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From http://smallwalling.blogspot.com/

I am allergic to the sun. Not biologically, but I just don't want to age more rapidly than I have to.

When I started climbing, doing it indoors was fun. I got to sweat in a controlled environment and show off my pretty branded clothes. I also got to watch people. It was enough for me.

Climbing outdoors was a different sport for a few reasons in my case. http://photos1.blogger.com/...uctant-climber.3.gif

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Whenever my partner dragged me to climb outdoors, I would be like, "hmm... do we have to do this?".

Climbing outdoors wasn't fun for me at all. I climbed in Castle Rock State Park, Tuolumne, Joshua Tree, and Pinnacles. I didn't enjoy the experience but somehow I persisted. I think I just didn't want to "lose out", heh heh. Maybe this is a trait of a reluctant climber?

The turning point for me in climbing outdoors began with the Great Red Books in Red Rocks. I had climbed for almost ten months up until that point. I enjoyed the second pitch of the route so much. The route was also my first official multi-pitch. When I topped out, I just felt different about climbing under the sun. Then I did Cat In The Hat. And then, Sunnyside Bench Regular Route in Yosemite, Zee Tree and West Crack in Tuolumne. I guess outdoor climbing isn't THAT BAD...

In retrospect, what my partner did was being very patient with me, and highly accepting of my city-girl bitching and moaning about sufferings. He was very understanding, encouraging and was very proud of me whenever I made a tiny step forward. I have also learned to trust my partner that if I were ever in trouble on a route, he would figure a way to get to me. So, if your city gal doesn't like to climb with you outdoors, don't blame her. Look at yourself in the mirror.


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Nice post. Glad you discovered the beauty of the outdoors.

:)

-F


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So, if your city gal doesn't like to climb with you outdoors, don't blame her. Look at yourself in the mirror.

Or just get a cooler girlfriend.


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Or hang a new Prada handbag from the anchors... :twisted:


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Nice post.
Too bad I already lost my city girl because I spent too much time outside.
I'm better off without her.


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I really feel sorry for the poor bastard who feels he has to drag you around. If he is reading...dump her now and save yourself from future misery with this life sucking person. :idea:


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what's wrong with "city gals?" I love City of Rocks!

oh, never mind.


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Yeah, I think I would dump you on the side of the road. My GF is also a climber and the rough hands suck but at least we get lots...and lots of tent time together, better then with your bros (wink,wink)


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I really feel sorry for the poor bastard who feels he has to drag you around. If he is reading...dump her now and save yourself from future misery with this life sucking person. :idea:

Yeah, I feel my man's pain too. He's a STAR.


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So, if your city gal doesn't like to climb with you outdoors, don't blame her. Look at yourself in the mirror.
with all due respect, i think the correct answer is, "it depends." like i know this girl who, you know, gets off at always getting the blame. like a foreplay thing. actually a total turn on for her. no means yes and all that. yeah, that kind of girl. i mean, sure, any therapist would tell you that's one unhealthy relationship. but i gotta tell ya, the sex is awesome! but, but i didn't write all this just to tell you that. no! what i'm trying to say is, yeah, go ahead and blame her. she might like it. blame her, for her


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Sheesh, talk about high-maintainance!

What's wrong with Castle Rock? A little crowded, but a nice place to practice sport-leads (especially for new leaders).

Don't like long approaches? Who the f*@k does!!! Usually it's worth it.

For 'him' to be that patient, you must be really worth it in the sack.


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Hey pinkgirl dont let these clowns get you down, at least you climb unlike these other trolls. All they do is sit on thier arses and put people down and wish they were climbing.


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Hey pinkgirl dont let these clowns get you down, at least you climb unlike these other trolls. All they do is sit on thier arses and put people down and wish they were climbing.

