the girl if i were you.....the bugaboos are tough and you sound like a puss.
Somebody give that man a throphy!
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In reply to: Don't ask another person to do, what you're not willing to do yourself... To fully understand the meaning of this word COMPROMISE, I'll put it into the realms of sexual fantasy -- Pretty much every guy fantasizes about his wife or gf bringing home her best hottie friend, and going at it while we watch or take pictures, but are YOU first ready to bring your buddy home and do the same to him, while she kicks back w/ a camera..?
Why'd you have to go and say that... I lost my appetite half way through my ham sammich :?
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My advice, if it were your wife, keep the wife over climbing. But while you are still single, don't get involved in a girl who doesn't care for climbing. If you end up marrying her, you will be stuck in hell.
Move on, find another girl who likes climbing or doesn't mind that you climb and supports you (like my wife :wink: ).
If she doesn't understand your passions, she's not compatible with you. If you stay with her you will have growing resentment towards her and she will sense your hostility. :evil: The relationship will grow cold and you will wish that you took the trip. :cry:
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In reply to: In reply to: Don't ask another person to do, what you're not willing to do yourself... To fully understand the meaning of this word COMPROMISE, I'll put it into the realms of sexual fantasy -- Pretty much every guy fantasizes about his wife or gf bringing home her best hottie friend, and going at it while we watch or take pictures, but are YOU first ready to bring your buddy home and do the same to him, while she kicks back w/ a camera..? Why'd you have to go and say that... I lost my appetite half way through my ham sammich :?
Thats just wrong.......................NO CLASS..........
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While I somewhat agree with what tgreen said, I also agree with others in this post.
My story: When my wife and I started dating there were periods where I would dissappear for 4-6 months at a time. All this time was spent away sans phone and most communication. We had email, but that was here then gone then here then gone. We spent on average 9 - 10 months apart per year for the first three years of our relationship. All the while growing stonger as a couple.
In my opinion, I'd go in the direction that was planned first. If this trip is spur of the moment then you should stay. Now, if you have been planning this trip for a few months, then you should go on this trip. Even if you knew that she was leaving two weeks after you got back.
If she wants to be with you, she'll be with you. If she hasn't matured enough to realize that you have a life too, and need to have some fun as well... ... then maybe the relationship isn't really worth it. Two weeks is more than enough time to come together as a couple, especially if you stay within each other's sight. My wife knows that she'd get dropped in the back seat if I were able to take a trip of a lifetime. But that is my relationship, and how things work for me. You should figure out with your girl how she feels about it. I'm sure that she is becoming jealous of your climbing and the amount of time you devote to it. Have a talk, see how she feels, explain to her how important this trip is to you, and you should be in the clear.
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Well, it's been chewed to bits already, but I'll add one more:
Is this indicative of how your future relationship will look? Are you going to be forewer deciding between spending time with her, and going climbing?
Something to think about... I'd say, have a serious talk with HER about it, instead of asking for the opinions here. Ask ker how she sees your life together. Maybe you aren't all that compatible to begin with.
I seriously would not be able to cope if my DH was going away doing fun stuff for weeks at a time and leaving me behind. it's one thing when you have to be apart for months b/c of the work or school commitment (we've done it), and it is different when you CHOOSE to go away to have fun rather than stay and have fun with her.
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In reply to: Well, it's been chewed to bits already, but I'll add one more: Is this indicative of how your future relationship will look? Are you going to be forewer deciding between spending time with her, and going climbing? Something to think about... I'd say, have a serious talk with HER about it, instead of asking for the opinions here. Ask ker how she sees your life together. Maybe you aren't all that compatible to begin with. I seriously would not be able to cope if my DH was going away doing fun stuff for weeks at a time and leaving me behind. it's one thing when you have to be apart for months b/c of the work or school commitment (we've done it), and it is different when you CHOOSE to go away to have fun rather than stay and have fun with her.
This is a good point. If you're going to want to continue taking trips and not spending the time that she wants to spend with you, it's not fair to her to continue the relationship. You have to think about more than just yourself on this one.
Good point!
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In reply to: The sad thing is, I don't believe that most of you have taken time to clearly read the OP.
That's FUNNY!
