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Does anyone have suggestions for real camping food. By good I mean, fresh, not canned meals. I will be camping for two weeks. I think there's a grocery store within a reasonable distance. I don't want to eat all of my meals packed with preservatives, additives and junk. Any real food/ meal suggestions?

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elizaclimb wrote:
Does anyone have suggestions for real camping food. By good I mean, fresh, not canned meals. I will be camping for two weeks. I think there's a grocery store within a reasonable distance. I don't want to eat all of my meals packed with preservatives, additives and junk. Any real food/ meal suggestions?

Thanks.

Fish, rice, and beans.


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Thanks. It's the simplest foods that often overlooked. Now I'm psyched for fishing.


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Cavemen didn't have preservatives in their food either. How long did they live?


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Ground beef patty, sliced onions, sliced potatoes. Wrap in foil with some salt, pepper, and a dab of butter. Place on grate over fire. Turn after 10 minutes or so. 30 minutes later, open, and enjoy.


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My wife and I generally camp for 5-7 days, and our menu consists of:

-Diced steak marinated in soy sauce and brown suggar, cooked with dices potatoes and onions. (This meal we generally eat within the first few days)

-Spaghetti with fresh Italian Sausage, peppers, onions, etc, on wheat pasta. (This also prepared within the first few days)

-Chili Mac

-Tuna Helper


The steak is cubed and put into a tupperware container with soy sauce and brown sugar at home, then kept in the cooler until prepared.


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Check out a river running site. Every time I've been on the Grand I've gained weight. 12 days out of ice chests and we were still having steaks and grilled asperagus and baking pinapple upside down cake in the dutch oven.


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traddad wrote:
baking pinapple upside down cake in the dutch oven.

I've been meaning to try my hand at that.

Having a dutch oven and the accessories thereof certainly does open a lot of possibilities. Soups, breakfast casseroles, chili, etc.


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I have no idea how long you're planning on being out or the style of camping you'll be doing so take my advice with a grain of salt.

I have found that by dehydrating my own food (meat, cooked pasta, beans, ect) I'm able to make a variety of tasty meals that you only need to add boiling water to. Keep in mind that this is for backpacking trips lasting 5-15 days.

beans
potato flakes
granola
cous cous
fish
chicken
pita bread
pastas
dried soup mixes

Check out your local version of a Whole Foods Co-Op where you can buy various healthy dried bulk foods.


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I haven't lived my dream yet.


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I'm going to Yosemite for two weeks. I have never been there but I've heard it is like a city. I'm trying to get an idea of what stove/cooking gear to buy also. I don't camp often and don't plan to in the future so I don't want to make a big investment. Likely I will try to borrow equipment. I'm happy to hear that climbers that camp care about food. What are food/ cooking essentials for a trip like this. I'll be cooking for myself and sometimes with other people.

Thanks for all of your suggestions and for being nice :)


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haha - true I was on the "caveman diet" for a month, felt super healthy and happy! It's a challenge to find food that isn't processed.


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chadnsc wrote:
I have no idea how long you're planning on being out or the style of camping you'll be doing so take my advice with a grain of salt.

I have found that by dehydrating my own food (meat, cooked pasta, beans, ect) I'm able to make a variety of tasty meals that you only need to add boiling water to. Keep in mind that this is for backpacking trips lasting 5-15 days.

beans
potato flakes
granola
cous cous
fish
chicken
pita bread
pastas
dried soup mixes

Check out your local version of a Whole Foods Co-Op where you can buy various healthy dried bulk foods.

I did a bunch of that when I spent a month on the AT. The meat never really rehydrated all that well but everything else worked great.

A bit time consuming up front but cheap and easy.


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If you're car camping and have access to ice get a good cooler and 2 burner propane stove. Cook whatever you would cook at home.

If you have to carry it think of meals that have carbs you boil in water (pasta, rice, couscous etc.). Design meals that can be made in one pot or in a pot with pan fried stuff.

Our latest favourite is pasta with sauteed peppers, sausage and onions in pesto.

Instant oatmeal is a standard breakfast although I'm pretty sick of them these days.


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Yeah with dehydrating meat it works best to use meat that has been pressured cooked. All of the canned or packaged meat (turkey, chicken, ham, and tuna) is pressure cooked. You just have to look for low sodium products though.

