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dr_feelgood
Jan 22, 2008, 2:49 AM
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PTFTW!!!
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dr_feelgood
Jan 22, 2008, 2:49 AM
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yeah.
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kachoong
Jan 22, 2008, 3:12 AM
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microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: microbarn wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: microbarn wrote: I never hear of people traveling to WV for ice. Not ice, rock. Though my friend reportedly found some this weekend. I'm used to driving 4-5 hours each weekend...8 is kinda pushing it. That's what I was bitching about  yea, I know rock is what most people go for, but I know of at least one or two places that SHOULD form up at the NRG. Sure, it won't be as good as the dacs, but it seems like there should be some ice somewhere in that state this weekend. It would be cool for the novelty. That would be a bit far to drive for us for something as fickle WV ice though. What makes you think it would form? Ice formation is weird. A lot of places you think it would won't. Water seeping out of the rock then flowing down the face before dripping off into space is good. The flow has to be right to. To heavy and it needs to get super cold to start the formation. To light and it will lock up in the rock. Since I knew I was not expecting to come back, I didn't take strict notes, but my memory is: The first place was slightly sunny and straight vertical to slabby, but the whole wall had water leaking down the side at varying rates. So, as long as the sun doesn't kill it, one of the areas probably formed at least one climb. On nice long cold spells I could have believed the whole wall would freeze. No place on the wall had waterfall type of flow. The second place was shaded and fully overhanging. It had less water overall, but it was pretty constant too. Something tells me it would have difficulty forming because you would have to wait until it touched down to do anything. (I think there were climbs on the overhung part. So, mixed climbing is probably a no-go.) I think one was at Kaymoor and the other at Endless. I forget though. Then there are other places like the down climb ladder of summersville to orange oswald and Kaymoor where there are waterfalls that may form a route on the sides. If the waterfall at orange oswald is the only thing forming up it might not be worth the hike though. I remember it being pretty short for a climb. It would be more like ice bouldering. I don't know. I have a very hard time believing that in all of the NRG something doesn't form up. Perhaps it would turn out to be shit since it would be easy to access.
Dbrayack has some good evidence of ice at NRG... check out J_ung on this ice.
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snoopy138
Jan 22, 2008, 3:13 AM
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artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: Us homebred locals do call it "the mountain" You guys call it a mountain because you have never seen real mountains. In reply to: We live up on the niagara escarpment (preserved biosphere) but it is not even close to a real mountain. It does make the city interesting though because all the roads have to be built up the escarpment. And the weather is different up here than it is down below. Here's some facts for you (I know how MB likes the facts) The Niagara Escarpment Biosphere Reserve is situated in the Canadian province of Ontario. The biosphere reserve stretches 725 km from Lake Ontario (near Niagara Falls) to the tip of the Bruce Peninsula (between Georgian Bay and Lake Huron). Much of the Escarpment corridor is forested and crosses two major biomes: boreal needle leaf forests in the north and temperate broadleaf forests in the south. The biosphere reserve also includes wetland complexes, cliff faces, slopes and aquatic ecosystems. It also helps fuck access.  The Biosphere reserve BS that is. I grew up in colorado I laughed my ass off at the people in phoenix who call a molehill "camelback mountain"
I haven't seen camelback mountain. but rounded, green hills that rise to 5000 ft. are not mountains.
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snoopy138
Jan 22, 2008, 3:17 AM
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epoch wrote: artm wrote: epoch wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: Us homebred locals do call it "the mountain" You guys call it a mountain because you have never seen real mountains. In reply to: We live up on the niagara escarpment (preserved biosphere) but it is not even close to a real mountain. It does make the city interesting though because all the roads have to be built up the escarpment. And the weather is different up here than it is down below. Here's some facts for you (I know how MB likes the facts) The Niagara Escarpment Biosphere Reserve is situated in the Canadian province of Ontario. The biosphere reserve stretches 725 km from Lake Ontario (near Niagara Falls) to the tip of the Bruce Peninsula (between Georgian Bay and Lake Huron). Much of the Escarpment corridor is forested and crosses two major biomes: boreal needle leaf forests in the north and temperate broadleaf forests in the south. The biosphere reserve also includes wetland complexes, cliff faces, slopes and aquatic ecosystems. It also helps fuck access. The Biosphere reserve BS that is. I grew up in colorado I laughed my ass off at the people in phoenix who call a molehill "camelback mountain" Art, I have a very similar reaction to those who are from out here. I rode a chair on Saturday with a couple who thought that the 4,000 ish foot peak that we were skiing on was BIG. I came off as quite pretentious, and didn't care. They were afraid of my large... Skis. well the sierra nevada range isn't bad but the rockies still kick ass The Sierra s are taller... 200 x 60 miles of un-roaded wilderness. Isn't too bad either.
this is correct.