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Don't ask another person to do, what you're not willing to do yourself... To fully understand the meaning of this word COMPROMISE, I'll put it into the realms of sexual fantasy -- Pretty much every guy fantasizes about his wife or gf bringing home her best hottie friend, and going at it while we watch or take pictures, but are YOU first ready to bring your buddy home and do the same to him, while she kicks back w/ a camera..? Why'd you have to go and say that... I lost my appetite half way through my ham sammich :? Thats just wrong.......................NO CLASS.......... |
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In reply to: Rather than taking your 6 week climbing trip, use that time and money to take HER on a cruise, before she ships off to school,
That's gay. A cruise. She'll have him waxing his legs and putting hot stones on his eyeballs and before its all done he'll be painting her toenails too.
Its the BUGS MAN!!!!1111 There are lots of girls, but you only have one youth and you don't get it back, ever.
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sack up and stop asking questions that you already know the answer to.
is this the ladie's room?
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Don't ask another person to do, what you're not willing to do yourself... To fully understand the meaning of this word COMPROMISE, I'll put it into the realms of sexual fantasy -- Pretty much every guy fantasizes about his wife or gf bringing home her best hottie friend, and going at it while we watch or take pictures, but are YOU first ready to bring your buddy home and do the same to him, while she kicks back w/ a camera..? Why'd you have to go and say that... I lost my appetite half way through my ham sammich :? Thats just wrong.......................NO CLASS.......... No s---, he should have opted for a Turkey Club! :lol:
Yeah, but that has bacon... too much of that and I'll be an aid climber ;)
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A man is on one of those singles cruises and as luck would have it the ship hits a reef and sinks. Our hero is left on a desert island with 6 beautiful women and a lot of good climbing.
Paradise, wouldn't you say???
Now at first our hero wanted it all, 24/7. He dated all the women and climbed most every day. And all was at peace in paradise.
But he couldn't stay the course, he simply lacked the endurance. He needed some recovery time.
So rather quickly an arrangement evolved. One day each week he spent with one of the women and on Sunday he went climbing.
Now at first his Sunday's seemed rather boring by comparison. Oh he'd boulder and he was very good, but all he could think about were the women.
But soon enough he came to anticipate his Sundays, to value them. By the time he got to Sunday he was so wiped out from the 6 women he could barely pull down! Climbing became his refuge, his sole escape from the pressures of the world.
Till finally the unbelievable, even to him... each day and night for 6 days a week, no matter what position or weird activiity he found himself engaged in, all he could think about was Sunday, about climbing.
Then one morning they spotted a rescue ship off the coast. As luck would have it, the ship struck the same reef and sank before their eyes. As the bow slid beneath the water they could see the sole survivor swimming to shore. She was a beautiful woman.
"SHIT! There goes my Sundays!" Was all our hero had to say.
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In reply to: sack up and stop asking questions that you already know the answer to. is this the ladie's room?
LOL! I'm a married man, I know what you mean. :lol:
Asking when you don't really want an answer.
Guys are wired so different.
WARNING: OVER SERIOUS RESPONSE
I still think he should weigh the realities. Right now she's about as supportive of his climbing as she's going to get. Once he's more involved / married (assuming the relationship could go there), she's going to stop the dating act that we all go through, change big time on him and demand even more of his time. Is he ready for this?
We guys need to consider what the women we are dating want and need. It's unfair to her to think that she'll change (to his desires) once the relationship deepens.
In fact whatever neediness you have now will only increase with a deepening of the relationship. It's how we feel supported and loved for who we are. It's how we interpret that the relationship is "deepening". Women who want gifts, want more to feel that the relationship has deepened; Guys who want recreation partners want it more to feel that the relationship has deepened, etc.
He's going to want her to support his climbing MORE in order to feel valued in the relationship. She's obviously going to want MORE time to feel loved. That seems to be how she interprets love. Not all women are like this, but it sounds like her gig. If that's what she wants and if he's not wanting that, he should move on. If that's the relationship he's ready for, he should drop the trip and dive head first. If he stays, he's telling her that he's willing to give her what she wants and she's going to hold him to it.
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In reply to: i'd stay with the girl if i were you.....the bugaboos are tough and you sound like a puss.
