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superory
Nov 20, 2008, 1:28 AM
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i was reading through some old threads and trip reports and i came to the realization that some people that still seem to lead normal lives (read: not living in their car) climb a lot! So i was wondering what it is that everyone does to be able to make a living and climb so much??!?! do you hide bodies??? grow drugs??? sell pancakes??? what is everyones money making method of chioce that still allows them to climb as much as they want?
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brownie710
Nov 20, 2008, 1:33 AM
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great question. I'm a mental health therapist so I'm pretty much a weekend warrior. It seems it is a trade off, my buddy climbs every day and is a total rock star, he bounces, bartends, and drinks. No large sums of cash or stability but lots of climbing.
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ACJ
Nov 20, 2008, 2:04 AM
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I teach people to climb.
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rockie
Nov 20, 2008, 2:19 AM
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Health care profession and about 5 employers rather than 1 full time one, so I can suit myself and go where I want, when I want more so this way. I still work full time effectively so the pay is the same; if not better. After a year of not being able to have leave, or see long term friends - then falling ill at the end of it when my first leave came as I'd expected would happen, due to burn out, shift work, and working full time. I am not allowing that to happen again. Live first, work later, and that includes making time for friends, thankfully I still have all mine. So, in other words: Work to live not live to work.
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rtwilli4
Nov 20, 2008, 6:16 AM
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superory wrote: grow drugs??? ;)
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hosh
Nov 20, 2008, 6:56 AM
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I work in a secured facility with Juvenile offenders. My official job title is "Juvenile Justice Officer, level III". Sounds official (and to a degree, it is), but it's not all that glorious. I do get to use hand cuffs... hosh.
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rockie
Nov 20, 2008, 8:27 AM
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I've used hand cuffs too, but not for your type of job, not for any job.
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a-e-jones
Nov 20, 2008, 11:56 AM
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wouldn't it be sweet if you were a part of the canadian senate, you work like 20 days a year and get six figure salaries and i bartend
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zealotnoob
Nov 20, 2008, 1:29 PM
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Construction management in DC. No time but nights at the gym and one or two weekends out a month. Need more. If your work allows plenty of time for climbing, post up! We need ideas.
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blueeyedclimber
Nov 20, 2008, 1:40 PM
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a-e-jones wrote: wouldn't it be sweet if you were a part of the canadian senate, you work like 20 days a year and get six figure salaries and i bartend ...or the President of the United States of America. http://www.chron.com/...n/mason/5042364.html I am a teacher, so technically I get summers off, but I always work to supplement my income. Although, it's not very hard work. I help to run an outdoor climbing camp for kids. I am mostly a weekend warrior, but take long holiday weekends and a full week vacation every summer. Josh
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markc
Nov 20, 2008, 2:33 PM
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This has definitely come up before - a search may give even more options. A friend is a physical therapist in Colorado. He has a four-day work week, and has climbing within a few minutes of his house. He's able to get a quick burn after work, and has a three-day weekend. That's pretty sweet. Teachers get the summer break, plus some good time off around certain holidays. That said, if you're just in it for the breaks you're going to burn out. My former sister-in-law worked as a traveling nurse. The signing bonuses were usually substantial, and you're able to move around quite a bit. If you manage your money well, taking breaks between gigs should be manageable. I think where you live and how you structure your free time has a lot to do with it. If you're close to climbing, you can get out after work. If you're willing to devote all of your weekends and vacation time to climbing, you can get a lot of climbing in. If you're like me, demands like work and parenthood often limit climbing time. Last night, I did flip through the Yosemite Free Climbs book with my two-year-old. You know, just planting the seed.
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hosh
Nov 20, 2008, 7:21 PM
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Yeah, between work and family, I have a hard time getting things going. I do make it to the local gym often enough, but not for me. My 2 y/o son does the climbing... hosh.
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superory
Nov 20, 2008, 7:35 PM
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a-e-jones wrote: wouldn't it be sweet if you were a part of the canadian senate, you work like 20 days a year and get six figure salaries and i bartend New life goal: Step 1. Move to Canada. Step 2. Become Canadian Senator. Step 3. Climb 345 days a year. Step 4.???????? Step 5. Profit!!