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dr_feelgood
Jan 22, 2008, 3:24 AM
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kachoong wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: microbarn wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: microbarn wrote: I never hear of people traveling to WV for ice. Not ice, rock. Though my friend reportedly found some this weekend. I'm used to driving 4-5 hours each weekend...8 is kinda pushing it. That's what I was bitching about yea, I know rock is what most people go for, but I know of at least one or two places that SHOULD form up at the NRG. Sure, it won't be as good as the dacs, but it seems like there should be some ice somewhere in that state this weekend. It would be cool for the novelty. That would be a bit far to drive for us for something as fickle WV ice though. What makes you think it would form? Ice formation is weird. A lot of places you think it would won't. Water seeping out of the rock then flowing down the face before dripping off into space is good. The flow has to be right to. To heavy and it needs to get super cold to start the formation. To light and it will lock up in the rock. Since I knew I was not expecting to come back, I didn't take strict notes, but my memory is: The first place was slightly sunny and straight vertical to slabby, but the whole wall had water leaking down the side at varying rates. So, as long as the sun doesn't kill it, one of the areas probably formed at least one climb. On nice long cold spells I could have believed the whole wall would freeze. No place on the wall had waterfall type of flow. The second place was shaded and fully overhanging. It had less water overall, but it was pretty constant too. Something tells me it would have difficulty forming because you would have to wait until it touched down to do anything. (I think there were climbs on the overhung part. So, mixed climbing is probably a no-go.) I think one was at Kaymoor and the other at Endless. I forget though. Then there are other places like the down climb ladder of summersville to orange oswald and Kaymoor where there are waterfalls that may form a route on the sides. If the waterfall at orange oswald is the only thing forming up it might not be worth the hike though. I remember it being pretty short for a climb. It would be more like ice bouldering. I don't know. I have a very hard time believing that in all of the NRG something doesn't form up. Perhaps it would turn out to be shit since it would be easy to access. Dbrayack has some good evidence of ice at NRG... check out J_ung on this ice. [image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/0/308560-largest_Junkyard_Ice_046.jpg[/image]
I have photo evidence of J_Eff on ice. Will post some tomorrow. Maybe.
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snoopy138
Jan 22, 2008, 3:29 AM
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snoopy138 wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: Us homebred locals do call it "the mountain" You guys call it a mountain because you have never seen real mountains. In reply to: We live up on the niagara escarpment (preserved biosphere) but it is not even close to a real mountain. It does make the city interesting though because all the roads have to be built up the escarpment. And the weather is different up here than it is down below. Here's some facts for you (I know how MB likes the facts) The Niagara Escarpment Biosphere Reserve is situated in the Canadian province of Ontario. The biosphere reserve stretches 725 km from Lake Ontario (near Niagara Falls) to the tip of the Bruce Peninsula (between Georgian Bay and Lake Huron). Much of the Escarpment corridor is forested and crosses two major biomes: boreal needle leaf forests in the north and temperate broadleaf forests in the south. The biosphere reserve also includes wetland complexes, cliff faces, slopes and aquatic ecosystems. It also helps fuck access. The Biosphere reserve BS that is. I grew up in colorado I laughed my ass off at the people in phoenix who call a molehill "camelback mountain" I haven't seen camelback mountain. but rounded, green hills that rise to 5000 ft. are not mountains.
5000 ft. is very generous for the EC.
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 11:48 AM
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snoopy138 wrote: define "west coast choss"? there's sandstone in Santa Barbara, a couple hours away, I've heard it's decent. Tick Rock is sandstone (15 minutes from my apt), though it probably qualifies as "west coast choss". Red Rocks, stuff in Arizona, etc.
RR=WCC
Not that it isn't fun choss.
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 11:49 AM
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snoopy138 wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Going to the cats tomorrow and monday. Gunna be cold. You is gonna freeze your balls off. good times doc! Don't forget your camera! It was cold out at the Bridge today. Hopefully we will have some climbable ice soon. by now there is ice formed up at the PA spots. I am surprised you don't have something somewhere in the mountains Mountains? It just got cold here the other day. We swung by the place close to home and it was still a long way from having anything solid enough to get on. All the ice there is hanging so it needs some time to get big enough that you don't knock it all down while trying to climb it. The 403 probably has some stuff, but not enough to drive all the way out there. Ice can form quick if the rock is already frozen but it has been so warm the ground had probably lost a lot of its frost. I doubt PA has much in the way of climbable ice yet. No mountains around you? That explains your recent road trip. It has been "very" cold here for around 5 days. I think it is expected to stay cold through the rest of this week. If there isn't ice yet, it should be close to forming. Well yeah we have mountains. Just right out the back door of our cabin. As soon as I'm done chopping wood today I'll try and take some pictures. I'll see If I can get a picture of an igloo too.  a while back you were telling okel to check the gullies off of a road for ice. Gullies cannot happen without some kind of incline. I guess you are saying there isn't enough incline, then? a 50 ft. road cut is not a mountain, retard.