Trophy, trophy, trophy.............can I give more than one at a time?
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It sounded to me like maybe he actually wanted to spend time with her. You know. He loves her. Sex. Maybe she's cute even.
I'd try to reschedule or abbreviate the trip or try again on getting her to go with you if you agree to spend x days a week with her instead of climbing. You need rest days, right? You know. Sex.
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In reply to: In reply to: sack up and stop asking questions that you already know the answer to. is this the ladie's room? LOL! I'm a married man, I know what you mean. :lol: Asking when you don't really want an answer. Guys are wired so different. WARNING: OVER SERIOUS RESPONSE I still think he should weigh the realities. Right now she's about as supportive of his climbing as she's going to get. Once he's more involved / married (assuming the relationship could go there), she's going to stop the dating act that we all go through, change big time on him and demand even more of his time. Is he ready for this? We guys need to consider what the women we are dating want and need. It's unfair to her to think that she'll change (to his desires) once the relationship deepens. In fact whatever neediness you have now will only increase with a deepening of the relationship. It's how we feel supported and loved for who we are. It's how we interpret that the relationship is "deepening". Women who want gifts, want more to feel that the relationship has deepened; Guys who want recreation partners want it more to feel that the relationship has deepened, etc. He's going to want her to support his climbing MORE in order to feel valued in the relationship. She's obviously going to want MORE time to feel loved. That seems to be how she interprets love. Not all women are like this, but it sounds like her gig. If that's what she wants and if he's not wanting that, he should move on. If that's the relationship he's ready for, he should drop the trip and dive head first. If he stays, he's telling her that he's willing to give her what she wants and she's going to hold him to it. GT |
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If the bugaboos are a once in a lifetime experience, you will resent her if you do not go. And if she gets upset about this trip, what about future trips?
I don't know how old you are or how serious your relationship is. But what I do know is that you only live once, so have as many adventures as possible. If your relationship is meant to be then your last two weeks together will rock, and you will be so happy to see eachother in 3 months! And I would think that you would want to be with someone who is supportive of your dreams and goals as much as you should be supportive of hers.
Tough situation, but you will figure it out!
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In reply to: If she is nagging you not to go climbing, there are more serious issues in the relationship. In this case, you should go. She wants to control and change you. If, on the other hand, she is the type of girlfriend who wants you to do what you love and is saying, "go climbing", she's a keeper. Stay with her and climb another time.
a very insightful first post
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Maybe you will meet your soul mate on this trip? A hard cranking bugs climber.....
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This is why I've vowed never to date another girl who doesn't climb.
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In reply to: This is why I've vowed never to date another girl who doesn't climb.
It's sooooo nice when you find one though. I actually met my current girlfriend while climbing, it just makes it so much easier to justify taking a week long trip to play on the rocks.
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Ok.
First off, I imagine you are aware that you can only camp for 14 days in the bugaboos. I doubt that you really care much about that though. After bat hooks on a sport route I can't imagine something like a little camping restriction would hold you back.
Second, you must also be aware that you will never get 6 weeks of good weather in the bugaboos. If you actually love this girl, you will be able to work something out. The hike and drive are long, but you can definitely hike out and go meet your chick if you are actually interested in compromise.
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no spell check....
set a precedent. the relationship needs a basis, goals, that it revolves around. if climbing is central to your life, then your life will revolve around it, and so should the relationship. priorities lined up, the plans unfold from there.
opinion: if it's right, she will go with you, or stay and understand. not ask you to cancel.
opinion: i wouldn't want a relationship where my lady wasn't as psyched about climbing as i was. that would be tough....
possibility: maybe she could bring a pal (sister, friend) and they could do their own climbing or outdoor adventure while you kick some ass. then you could meet at some point and hang out.
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You could always just dig a deep pit in your basement, assuring that she will in fact be there upon your return! :twisted:
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In reply to: You could always just dig a deep pit in your basement, assuring that she will in fact be there upon your return! :twisted:
"It wears the lotion on its skin."
"I ate his liver with a nice chianti. sthu, sthu, sthu!"
OK, I'm creeping myself out! :shock:
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Definitely Climbing!!!!!