I myself pressure cook all of my own meat for use on the trail, chicken, turkey, and venison. I don't dehydrate my own hamburger though as it's very, very hard to get that stuff dried properly so it rehydrates well. My advice if you want use hamburger spend the money and buy some good freeze dried stuff.


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Whatever happened to a pound of flour and a handful of ammo?


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What you going to blind the chipmunks with the flour and throw the ammo at 'em?


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chadnsc wrote:
Yeah with dehydrating meat it works best to use meat that has been pressured cooked.

Interesting, I'll definitely try the pressure cooked meat next time. Thanks.

The only pre-prepared item I bought in bulk was freeze dried scrambled eggs. I was pretty damn skeptical but they weren't too bad actually.


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My wife and I, and others, usually totalling 4-6, have camped in Yosemite for between 7 and 9 days on multiple occasions.

We had a lot of food, but most of it was dry and canned. Mac and Cheese to mix with canned chili, Tuna Helper and LOTs of tuna, other fresh foods listed in my initial post, including freash deli meats for sandwhiches, and lots of bread. All high in protein and complex carbs for fuel to burn on the walls all day.

We did well with a 2 burner Coleman stove, and 2 large Coolers. The only thing we needed to reup and buy was ice (twice), and milk (once) as freash water is easy to come by.


Some more tips... We also made lots of "Cheap-O-Rade", which is just Kool-Aid mixed 1/3rd strength with a dash or salt (1/4 tsp per gallon). We made this in half gallon Gatorade Jugs that were slung with webbing, so we all had plenty to hydrate with during the day. These were made at night, and put into the coolers so they were cold by morning.

Also, a stove top espresso maker is the bomb for morning Mochas or Americanos... Grind the beans before leaving, and some cans/tins of Mocha Mix by International Foods or equivelant, and your good. And, you can even add a little ice for an iced mocha.


We generally packed all the dry foods at home, cubed the steak with sauce as per my last reply, then bought all the cold stuff and ice in Bishop on the way up, as we lived in Long Beach, and came up Rt 395, through Lee Vining and into Tuolumne.




Good luck, and have fun.

We also preffered to camp at Yosemite Creek, which is about half way between the Vallery and the Meadows, as we preffered a more relaxed atmosphere, less bugs, and we spent equal time in Tuolumne, if that matters.


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No one's listed beer yet.


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uhoh wrote:
No one's listed beer yet.
I don't drink... My wife is the designated drinker.

While she drinks beer, she prefers wine. Wink


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rrrADAM wrote:
uhoh wrote:
No one's listed beer yet.
I don't drink... My wife is the designated drinker.

While she drinks beer, she prefers wine. Wink

That's a good call. Not drinking, that is.


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As a modification to the "hobo" patties, may I suggest replacing the beef with lamb and adding some curry spices?

Also, snails are particulalry stinky when first thrown on the skillet so they are great for outdoors.

Finally, what makes you think people haven't always had food preservatives? The "cavemen" were just as intellegent as you and had an excellent body of knowlege on chemicals.

Remember: Fire and tools predate home sapiens. We evolved using them.


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CHEESE! Hunters extra sharp cheddar by cabot is the best.


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The grocery store in Yosemite sucks and costs a jillion dollars. Terrible selection, atrocious produce, unbelievable prices. Buy stuff on the road before you actually get to the ditch.

As others have said, cook whatever you'd cook at home, so long as it's simple. Single or two-pot meals are the best, and just eat your veggies and fruits fresh on the side.

Pasta carbonara is easy, omelettes are simple although more trouble to clean up after, and if you're in one of the campgrounds that has fires and grates, you do have other options as well (i.e., the various foil bakes or stuffed peppers, etc.)

Remember that the ditch is high enough that water takes longer to boil, and so it will take a bit longer for pasta and rice than it would at sea level.

Clean up carefully afterward, as the place crawls with bears and coons.


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Being a former Marine I have access to M.R.E.'s (meals ready to eat). They contain a large amount of calories and protien to keep you energized all day however you will not be "regular", it slows the bowel movements down.