Its 60'-70'.
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microbarn
Jan 22, 2008, 11:51 AM
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dr_feelgood wrote: microbarn wrote: I got this coming in the mail. Should be fun to play with. [image]http://dailyclimber.com/system/assets/product_images/0000/0204/kongshockabsorber.jpg?1200271781[/image] Why?
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microbarn
Jan 22, 2008, 11:52 AM
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dr_feelgood wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: Yo Nate, are you aware that you are from Ontario, England? (I was wondering about the "pish posh" above) It's cold today in DC. You guys should have ice soon, methinks. I'm afraid I know all to well. [image]http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:nO23tjrH63f76M:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Flag_of_Ontario.svg/800px-Flag_of_Ontario.svg.png[/image] On top of a British flag its Queen this and Queen that. Someday, hopefully they change it by then, I'll have to swear allegiance to the Queen when I become a Canadian Citizen. It just got cold here on Friday. There should be something this weekend. I'm hoping that we can hit our close to home spot Wed. or Thurs. I don't know if the ice will be ready yet there though. I've seen the one route form up in two days, but the rock was already pretty frozen and it got very cold. That route takes the least amount of ice to climb the route. All the others it needs to be big enough to climb up and have it not fall down. It would suck to knock down a well forming drip making have to start over. Or have it fall on us. it will be up to 8 or 9 days of cold by this weekend, but only 2-3 days were below 20. Snow is due Tuesday and Thursday. We should be able to get out to xc skiing. woot Cross country skiing.... Yaaaaaawwwwnnnn
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 11:56 AM
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microbarn wrote: The second place was shaded and fully overhanging. It had less water overall, but it was pretty constant too. Something tells me it would have difficulty forming because you would have to wait until it touched down to do anything. (I think there were climbs on the overhung part. So, mixed climbing is probably a no-go.)
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:02 PM
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microbarn wrote: it will be up to 8 or 9 days of cold by this weekend, but only 2-3 days were below 20. Snow is due Tuesday and Thursday. We should be able to get out to xc skiing. woot
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chossmonkey
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microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: granite_grrl wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Going to the cats tomorrow and monday. Gunna be cold. You is gonna freeze your balls off. good times doc! Don't forget your camera! It was cold out at the Bridge today. Hopefully we will have some climbable ice soon. Christ, it was cold!!! And I don't think either Nathan or I dressed quite warm enough. The wind was what killed it. I made a good call to stay home and do laundry and housework then  Yeah, but you missed your chance to try out your cold weather clothing system. You need to bring your boots over this week so we can try some crampons on them. I think we have a set that will work. Thats the problem I don't really have a cold weather clothing system. And thursday is the tentative night. I will bring the boots And the videos. What time are you coming over? We might quick sneak out after Bec gets done with work for a short bit. If there is climbable ice. did you get out?
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:05 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: chossmonkey wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: My drytool training thingy i built is becoming a mixed training thingy. I'm going to go pile up more snow to see if i can make a pickable icicle. Why not grab the garden hose and hook it up in a tree? Pipes might freeze.
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:07 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: chossmonkey wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Going to the cats tomorrow and monday. Gunna be cold. You is gonna freeze your balls off. good times doc! Don't forget your camera! It was cold out at the Bridge today. Hopefully we will have some climbable ice soon. by now there is ice formed up at the PA spots. I am surprised you don't have something somewhere in the mountains Mountains? It just got cold here the other day. We swung by the place close to home and it was still a long way from having anything solid enough to get on. All the ice there is hanging so it needs some time to get big enough that you don't knock it all down while trying to climb it. The 403 probably has some stuff, but not enough to drive all the way out there. Ice can form quick if the rock is already frozen but it has been so warm the ground had probably lost a lot of its frost. I doubt PA has much in the way of climbable ice yet. No mountains around you? That explains your recent road trip. It has been "very" cold here for around 5 days. I think it is expected to stay cold through the rest of this week. If there isn't ice yet, it should be close to forming. Well yeah we have mountains. Just right out the back door of our cabin. As soon as I'm done chopping wood today I'll try and take some pictures. I'll see If I can get a picture of an igloo too. Get all those cute little sled dogs in the picture too!