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In reply to: A man is on one of those singles cruises and as luck would have it the ship hits a reef and sinks. Our hero is left on a desert island with 6 beautiful women and a lot of good climbing. Paradise, wouldn't you say??? Now at first our hero wanted it all, 24/7. He dated all the women and climbed most every day. And all was at peace in paradise. But he couldn't stay the course, he simply lacked the endurance. He needed some recovery time. So rather quickly an arrangement evolved. One day each week he spent with one of the women and on Sunday he went climbing. Now at first his Sunday's seemed rather boring by comparison. Oh he'd boulder and he was very good, but all he could think about were the women. But soon enough he came to anticipate his Sundays, to value them. By the time he got to Sunday he was so wiped out from the 6 women he could barely pull down! Climbing became his refuge, his sole escape from the pressures of the world. Till finally the unbelievable, even to him... each day and night for 6 days a week, no matter what position or weird activiity he found himself engaged in, all he could think about was Sunday, about climbing. Then one morning they spotted a rescue ship off the coast. As luck would have it, the ship struck the same reef and sank before their eyes. As the bow slid beneath the water they could see the sole survivor swimming to shore. She was a beautiful woman. "s---! There goes my Sundays!" Was all our hero had to say. DMT
Quoted so that it could be read again. Good story, great moral ending...
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In reply to: In reply to: You could always just dig a deep pit in your basement, assuring that she will in fact be there upon your return! :twisted: "It wears the lotion on its skin." "I ate his liver with a nice chianti. sthu, sthu, sthu!" OK, I'm creeping myself out! :shock: GT
hahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I have a friend who moved to Utah to go back to college. His wife owns his soul. She never lets him go climbing. Show your gf that you're in charge. As soon as she starts to see that she has control, you're screwed, kiss your rack and every opertunity for a road trip goodbye. Make sure you have sex one more time before you leave and make sure you're on top, only to further show you're in control, its just better that way. Unless you want to be you're wife's bitch untill you're 100, then go right ahead.
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In reply to: In reply to: I have a friend who moved to Utah to go back to college. His wife owns his soul. She never lets him go climbing. Show your gf that you're in charge. As soon as she starts to see that she has control, you're screwed, kiss your rack and every opertunity for a road trip goodbye. Make sure you have sex one more time before you leave and make sure you're on top, only to further show you're in control, its just better that way. Unless you want to be you're wife's b---- untill you're 100, then go right ahead. so you've never had a girlfriend eh?
:lol: right on climberboy.....you get my vote for president of the he-man woman hater's club!!!
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: I have a friend who moved to Utah to go back to college. His wife owns his soul. She never lets him go climbing. Show your gf that you're in charge. As soon as she starts to see that she has control, you're screwed, kiss your rack and every opertunity for a road trip goodbye. Make sure you have sex one more time before you leave and make sure you're on top, only to further show you're in control, its just better that way. Unless you want to be you're wife's b---- untill you're 100, then go right ahead. so you've never had a girlfriend eh? :lol: right on climberboy.....you get my vote for president of the he-man woman hater's club!!!
C'mon... The guys name is 'Parker'. Sounds like a mama's boy to me. Who wants to do a Parker, anyway?
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In reply to: In reply to: I have a friend who moved to Utah to go back to college. His wife owns his soul. She never lets him go climbing. Show your gf that you're in charge. As soon as she starts to see that she has control, you're screwed, kiss your rack and every opertunity for a road trip goodbye. Make sure you have sex one more time before you leave and make sure you're on top, only to further show you're in control, its just better that way. Unless you want to be you're wife's b---- untill you're 100, then go right ahead. so you've never had a girlfriend eh?
haha, a very classy and possibly accurate insult. awesome
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relationships must be getting weirder and weirder...
you'll see each other in 3 months. maybe you can visit her for a wekeend while she's in school, or whatever
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She's giving you an ultimatum between two things you love, I say, go on the climbing trip. That's kinda ridiculous. What will the next ultimatum be? Isn't part of a relationship being able to go out and have your own life as well as a life with someone else??? And one of my favorite statements.....how can I miss you IF YOU WON'T GO AWAY! Good Luck, I hope you both make the right decision. No regrets, you only live once.
