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k.l.k
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Mammoth locals report that a local climber died in a soloing accident at Dike Wall. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=895790 The victim was John Bachar. July 10: Supertopo has an evolving list of related threads, too many to link individually. Some of the most important obituaries are linked below. http://www.mountainsandwater.com/...2009-end-of-era.html http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=48225 http://www.latimes.com/...ul08,0,7890954.story http://www.guardian.co.uk/...-bacher-rock-climber http://www.nytimes.com/...sports/09bachar.html July 12: http://www.bergsteigen.at/...ericht.aspx?ID=13341 July 15: Friends and family have established a trust for Tyrus Bachar, 12, John's son. According to the family's lawyer: "Donations can be mailed via Pay Pal using the email tbacharlivingtrust@gmail.com. For donations of any amount, please make checks payable to: Acopa USA/ TBLT, 2328 Jeanne Drive, Las Vegas, NV, 89108. Contributions can also be made at any Well’s Fargo Bank using the account name Tyrus Bachar Living Trust located at zip code 92626." http://www.supertopo.com/..._id=896423&tn=60 http://www.supertopo.com/...html?topic_id=904291 July 16: http://www.economist.com/...fm?story_id=14029915 July 22: http://www.mammothtimes.com/content/view/134484/27/
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Its been confirmed that the climber was none other than legend and all around awesome individual John Bachar. Seems so surreal, he's so invincible... my prayers to the hundreds of people who he has affected and influenced in his wonderfully full life. Greg
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Jul 6, 2009, 2:59 AM
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RIP Our condolences to friends and family.
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Jul 6, 2009, 2:59 AM
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It doesn't seem possible after all these years. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family, friends, and all of those whose lives he touched.
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Jul 6, 2009, 3:05 AM
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no. RIP John. I always respected you. This year is getting really bad.
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Ah, dammit.
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Jul 6, 2009, 4:12 AM
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Damn... my thoughts and prayers to John's Family and Friends. RIP, John.
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Wow, I'm shocked and stunned by this news. Being fairly new to climbing, I never had the chance to meet the man. From the words of those who knew him, he sounds like he was a wonderful man, and obviously a talented climber, and he will be missed by all of us. RIP John.
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Rest in peace hero (we know you wouldn't really like this title but it's true) you changed our world truly Rest in peace.
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I just got home from Yosemite and I'm completely shocked and sadden to hear this news. My heart goes out to all his friends and family. RIP JB! Jason
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Jul 6, 2009, 4:45 AM
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I never thought he'd fall. Just seemed like something that wouldn't happen. He was so strong.
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Seems that we are losng a few too many of the greats lately. Lesser lights will take their place and the greats will become immortalised. RIP JB.
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No no no, not another. Damn this is getting to regular. What a life. He will be missed. RIP My condolences to all that have been touched by John in his amazing life.
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He's always been a hero of mine. I had hoped to one day meet the man who had influenced so much of who I am. RIP
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Definitely one of the greats. He was a forerunner in the generation that essentially made rockclimbing what it is today. My heart goes out to his family and friends. May he rest in peace.
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k.l.k wrote: Mammoth locals report that a local climber died in a soloing accident at Dike Wall. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=895790 The victim was John Bachar. I guess I'll post the same comment here that I posted over at ST.
curt wrote: Free soloing is always rolling the dice, but I always thought JB just had it dialed. I am so sorry to hear this. Curt
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This is terrible news. May John rest in peace.
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Jul 6, 2009, 11:31 AM
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this is so sad. condolences to his family. the world, especially the climbing world, is poorer without his presence. RIP john.
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RIP J.B., He gave so much to us.
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This is a great loss to the climbing community. My most sincere condolences to the family and friends .
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A legend has left us. RIP John. d.
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My condolences.
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Very tragic news, and my heart and prayers to his close friends and family.
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Jul 6, 2009, 1:57 PM
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Wow. Speechless. RIP JB. Sincerest condolences to family and friends.
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my condolences to family and friends. the climbing community has lost another cherished member.
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Jul 6, 2009, 2:52 PM
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Sorry to hear that we lost another member of our climbing community. It is truely a shame when a life is lost. It seems like these "In memory of/ Climbing accident" threads are way too common lately. R.I.P. John
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This is extremely sad, particularly for my generation of climbers that idolized Bachar. I'll remember him as the boldest, most bad ass climber to walk the earth. My condolences to his family and friends. RIP, Johnny Rock!
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Stunning news, RIP
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Jul 6, 2009, 3:27 PM
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RIP John. My condolences to his friends and family.
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Jul 6, 2009, 3:31 PM
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Oh my God....
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Jul 6, 2009, 5:15 PM
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I am numb with both disbelief and sadness. We have lost another remarkable friend, climber and free spirit. Peace be with you JB
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Jul 6, 2009, 5:21 PM
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So sad. RIP JB
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that's rough to handle. great climber and a really nice guy. condolences to those closest to him. you will be missed, john
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Tragic. He was an inspiration. Best wishes to his family and friends
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Condolences to his friends and family. When it rains it pours.
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R.I.P John Bachar. Very sad news.
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DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was always impressed with John, hell I knew of him even before I started climbing. I had opertunity to meet John last fall. Even with all the talk of climbing, his advice to "use a rope", ect... I think what I'll remember most about meeting him is his sence of humour and how real of a person he is/was. Just down to earth and genuinely interested in hearing your stories/jokes/epic. He didn't need to talk about himself. The one other thing I will always remember is how impressed he was that the local brewery had a beer called "Traditional", which locals always refer to as "Trad". Every beer he ordered he had to tell the whole table how cool it was that we had a "Trad" beer. Rest peacefully John. Thoughts and prayers to his friends and family.
