Is that a Lock Nut holding the cams on the axle?



I'm just saying...

I have to say I'm worried about thier quality control...
Check out their blue "camalot" on the pic showing the set... the plate with the size on it, that holds the cams in place, is upsidedown.

I have no worries about the unit that Boku tested, I read that thread when it started, but the quality of one unit does not, in my mind, justify complete trust in an entire range.
You hit it right on the head "orientation of the lobe retaining plate is unimportant.", if something so arbitrary, and so blatantly OBVIOUS to the eye is ignored on the advertising photo, then I worry about the checks that go into the entire range.
Once when my older brother was young, he bought a "red rider" air rifle. it fell apart, and the cause was obvious; the people in the factory were lazy, and used their drill head to tighten the nuts onto the bolts without properly threading them first, thus stripping the threads. Does this guy do the same? who knows, certinly not me, and untill I could have complete confidance in the fact such shortcuts, or lazyness, does not take place, I would not trust that piece of gear.
another note on consistancy of quality:
did you see the thread where smoe dude used his truck to test his aliens? they were fucking bomb-proof, shattered the friggin granite. how about the one where the guy used his home testing kit to snap one way below it's rating?
the one Boku tested is fine, as is the one you are using, it would seem, however, I would not feel confidant that the one I recieved was.
Maybe I'm paranoid, or maybe I'm just smart, or maybe I'm a predudist dickhead who doesn't trust sat-state production quality. Who knows.
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-MagnuS

yup. what's wrong with that?

To be fair, though, if I had pull-testing kit, I'd buy a bunch, test them to half, and if they were A-OK (cool you can take them apart and check for straining on the failure point) then I'd climb over them happily, and at a good price, too.
Don't mind my earlier post, or any of my recent whingy dicking posts, I just broke my hand and can't climb for 3+ months. Not cool.

-MagnuS

What is the proper foot-lbs to keep it torqued to?

Is that a Lock Nut holding the cams on the axle?

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I'm just saying...

"Why is trad so much better than sport?"

Would you rather be 30 feet out from one of these or an Alien date stamped two months ago?

Depends... Was the Alien also stamped "Tensile Tested" on both the swage and the braze->head?

gear doesn't need to be pretty, it just needs to be strong and work as advertised. BD C4s >are real pretty, but you are defeintely paying for some of that prettyness. the main >difference between KROK (sold thru petrenkoworld) cams and BD is that KROK has no >reputation in the climbing world, and is being judged on appearance.

"my first fall EVER!!!!"

However, I do remember being somewhat surprised at finding the nut to be threaded 10-32 with about an 8mm wrench size on the outside hex. Not that that's an extremely rare combination, I see that size a lot on bicycle brake handles. I just didn't expect to see it on climbing gear from eastern Europe.

Thanks, Bob "BoKu" K.

I see your point, though I think the Red Rider air rifle analogy has vy little to do with KROK cam quality, really...

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I think there's more to the paranoia than just paranoia. Most of us aren't engineers with test facilities. So we make our choices based on trust. That trust has to be earned, somehow..