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Go climbing man. The g/f will be there after you get back. If she's not then get another :lol:
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Another solution would be to boil her, rendering the fat from her smooth and supple skin. Once you've completed the rendering process, you can pour her into a small metal tin to carry with you.
Being that you'll often be climbing in direct sunlight, you'll need a good lip balm, so every time you use her, it will be like a kiss... :oops:
If you really wanted to feel her love, you could use a little more to :boring:
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First off...Is the punani THAT good man?
If yes then...
Do you plan on staying with this girl foreva...foreva-eva....foreva-eva?
What if she dumps you a week after your buddies leave for the trip...THAT would be funny!!!
Any GF/BF that won't wait around for you is not worth it anyway...
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tb69hikeclimb
Jul 7, 2006, 9:31 PM
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I would go climbing! just remeber to wear a helmet when you ask her for your nuts back :lol:
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climbsomething
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In reply to: I have a friend who moved to Utah to go back to college. His wife owns his soul. She never lets him go climbing. Show your gf that you're in charge. As soon as she starts to see that she has control, you're screwed, kiss your rack and every opertunity for a road trip goodbye. Make sure you have sex one more time before you leave and make sure you're on top, only to further show you're in control, its just better that way. Unless you want to be you're wife's b---- untill you're 100, then go right ahead.
Look, I've seen a lot of "OMG! relationship or climming??!!11" threads on this site. And I maintain that if you have to ask this on the internet, then you're not very good at at least one of the two.
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renohandjams
Jul 7, 2006, 9:52 PM
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Find a girlfriend that can go with you. My wife climbs so I can't really relate.
On another note, when my wife and I were dating I realized I really loved her because she was the only girlfriend that I would skip snowboarding to hang out with. So.... if you are willing to miss this awesome climb to hang out with her then maybe you really do love her and you just have to get her more excited about climbing.
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Jul 7, 2006, 9:56 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I have a friend who moved to Utah to go back to college. His wife owns his soul. She never lets him go climbing. Show your gf that you're in charge. As soon as she starts to see that she has control, you're screwed, kiss your rack and every opertunity for a road trip goodbye. Make sure you have sex one more time before you leave and make sure you're on top, only to further show you're in control, its just better that way. Unless you want to be you're wife's b---- untill you're 100, then go right ahead. Don't forget to pick her up and bodyslam her, chew her ear and growl loudly. Oh, and make sure she sees that you ALWAYS eat first. That always keeps the alpha established. Look, I've seen a lot of "OMG! relationship or climming??!!11" threads on this site. And I maintain that if you have to ask this on the internet, then you're not very good at at least one of the two.
I'm bad at both! And I intend to keep it that way!
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mcfoley
Jul 7, 2006, 11:11 PM
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Shortly after I started climbing 5 years ago... I told my wife the following...
I'm going to start climbing a lot, meeing peoplw who are into it...dedicating a lot of my time to it, in order to be self sufficient and safe out there.
I want you to be a part of this... I want to learn with you and discover climbing together...soooo you are either going to be part of this new adventure or we'll be spending some weekends/days apart every month.
(side note: she had previously voiced her excitement about learning to climb, but failed to show much enthusiasm or motivation when opportunities presented themself).
Her response was very honest and to the point....she said, she was motivated to climb more an learn with me, but she never REALLY wanted to get so into it that she would get badly hurt...(whatever that meant).
I said great so let's get out there an climb...she called me obsessed! (the nerve...lol)
...5 years later she's following me on 5.8 trad/multipitch, she's leading 5.8 sport (tring 10c, she out boulders me on sit starts and super crimpy balancy stuff, it's great...We discovered climbing together and continue to share it.
Climbing shouldn't be an issue in your relationship, it should be something strengthening your relationship.
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mystical_climber
Jul 7, 2006, 11:40 PM
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I would go climb.. and this is coming from a girl.. I have lost boyfriends over climbing trips.. if it isn't this trip that ends your relationship it will be a future one..
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Jul 8, 2006, 12:13 AM
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I'm jumping on the bandwagon and voting to go climbing. Talk this over with your girlfriend first though; see if a compromise can be reached. If she is adament on keeping an ultimatum, then agree to disagree. Be sure to stress that the last two weeks, however, will be wonderful... and also be sure to do a *wink wink* on wonderful.