Yep, put down whiny 'feel-good' people and wish I was climbing.....I think you've nailed it


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When I started climbing, doing it indoors was fun. I got to sweat in a controlled environment and show off my pretty branded clothes. I also got to watch people. It was enough for me.
I'm an attention whore, and I must look good at all times. When I exert myself and look sloppy, I need to be able to run to the bathroom and primp, or just sit and sip my latte.

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Climbing outdoors wasn't fun for me at all.... I didn't enjoy the experience but somehow I persisted. I think I just didn't want to "lose out", heh heh. Maybe this is a trait of a reluctant climber?
I have found a new venue in which to get attention, but I haven't yet found out how to look good in said venue. Maybe I need to find a more experienced attention whore for some tips?

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The turning point for me in climbing outdoors began with the Great Red Books in Red Rocks.... When I topped out, I just felt different about climbing under the sun.
When no one else was around but my partner, I realized I didn't have to worry so much about looking good. Instead I could complain all I wanted without getting stared at by passers-by. That felt good.

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In retrospect, what my partner did was being very patient with me, and highly accepting of my city-girl b---- and moaning about sufferings. He was very understanding, encouraging and was very proud of me whenever I made a tiny step forward.
My partner is so p-whipped by me that he'll put up with my attitude. He gets very happy when I b*tch less and climb more.

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I have also learned to trust my partner that if I were ever in trouble on a route, he would figure a way to get to me.
If anything happens to my partner, we're completely f*cked.

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So, if your city gal doesn't like to climb with you outdoors, don't blame her.
... you only have yourself to blame... from the moment she started b*tching about how that last hike scuffed up her new trainers, you should've known better than to take her outdoors.

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Look at yourself in the mirror.
... and ask yourself, why the f*ck are you dating a "city gal"?


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When I started climbing, doing it indoors was fun. I got to sweat in a controlled environment and show off my pretty branded clothes. I also got to watch people. It was enough for me.
I'm an attention whore, and I must look good at all times. When I exert myself and look sloppy, I need to be able to run to the bathroom and primp, or just sit and sip my latte.

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Climbing outdoors wasn't fun for me at all.... I didn't enjoy the experience but somehow I persisted. I think I just didn't want to "lose out", heh heh. Maybe this is a trait of a reluctant climber?
I have found a new venue in which to get attention, but I haven't yet found out how to look good in said venue. Maybe I need to find a more experienced attention whore for some tips?

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The turning point for me in climbing outdoors began with the Great Red Books in Red Rocks.... When I topped out, I just felt different about climbing under the sun.
When no one else was around but my partner, I realized I didn't have to worry so much about looking good. Instead I could complain all I wanted without getting stared at by passers-by. That felt good.

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In retrospect, what my partner did was being very patient with me, and highly accepting of my city-girl b---- and moaning about sufferings. He was very understanding, encouraging and was very proud of me whenever I made a tiny step forward.
My partner is so p-whipped by me that he'll put up with my attitude. He gets very happy when I b*tch less and climb more.

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I have also learned to trust my partner that if I were ever in trouble on a route, he would figure a way to get to me.
If anything happens to my partner, we're completely f*cked.

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So, if your city gal doesn't like to climb with you outdoors, don't blame her.
... you only have yourself to blame... from the moment she started b*tching about how that last hike scuffed up her new trainers, you should've known better than to take her outdoors.

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Look at yourself in the mirror.
... and ask yourself, why the f*ck are you dating a "city gal"?


well done. :lol:


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Hey, keep it civil guys. This is completely uncalled for flaming against someone who posted up her journey to the outdoors.

She isn't your girlfriend so what do you care?

-F


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What I fail to understand is why would one wish to bring her climbing. I'm totally grateful mine lets me fish and climb without her. Sheeesh!!!! I see her enough already.


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I thought the Maestro summed it up pretty well. I think the OP needs to get over herself...


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And I thought this post was about your gf that didn't want to climb outside because of the dangerousness...iss.....


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Congrats on learning to love climbing and the outdoors, kudos for sticking with it.