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:08 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: chossmonkey wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: snoopy138 wrote: chossmonkey wrote: snoopy138 wrote: chossmonkey wrote: Mountains? Maybe he meant the rockies? Maybe. What are the closest mountains to you? (east coast USA hills don't count) Quebec. I was GU. I thought he was trying to imply there were no mountains on all of the east coast. We are a long way from the East Coast. The real east coast. Japan?
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chossmonkey
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dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: I have a mandolin for chopping up vegetables in the kitchen.  Thats cool. I need one of those They are handy. But can't beat skill and a good knife.
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:12 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: I painted a closet in the army once. Couldn't walk straight from all the fumes for a while after that. Damn did it look good tho.
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:13 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Hope doc is taking some good pictures. Wonder if he got avalanched on again Not so many good pics... No avalanches to the face either. I actually only got to climb one pitch per day. Kind of disappointed, but it happens.
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:14 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: Went climbing sunday and today. Sunday tried to find a climb usually led from the top. Did not work so well, but were able to get on something. Had to rig a superman anchor with 40' extensions. Today, belayed a bail job on a WI4 that the guy wasn't comfortable with. Was kinda brittle. Cracks forming on ice he was climbing, so we rigged something.
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:17 PM
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kachoong wrote: microbarn wrote: chossmonkey wrote: microbarn wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: microbarn wrote: I never hear of people traveling to WV for ice. Not ice, rock. Though my friend reportedly found some this weekend. I'm used to driving 4-5 hours each weekend...8 is kinda pushing it. That's what I was bitching about yea, I know rock is what most people go for, but I know of at least one or two places that SHOULD form up at the NRG. Sure, it won't be as good as the dacs, but it seems like there should be some ice somewhere in that state this weekend. It would be cool for the novelty. That would be a bit far to drive for us for something as fickle WV ice though. What makes you think it would form? Ice formation is weird. A lot of places you think it would won't. Water seeping out of the rock then flowing down the face before dripping off into space is good. The flow has to be right to. To heavy and it needs to get super cold to start the formation. To light and it will lock up in the rock. Since I knew I was not expecting to come back, I didn't take strict notes, but my memory is: The first place was slightly sunny and straight vertical to slabby, but the whole wall had water leaking down the side at varying rates. So, as long as the sun doesn't kill it, one of the areas probably formed at least one climb. On nice long cold spells I could have believed the whole wall would freeze. No place on the wall had waterfall type of flow. The second place was shaded and fully overhanging. It had less water overall, but it was pretty constant too. Something tells me it would have difficulty forming because you would have to wait until it touched down to do anything. (I think there were climbs on the overhung part. So, mixed climbing is probably a no-go.) I think one was at Kaymoor and the other at Endless. I forget though. Then there are other places like the down climb ladder of summersville to orange oswald and Kaymoor where there are waterfalls that may form a route on the sides. If the waterfall at orange oswald is the only thing forming up it might not be worth the hike though. I remember it being pretty short for a climb. It would be more like ice bouldering. I don't know. I have a very hard time believing that in all of the NRG something doesn't form up. Perhaps it would turn out to be shit since it would be easy to access. Dbrayack has some good evidence of ice at NRG... check out J_ung on this ice.
Sweet shit!!!
That looks pretty good. I'm sure their season is shorter than our two months.
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snoopy138 wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: Us homebred locals do call it "the mountain" You guys call it a mountain because you have never seen real mountains. In reply to: We live up on the niagara escarpment (preserved biosphere) but it is not even close to a real mountain. It does make the city interesting though because all the roads have to be built up the escarpment. And the weather is different up here than it is down below. Here's some facts for you (I know how MB likes the facts) The Niagara Escarpment Biosphere Reserve is situated in the Canadian province of Ontario. The biosphere reserve stretches 725 km from Lake Ontario (near Niagara Falls) to the tip of the Bruce Peninsula (between Georgian Bay and Lake Huron). Much of the Escarpment corridor is forested and crosses two major biomes: boreal needle leaf forests in the north and temperate broadleaf forests in the south. The biosphere reserve also includes wetland complexes, cliff faces, slopes and aquatic ecosystems. It also helps fuck access. The Biosphere reserve BS that is. I grew up in colorado I laughed my ass off at the people in phoenix who call a molehill "camelback mountain" I haven't seen camelback mountain. but rounded, green hills that rise to 5000 ft. are not mountains.
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chossmonkey
Jan 22, 2008, 12:20 PM
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snoopy138 wrote: 5000 ft. is very generous for the EC.
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dr_feelgood wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Going to the cats tomorrow and monday. Gunna be cold. You is gonna freeze your balls off. good times doc! Don't forget your camera! It was cold out at the Bridge today. Hopefully we will have some climbable ice soon. Seven days out this season so far.
Beatz my 3.
They were good days though.
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Re: [dr_feelgood] pulling a brent_e
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