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hosh
Jul 8, 2006, 12:31 AM
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I was waiting for you to post a pic of the girl so we could help you make your choice...
hosh.
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Jul 8, 2006, 12:35 AM
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In reply to: i'd stay with the girl if i were you.....the bugaboos are tough and you sound like a puss.
Trophy!
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plambeth
Jul 8, 2006, 12:52 AM
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okay. so apparently you asked her to go with you. doesn't that show her something?
and wtf she doesn't like to climb?
i think you should go.
besides, she knows climbing is "your life."
3 months at school isn't that long right?
and someone else made a good point. you're gone for 6 weeks. she leaves in 8. that's two weeks to see her.
or why don't you go visit her during the three months she's at school.
whatever. go climb.
maybe she's testing you. or maybe she loves you too much to miss you for 6 more weeks.
make a decision.
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androids
Jul 8, 2006, 1:21 AM
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[quote="builttospill"]It really depends on the girl, your age and the relationship. Did she know this was something important to you when you got involved? Are you 18 or are you 26?
im 26 been on the road for 2 years.
.. when she met me i was living in a astro van(with no heat) climbing ice evry day. damn this thread got long.
and she loves climbin, my first date with the girl i dragged her up proffessor falls at night. my problem is im lookin at 5-6months climbin in the chineese north when i get back in sept. and im asking what u would do if you were her.
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jumpingrock
Jul 8, 2006, 1:26 AM
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You are so full of shit.
T5. Well done.
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androids
Jul 8, 2006, 1:32 AM
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In reply to: Get your ass in gear! Have one last horizontal ho down and head out to Canada! PS dont forget to bring a Hustler; June was a great issue. Happy Sending Ryan |
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androids
Jul 8, 2006, 1:49 AM
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[quote="tgreene"]The sad thing is, I don't believe that most of you have taken time to clearly read the OP.
Don't ask another person to do, what you're not willing to do yourself... To fully understand the meaning of this word COMPROMISE, I'll put it into the realms of sexual fantasy -- Pretty much every guy fantasizes about his wife or gf bringing home her best hottie friend, and going at it while we watch or take pictures, but are YOU first ready to bring your buddy home and do the same to him, while she kicks back w/ a camera..? :o
actually to make matters more difficult she has just brought up her "interest in women"....arrrrghhh!
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sidepull
Jul 8, 2006, 2:07 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: I have a friend who moved to Utah to go back to college. His wife owns his soul. She never lets him go climbing. Show your gf that you're in charge. As soon as she starts to see that she has control, you're screwed, kiss your rack and every opertunity for a road trip goodbye. Make sure you have sex one more time before you leave and make sure you're on top, only to further show you're in control, its just better that way. Unless you want to be you're wife's b---- untill you're 100, then go right ahead. Don't forget to pick her up and bodyslam her, chew her ear and growl loudly. Oh, and make sure she sees that you ALWAYS eat first. That always keeps the alpha established. Look, I've seen a lot of "OMG! relationship or climming??!!11" threads on this site. And I maintain that if you have to ask this on the internet, then you're not very good at at least one of the two.
Wow! Other than the comment that the OP is obviously a puss the only other things right with this thread are climbsomething's two conclusions:
1) anger is a great motivation within a relationship - 15,000 battered women can't be wrong (please see my thoughts on this topic on the other whiney thread currently in vogue here - "Help me - I've lost my motivation to boulder and shadows scare me and I also never stopped wetting . . .").
2) If you have to ask then either a) this is just bs and you've done a good job turning a non-issue into a 7 page virtual one b) you're too immature to be in said relationship by virtue of the fact that you're asking us for advice or c) both a and b your immature and the relationship isn't real. In that case (c) then go climbing - your imaginary girl friend will be there with you so that you can beat her and get motivated (unless beating is a coy way of self-pleasuring in which case you're ruining you hand strength for the climb).
Good luck in your decision!