This bothers me though, I'm cringing both as a climber and a woman:

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I have also learned to trust my partner that if I were ever in trouble on a route, he would figure a way to get to me.

From a climbing perspective, it sounds like you're not taking any responsibility for the safety of you and your partner. Great that you trust your partner... but don't you think you should know some basics of how to get yourself out of trouble? As a woman I read that and feel sad for poor helpless you, reliant on someone else to save you.


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Congrats on learning to love climbing and the outdoors, kudos for sticking with it.

This bothers me though, I'm cringing both as a climber and a woman:

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I have also learned to trust my partner that if I were ever in trouble on a route, he would figure a way to get to me.

From a climbing perspective, it sounds like you're not taking any responsibility for the safety of you and your partner. Great that you trust your partner... but don't you think you should know some basics of how to get yourself out of trouble? As a woman I read that and feel sad for poor helpless you, reliant on someone else to save you.

Yes, this is a very good point brought up by M-something and you. In fact, we'll be scheduling bailing exercises to make sure I do know what to do. Thank you for your concern and reminder to climbing safe. :)


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Keep learning, build your skills, keep having fun. Ignore the negative feedback.


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I agree with manacubus, ignore the negativity, excepting those things you can learn from. You probably should learn how to bail and how to lead and how to rescue and an infinite number of subtle and not so subtle things, but you shouldn't feel bad that you haven't done so yet. You should be proud, as the OP makes me think you are, that you've overcome your original mindset about climbing and grown beyond your old limitations. That is fantastic, and I'm very happy for you. Keep pushing yourself, and your partner.


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Thanks for all the encouragement. Will def keep climbing and climb SAFE. Still got much to learn for sure. But well, small steps, small steps...would be great if I can switch lead with my partner one day. Can't let the man do all the dirty work ;)

Heading to do a "mini-mini-wall" this weekend. Will get to jug 4 pitches and clean gear on traverse. May get my first experience sleeping on a portaledge. I just got my first wall spoon, hehe.

Negativity: what negativity? I just cried hours over them, bahaha. :lol:

(Am a blessed woman and I know it. Kisses to my climbing and life partner. He's AWESOME. And a prada at the anchor would be quite an incentive. :twisted: )


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When I started climbing, doing it indoors was fun. I got to sweat in a controlled environment and show off my pretty branded clothes. I also got to watch people. It was enough for me.
I'm an attention whore, and I must look good at all times. When I exert myself and look sloppy, I need to be able to run to the bathroom and primp, or just sit and sip my latte.

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Climbing outdoors wasn't fun for me at all.... I didn't enjoy the experience but somehow I persisted. I think I just didn't want to "lose out", heh heh. Maybe this is a trait of a reluctant climber?
I have found a new venue in which to get attention, but I haven't yet found out how to look good in said venue. Maybe I need to find a more experienced attention whore for some tips?

In reply to:
The turning point for me in climbing outdoors began with the Great Red Books in Red Rocks.... When I topped out, I just felt different about climbing under the sun.
When no one else was around but my partner, I realized I didn't have to worry so much about looking good. Instead I could complain all I wanted without getting stared at by passers-by. That felt good.

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In retrospect, what my partner did was being very patient with me, and highly accepting of my city-girl b---- and moaning about sufferings. He was very understanding, encouraging and was very proud of me whenever I made a tiny step forward.
My partner is so p-whipped by me that he'll put up with my attitude. He gets very happy when I b*tch less and climb more.

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I have also learned to trust my partner that if I were ever in trouble on a route, he would figure a way to get to me.
If anything happens to my partner, we're completely f*cked.

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So, if your city gal doesn't like to climb with you outdoors, don't blame her.
... you only have yourself to blame... from the moment she started b*tching about how that last hike scuffed up her new trainers, you should've known better than to take her outdoors.

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Look at yourself in the mirror.
... and ask yourself, why the f*ck are you dating a "city gal"?


very very well done. harsh, but very very well done.

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