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Gmburns2000
Nov 20, 2008, 7:35 PM
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work a 9-5 in healthcare, but I get earned time off given to me in a pool instead of specific days that I have to take. I take nearly no days off between Jan and May, and earn over 20 hours per month. So when summer rolls around, I've got a few weeks to play with, and play with them I do. i.e. - weekend warrior with summer flex days off
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thatguyat99
Nov 20, 2008, 9:34 PM
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I'm an ER Tech so I am scheduled for 3 days a week. Usually I work a 4th day for overtime but that still gives me 3 days off a week. Plus I make my schedule for the most part.
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rockie
Nov 20, 2008, 10:01 PM
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a-e-jones wrote: wouldn't it be sweet if you were a part of the canadian senate, you work like 20 days a year and get six figure salaries and i bartend I hear if you're a dirty RCMP, or just in the police force, you get paid ridiculous amounts. All that for getting to taser innocent people.. nice!
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altelis
Nov 20, 2008, 10:05 PM
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i used to be an undergrad philosophy student- climbed more than i should have then i became a bar tender after graduating and skied/climbed/biked at least 4 days/wk (usually 6) then i became a graduate student and i climb 1-2x a week in the GYM if i'm LUCKY (didn't get in any climbing the last 2.5 wks) my outdoor climbing for this semester (that started in AUGUST) was a 1/4 day of top-roping
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rockie
Nov 20, 2008, 10:05 PM
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markc wrote: This has definitely come up before - a search may give even more options. A friend is a physical therapist in Colorado. He has a four-day work week, and has climbing within a few minutes of his house. He's able to get a quick burn after work, and has a three-day weekend. That's pretty sweet. I think where you live and how you structure your free time has a lot to do with it. If you're close to climbing, you can get out after work. If you're willing to devote all of your weekends and vacation time to climbing, you can get a lot of climbing in. I'd agree with that. Having the flexibility, a job that pays enough to afford you the time off, and being close to a climbing area, are all factors for allowing time to get climbing in.
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jbroom
Nov 20, 2008, 10:19 PM
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I've been a travel nurse with my girlfriend for a bit now and it's gotta be one of the better jobs for climbing opportunities. We look on our company's website for jobs in areas around the country that would be good for weather and climbing(currently we kinda f-ed up cause we are in southern Montana until January). Take a three month contract at that place and work six says on eight days off. After that three month assignment take 1-2 months off to travel/climb then take another assignment. No complaints here.
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yokese
Nov 20, 2008, 11:01 PM
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If anyone is interested on working an insane number of hours for a ludicrously low salary, I'd highly suggest to start a career in academic science... ah, you'd need a PhD and most probably 2 to 4 years of postdoctoral training. Welcome....
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jmeizis
Nov 21, 2008, 12:01 AM
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I'm a rock guide during the summer and the rest of the time I'm working at a climbing gym as a desk monkey. Pays not the greatest but there hasn't been a day since I started both these jobs that I haven't been able to climb if I didn't want to. It helps that I live in Colorado.
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Valarc
Nov 21, 2008, 12:16 AM
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yokese wrote: If anyone is interested on working an insane number of hours for a ludicrously low salary, I'd highly suggest to start a career in academic science... ah, you'd need a PhD and most probably 2 to 4 years of postdoctoral training. Welcome.... Yeah, I'm getting the hell out of the academic world ASAP. I love research, but for the amount of education I've got and the hours I put in, it's just not worth it. My plan is to go into a teaching-only academic job. The pay will suck, but it will be fulfilling (I love to teach) and have lots of time off. The status of research in this country - the politics, bureaucracy, and lack of funding, are such a turn off that it sucks all of the fun out of science. I'm thinking i might not even go into the full-time employee role, but rather do some adjunct teaching for a few years. My girlfriend has the potential to move around pretty much wherever she wants for her job, so we've considered traveling the country for a bit before we settle down.
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churningindawake
Nov 21, 2008, 12:28 AM
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Go to school.
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superory
Nov 21, 2008, 4:29 AM
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meahtots
Nov 21, 2008, 5:09 AM
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whoa there. i think what he is trying to say is:
churningindawake wrote: {I} Go to school. but of course I could be wrong
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