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thespider
Jul 8, 2006, 2:33 AM
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Girlfriend=Climb
Wife=Don't Climb
It all depends on what her expectations of you are. If she says she wants you to go, she could be lying. But if she is a good girl, she won't lie. And if you are with her, you expect her to be a good girl. So if we can assume she would not lie, ask her, she know the best out of anyone. Either way, I would hope you would visit her in school. Good Luck!!
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androids
Jul 8, 2006, 2:34 AM
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In reply to: You are so full of s---. T5. Well done.
wtf?? you dont know me you dont know my girl , i guess youre assumptions are based on youre hard-core 5.5 leads on yam.
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squamishdirtbag
Jul 8, 2006, 3:17 AM
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wanker or cranker??
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climbsomething
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In reply to: 15,000 battered women can't be wrong
(I'll be here all week. Tip your waitresses people!)
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shanz
Jul 8, 2006, 3:36 AM
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Dude
I just kicked my guy off his PC so I could reply....That alone says something for his love for me...If you really love this girl and SHE "Really" loves you then you will feel free to climb and you two will endure.. climbing is a free spirited thing..It Is Not a Hobby But A Way Of Life.. and either you two share that or NOT... Only Time Will Tell...My Guy got me into climbing and we love it ....never leave a GREAT climbing partner ...but there is always something to be said about those who don't share the same passion..as it is said to me by friends who don't have a partner to climb with it is most difficult to find the "right one" to climb with...so Hun all I can say is follow your heart..climb on But be true to your heart..how ever it may lead you.
Climb on.your friend in understanding for the passion of climbing
ANGEL
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shanz
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Well thanksyou for a night of cotraversy - my better half stole the keys to make a post-- first of all if you are under 25 she may be a blip on the radar on the other hand my daughter who is 22 and has a good man she has been together with for 4 years says and i shall quote "if you are questioning this then you need a support group or need to grow up - if there is doubt in your mind then you have some serious issues" In otherwords if she is setting boundries on your relationship then you better find a better woman... Trust me i have had various relationships and it funny how the broken road led me straight to a climber and what i loved to do
As i have come up with in my infinite wisdom -- if you climb and she bails it was never meant to be -- if you send and she stays you will be together forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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shanz
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first let me say this ur all of 18 yrs old with the rest of ur life ahead of u. u r in a relationship with a GIRL and ur still a BOY not a man and woman. If climbing is something that will keep being a sourse of conflict and u cant learn to comprmise then u better think about where ur relationship is realy going. if u go on this expidition and u lose her will u look back in a few years and regret it badly and say she was the one that got away, of will she be another bump in the road. if climbing is going to be a life long passion then u should consider finding a WOMAN that can understand or share it. point blank grow up and figure this out on ur own there will never be anyone that can run ur life but u. this is a web site not ur personal relationship counsler the people here r climbers not ur MOTHER. btw this is shanzes daughter. and yes i am an ass.
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epsilon
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You might want to read "No Time To Cry" from Mark Twight's book "Kiss Or Kill". Because even though this isn't exactly the same as what's described in that article, if you break up with any girlfriend to go climbing, that's the direction you might be headed. Would you break up with someone you love to further your career as a climber? I know a lot of people hate Twight but he makes a good point here, one that affected me strongly.
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rockguide
Jul 8, 2006, 7:13 AM
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Six week expedition(?) to the Bugaboos?
The Bugaboos near Radium? The Bugaboos that are a couple hours run down to the car and a three or so hour drive back to the place where you (and presumably your girlfriend) live? The Bugaboos where you could turn a few rest or weather days into relationship/nookie days? Those Bugaboos?
Unless you are planning on hauling 6 weeks of supplies (thus no resupply trip to Radium) to the far side of the Howsers and dwelling exclusively in portaledges, you should be able to take a run out or she should be able to visit.
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ocean
Jul 8, 2006, 1:53 PM
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Screw the girl climbing will never leave you.
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In reply to: I would go climbing! just remeber to wear a helmet when you ask her for your nuts back :lol:
This is an awesome post! trophy for you!
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In reply to: Look, I've seen a lot of "OMG! relationship or climming??!!11" threads on this site. And I maintain that if you have to ask this on the internet, then you're not very good at at least one of the two.
awesome
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In reply to: Look, I've seen a lot of "OMG! relationship or climming??!!11" threads on this site. And I maintain that if you have to ask this on the internet, then you're not very good at at least one of the two.