My friends and I are taking a 7day long camping trip to Hueco Tanks Texas and Im bringing 5 M.R.E.'s for myself. In them there is a heater pack which gets water boiling through some sort of chemical reaction where you can then heat up your food in a matter of minutes. The other various items are waterproof matches (FIRE!!), a choco brownie, cocoa powder, a small piece of toilet tissue, main course ( many different things, some awful), bread or crackers, condoments; salt, pepper, tobasco sauce. All kinds of stuff.

Many people dont like them, but they provide me with a great deal of energy. ( and plus who wants to be crapping 2 times a day while camping).


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mecalekahi-mekahidyho wrote:
Being a former Marine I have access to M.R.E.'s (meals ready to eat). They contain a large amount of calories and protien to keep you energized all day however you will not be "regular", it slows the bowel movements down.

My friends and I are taking a 7day long camping trip to Hueco Tanks Texas and Im bringing 5 M.R.E.'s for myself. In them there is a heater pack which gets water boiling through some sort of chemical reaction where you can then heat up your food in a matter of minutes. The other various items are waterproof matches (FIRE!!), a choco brownie, cocoa powder, a small piece of toilet tissue, main course ( many different things, some awful), bread or crackers, condoments; salt, pepper, tobasco sauce. All kinds of stuff.

Many people dont like them, but they provide me with a great deal of energy. ( and plus who wants to be crapping 2 times a day while camping).
You're retarded.


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dr_feelgood wrote:
mecalekahi-mekahidyho wrote:
Being a former Marine I have access to M.R.E.'s (meals ready to eat). They contain a large amount of calories and protien to keep you energized all day however you will not be "regular", it slows the bowel movements down.

My friends and I are taking a 7day long camping trip to Hueco Tanks Texas and Im bringing 5 M.R.E.'s for myself. In them there is a heater pack which gets water boiling through some sort of chemical reaction where you can then heat up your food in a matter of minutes. The other various items are waterproof matches (FIRE!!), a choco brownie, cocoa powder, a small piece of toilet tissue, main course ( many different things, some awful), bread or crackers, condoments; salt, pepper, tobasco sauce. All kinds of stuff.

Many people dont like them, but they provide me with a great deal of energy. ( and plus who wants to be crapping 2 times a day while camping).
You're retarded.


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Yeah with dehydrating meat it works best to use meat that has been pressured cooked. All of the canned or packaged meat (turkey, chicken, ham, and tuna) is pressure cooked. You just have to look for low sodium products though.

If you're going to dehydrate meat, it's best to chop it into the smallest possible bits. You lose that meaty texture when you're chewing, but it rehydrates much faster.

Personally, I rarely bother dealing with dehydrated meats - rather I'll make everything else up, and carry along foil pouches of chicken and tuna. Those foil pouches are the greatest invention evar - all the convenience of canned meat, but without the work or weight. Smoked salmon is an excellent, albeit pricey, choice as well.

In fact, any smoked fish is an awesome choice to take along - if you've got a smoker it's not hard to prepare it and seal it up tight. Should keep unrefrigerated no problem if done right.


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dr_feelgood wrote:
mecalekahi-mekahidyho wrote:
Being a former Marine I have access to M.R.E.'s (meals ready to eat). They contain a large amount of calories and protien to keep you energized all day however you will not be "regular", it slows the bowel movements down.

My friends and I are taking a 7day long camping trip to Hueco Tanks Texas and Im bringing 5 M.R.E.'s for myself. In them there is a heater pack which gets water boiling through some sort of chemical reaction where you can then heat up your food in a matter of minutes. The other various items are waterproof matches (FIRE!!), a choco brownie, cocoa powder, a small piece of toilet tissue, main course ( many different things, some awful), bread or crackers, condoments; salt, pepper, tobasco sauce. All kinds of stuff.

Many people dont like them, but they provide me with a great deal of energy. ( and plus who wants to be crapping 2 times a day while camping).
You're retarded.

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I understand she wanted non packaged food ideas, and I obviously didnt provide an adequate response for you. I guess you have never strayed off topic before? Can I not express my ideas on a related topic without being belittled? I guess not.

Do you think that I didnt understand what she requested?

Thanks in advance for the mature response.


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mecalekahi-mekahidyho wrote:
I understand she wanted non packaged food ideas, and I obviously didnt provide an adequate response for you. I guess you have never strayed off topic before? Can I not express my ideas on a related topic without being belittled? I guess not.

Do you think that I didnt understand what she requested?

Thanks in advance for the mature response.
I wasn't commenting on the OP's desires. I was commenting on the distinct lack of regard which you give your digestive system.
Retard.


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I brought MREs on the first backpacking trip I ever took back in junior high school. Afterwards I cut off my mullet and swore never to do something so stupid ever again.

This almost seems like a brilliantly subtle troll - the new yorker who has no idea how to camp with an aversion to preservatives is almost too stereotypical to be real.


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dr_feelgood wrote:
mecalekahi-mekahidyho wrote:
Being a former Marine I have access to M.R.E.'s (meals ready to eat). They contain a large amount of calories and protien to keep you energized all day however you will not be "regular", it slows the bowel movements down.

My friends and I are taking a 7day long camping trip to Hueco Tanks Texas and Im bringing 5 M.R.E.'s for myself. In them there is a heater pack which gets water boiling through some sort of chemical reaction where you can then heat up your food in a matter of minutes. The other various items are waterproof matches (FIRE!!), a choco brownie, cocoa powder, a small piece of toilet tissue, main course ( many different things, some awful), bread or crackers, condoments; salt, pepper, tobasco sauce. All kinds of stuff.

Many people dont like them, but they provide me with a great deal of energy. ( and plus who wants to be crapping 2 times a day while camping).
You're retarded.
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Hell I would eat cardboard and white glue every day if it meant I could spend another month in Yosemite.

Of course now that I have TWO kids in college, I might have to cut back on the white glue...


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atg200 wrote:
I brought MREs on the first backpacking trip I ever took back in junior high school. Afterwards I cut off my mullet and swore never to do something so stupid ever again.

This almost seems like a brilliantly subtle troll - the new yorker who has no idea how to camp with an aversion to preservatives is almost too stereotypical to be real.

You're retarded.


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When I go out, I don't too much in the way of prep when it comes to food. I do bring the normal stuff though. Tuna, chicken and whatnot. I also bring gum. Chewing it kinda takes your mind off of not eating as much. But for the most part, I kill what I am going to eat. Whether its a fish or some bird that pissed me off, or something along those lines. The only thing wrong with it is that I have to be incognito because I don't have a fishing license or anything like that, but a bow goes a long way. Just be creative. The only way to learn is to mess up on teh first try and then try it again.


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elizaclimb wrote:
atg200 wrote:
I brought MREs on the first backpacking trip I ever took back in junior high school. Afterwards I cut off my mullet and swore never to do something so stupid ever again.

This almost seems like a brilliantly subtle troll - the new yorker who has no idea how to camp with an aversion to preservatives is almost too stereotypical to be real.

You're retarded.

Perhaps. That may put you into uncomfortable territory though because this retard at least realizes that there is little difference between cooking while car camping and cooking at home.


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atg200 wrote:
elizaclimb wrote:
atg200 wrote:
I brought MREs on the first backpacking trip I ever took back in junior high school. Afterwards I cut off my mullet and swore never to do something so stupid ever again.

This almost seems like a brilliantly subtle troll - the new yorker who has no idea how to camp with an aversion to preservatives is almost too stereotypical to be real.

You're retarded.

Perhaps. That may put you into uncomfortable territory though because this retard at least realizes that there is little difference between cooking while car camping and cooking at home.

uhhhh... New Yorkers don't know how to cook at home, Andrew.


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camhead wrote:
atg200 wrote:
elizaclimb wrote:
atg200 wrote:
I brought MREs on the first backpacking trip I ever took back in junior high school. Afterwards I cut off my mullet and swore never to do something so stupid ever again.

This almost seems like a brilliantly subtle troll - the new yorker who has no idea how to camp with an aversion to preservatives is almost too stereotypical to be real.

You're retarded.

Perhaps. That may put you into uncomfortable territory though because this retard at least realizes that there is little difference between cooking while car camping and cooking at home.

uhhhh... New Yorkers don't know how to cook at home, Andrew.
Sure they do... And much of it resembles camp cooking, complete with little two burner stoves.