It's too bad that we don't have some way to archive classic posts because this is arguably the best flame ever posted.
Jay
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curtis_g
Jul 8, 2006, 8:22 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Look, I've seen a lot of "OMG! relationship or climming??!!11" threads on this site. And I maintain that if you have to ask this on the internet, then you're not very good at at least one of the two. It's too bad that we don't have some way to archive classic posts because this is arguably the best flame ever posted. Jay
It takes my vote.
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Look, I've seen a lot of "OMG! relationship or climming??!!11" threads on this site. And I maintain that if you have to ask this on the internet, then you're not very good at at least one of the two. It's too bad that we don't have some way to archive classic posts because this is arguably the best flame ever posted. Jay It takes my vote.
Mine too, I think there is a vary valid point
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mr8615
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I could see this thread going down in history as one of the greatest trolls ever, but true or not, there is some awesome advice on here. The best way to form your own opinions about these things is to listen intently to what others would do and why and then deciding what makes the most sense to you.
PS. climbsomething's flame is so awesome! Profound and true, I love it.
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The mountains will always be there... wil she?
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Both.
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androids
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[quote="ocean"]Screw the girl climbing will never leave you.
i once said the same thing ... then i fell soloing ice , landed all the way in the hospital for 2 weeks ... climbing left me for dead.
im taking the trip, if shes not there when i get back im going climbing more.
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[quote="androids"]In reply to: Screw the girl climbing will never leave you. i once said the same thing ... then i fell soloing ice , landed all the way in the hospital for 2 weeks ... climbing left me for dead. im taking the trip, if shes not there when i get back im going climbing more. |
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androids, you lucky dog!!! You have the opportunity to spend SIX WEEKS in the Bugaboos? DO NOT PASS IT UP!
However, unless you are renting several porters and/or a chopper to haul in 42 days worth of food... you will have to make a trip or two out for supplies. Why don't you arrange to rendevouz with your sweetie in Radium, for a couple of days every few weeks, during your trip? Or perhaps you could convince her to come in for a portion of the time? Tell her to bring some good novels and her camera. Applebee campground is a nice place to lay around and read and snap photos. As well, the Kain Hut is usually brimming with interesting people - it is fun to meet them and join in if they are sitting around playing games or visiting. Alternatively, you could offer to take her somewhere or do something extra special with her during the two weeks you'll have prior to her leaving for school.
Anyhow, I say: do offer her some sort of compromise, and if she's not willing to work something out, then that is her choice to not see you for six weeks. Clearly, climbing is important to you, so someone who truly loves and understands you will still love you when you get back. Same as you will still love her after she returns from 3 months at school.
Cheers.
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In reply to: im taking the trip, if shes not there when i get back im going climbing more.
Well, good for you for taking the trip... But I hope you use more tact when relaying your decision to your girlfriend. Otherwise, I guarantee you'll have plenty more time to climb in your single life.
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In reply to: The mountains will always be there... wil she?
or you could say it like...
The mountains would never leave you for taking a six week vacation with your girlfriend...I think the mountains love you more.
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If she loves you she should support you and your dreams 8^)
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In reply to: Well, good for you for taking the trip... But I hope you use more tact when relaying your decision to your girlfriend. Otherwise, I guarantee you'll have plenty more time to climb in your single life. |
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In reply to: In reply to: Look, I've seen a lot of "OMG! relationship or climming??!!11" threads on this site. And I maintain that if you have to ask this on the internet, then you're not very good at at least one of the two. It's too bad that we don't have some way to archive classic posts because this is arguably the best flame ever posted. Jay
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=53467
Hils before clicking on this thread.
http://hillarydavis.com/images/hillbighead.jpg
Hils now!
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epic_ed
Jul 12, 2006, 2:57 AM
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Hil -- that first photo is disturbing enough, but why did you have to go and pull an alien transformation just to make your point? Creepy...still kinda hot, though.
And dude -- go climbing. Trust me.
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epic_ed
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Hil -- that first photo is disturbing enough, but why did you have to go and pull an alien transformation just to make your point? Creepy...still kinda hot, though.
And dude -- go climbing. Trust me.
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