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Actually I have food allergies that make me sick, some of which come from sulphites. So while I may be stereotypical, it's not because of my food choices! I'm fortunate to have a home to stay in each time I climb at the Gunks. Otherwise I would camp.

Thank you to all of the nice people with your food suggestions. I will definitely take your advice. I have camped. But this will be the first time camping alone.

Atg200 - you are a true Bear Grylls.


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rrradam, that kitchen is way bigger than my last one was when I lived in NYC.

i bet bear grylls' camera crew knows how to cook a mean car camping meal. alas, i had to let my camera crew go because of the economic downturn.


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atg200 wrote:
rrradam, that kitchen is way bigger than my last one was when I lived in NYC.

i bet bear grylls' camera crew knows how to cook a mean car camping meal. alas, i had to let my camera crew go because of the economic downturn.
Smile

atg200 is an ex-new yorker. haha Blushthe plot unfolds.


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atg200 wrote:
rrradam, that kitchen is way bigger than my last one was when I lived in NYC.

i bet bear grylls' camera crew knows how to cook a mean car camping meal. alas, i had to let my camera crew go because of the economic downturn.



Better Andy? How's things BTW?


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still bigger. i had no counter space at all. all i had was a dorm sized fridge, 3 cabinets, a tiny sink, and a 2 burner range tucked into a wall of my living room. cooking there was much more difficult than cooking while camping.

things are good. headed out to ghana for work in a week so i'm enjoying proper intestinal health while i can.


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Cool


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Enjoy eating whatever you wish while you can! Enjoy your trip. Laugh


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You can cook almost anything camping that you can cook at home. I would forget about things cooked in an oven but with a camping stove and pan and skillet, you're good to go. Vegatables are easy and fresh ones keep for several days, longer if on ice. There is no limit to what you can cook camping. I have a two burner propane cook stove and it is just about like cooking at home with the windscreen. I can cook just about anything including pinapple upside down cake. Check backpacker.com for a start on recipes. They have a forum like this. I hope you have fun and learn how easy cooking is.


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Oven cooking isn't hard in a dutch oven. I've made pot roasts on river trips before.


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No real camping meal is complete without squeezable bacon.


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reno wrote:
No real camping meal is complete without squeezable bacon.

thats disgusting.


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notapplicable wrote:
reno wrote:
No real camping meal is complete without squeezable bacon.

thats disgusting.

but it's "real"!


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carabiner96 wrote:
notapplicable wrote:
reno wrote:
No real camping meal is complete without squeezable bacon.

thats disgusting.

but it's "real"!

For serious?

I just assumed it was April 1st related.


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reno wrote:
No real camping meal is complete without squeezable bacon.
Mmmmm... Yummy!!!!!

Prolly great for my elevated cholesterol. Couple bottles of that and my blood vessels would likely be completely solid.


Won't be long until some redneck squirts that into a deep fryer, if they aren't already doing it. Some of my coworkers deep fry Snickers bars on a regular basis.


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And the video is priceless:
“Masculine kind, is your breadmeat lackluster, leaving your satisfaction the no?”


What a translation.


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Oh yea... I forgot one that I oly remembered since my wife just made it tonight:

Zatarain's Jambalaya made with kielbasa.


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Don't forget lunches - peanut butter, bagels, cheese....


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A view of my NYC kitchen.


Big enough for one. Tight quarters when Teddy comes in. Annoying when another human-sized being comes in. Any more and it's unworkable.



But, back to the MRE's/Poop stories....

http://survivalacres.com/information/mres.html

Read, follow links, laugh at the many poop stories that will be at your disposal.


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bill413 wrote:
Don't forget lunches - peanut butter, bagels, cheese....
Peanut butter and tart green apples.


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I ate homemade bread my first week, hiking form Minaret Summit near Mammoth Lakes to Toulumne Meadows. I packed everything into it that I could, as I was carrying a heavy tripod and medium format cameras, and als since it was October, I needed the calories. It worked really good and lasted the first 6 days. I had everything in it that I could knead in, and the molasses instead of sugar helped a lot. It, along with a first need water purifier kept me going for a leisurely high altitude stroll.


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My favorite:

1 Box Annie's Mac and Cheese
1 can of black beens
salsa

skip on the milk. It rocks as is, and taste so good after a day of climbing!


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