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Wow, I'm speechless. Give 'em hell in heaven, JB.
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JB was an inspiration for decades of climbers. Of course I had heard of him prior to my first Yosemite trip in '82, but the guy was a real and honest person, and I will always remember him for that. I got the privilege of roping up next to the master when my partner and me hacked our way up "Catchy Corner" at the Cookie. John was roping up to do something nearby, and although he had already soloed the Nabisco Wall, the man made us feel like we mattered, and to his credit, we did to him, on that day. I give this man major credit for how he inspired us mere mortals. When he addressed me by name a couple (might have been 2-24 days later; it was after all Yosemite in the 80's), then I was impressed. Of course, I and everyone else West of the Atlantic ocean knew who he was. My last encounter with John was him walking by me to solo something near Bishop's Terrace. He was with my good friend John Rosholt, who I had spent the entire previous Summer climbing with in Eldo and Lumpy, and JB had just got in a shipment of "Fires." JB said "Hello, Loran," and JR told me in a whisper of the new secret weapon they were testing. Revolutionary to say the least. I cannot imagine a faster fad starting, but it seemed like a week after that the "Joke Shop," [i.e. Yosemite Mtn Shop] was already sold out of the new sticky rubber shoes. I think almost everyone in the Valley that Summer improved by a whole YDS number grade, especially us who fancied Glacier Point Apron and Middle Cathedral.
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R.I.P.
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Very sad. My most sincere condolences to his friends and family. He was definitely an inspiration. GO
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I liked the title of the Reardon DVD documentry: Bachar: Man, Myth, Legend. Sadly, both men died pursuing their adventures. Huge inspiration--not to climb like he did--that would be utterly impossible. But just to move in that direction a little from time to time. Condolensecnes to friends and family and I hope they take some comfort in reflecting on how many people he inspired.
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Has there been an official story written on what exactly happened yet?
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Another sad day. RIP and condolences to his family.
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Man, first Dash, Copp & Johnson, now Bacher. RIP
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abe_ascends wrote: Wow, I'm speechless. Give 'em hell in heaven, JB. good words. I'm sure he's soloing clouds now. Climb hard John Bachar you will live in the hearts of all of us forever.
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Well I have a similar story about the Icon john bachar. My wife and I were climbing in a place called Clark canyon. I had just got through climbing a route called EL TORO a great 11d and saw this guy watching me from across the alcove looking kind of weird with a beer belly. So the guy walks up and asks me if he could climb the route I say sure, look back at my wife to laugh look back again, and he is already 20 feet up the climb with no rope or harness, laugh and say is your name john bachar he says yes whats your name, I laugh again. By this time he is in the crux having a full on conversation with me 60 feet of the deck. Finally I ask him free soloing again right on man.......no joke he says...... NO I AM JUST BOULDERING TODAY From that day on I looked at climbing in a hole different way. He came down went up 3 more climbs and then sat down and talked with me and answered all my questions saying. All us old timers have been bouldering here since the 70s. What a great Icon thanks john you taught me allot about what not to do on high balls with my feet. PEACE. The year was june 2005.. Clark Canyon mammoth lakes area. God rest your soul John Bachar.
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A warrior is gone... RIP in John
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I have no heroes in climbing- I really just enjoy climbing as a hobby, not a lifestyle. But I can see why so many held Bachar in such high regard. His exploits made him seem invincible. It's always so sobering to find out that a hero is, in fact, mortal. That he left a child is even more sad. Boys need their daddies.
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I agree with all of you that this is terrible news and very sad indeed but is it really a surprise? It seems like all the great soloists die too young one way or another. I apologize if this offends any of you because I agree that it is a great loss.
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yuiruprup wrote: I agree with all of you that this is terrible news and very sad indeed but is it really a surprise? It seems like all the great soloists die too young one way or another. I apologize if this offends any of you because I agree that it is a great loss. I think it really is a surprise to a lot of us. It is always a surprise, but JB was the last guy I expected to read about. I don't know why, but even to a 25 year old who is still a n00b in many ways, he just seemed immortal. The guy was a hero to so many people... it just didn't seem possible that he would fall. R.I.P. John Bachar
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John Bachar is nothing short of a legend. His appearance here in the Red Rock Canyon area in the early eighties along with original J Tree stonemaster Richard Harrison made a huge impact on a small group of Vegas locals. His commitment and vision influenced the direction of route development in the canyons that continues to this day. John Bachar is the original American Badass rock climber
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This is truly sad. I never met him but someone pointed him out once in mammoth and I should have gone and shaken his hand after hearing all of those crazy campfire stories about the 1 finger pull up competition where he popped his tendon in his finger, and all of the others. He was a true He-man and made all of our cahones look smaller in comparison. I am so bummed since I was on the east side on Sunday and should have stopped in mammoth. Bachar, was an inspiration and such a part of the california climbing community and will be missed.
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Hell of a climber and just an all around great guy. We'll miss ya JB Brian
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I worked with him in Yosemite in 1981(National Park Service). He was soloing then and we all assumed he would die any day. I worked in maintenance in Toulumne Meadows. Cannot remember now what he was doing, what department he was in. Did ask to climb with him but never got the oppurtunity.
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My first reaction was-- no, not possible, it must be a mistake... RIP, John Bachar.
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We will all miss a warrior who so closely walked the Path he talked. Fare well, sensei, where ever you fare. mg
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I hadn't heard of John before now. However, from what I've read, he seems to have lived a very, very fulfilling life. This is such sad news. RIP, John.
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WordsVerbatim wrote: I hadn't heard of John before now... For a couple of decades John was definitely "The Man," where rock climbing climbing was concerned. I first climbed with him at Reed's Pinnacle in Yosemite in 1983. Mark Jacobs and I were doing a route called "Old 5.10" at the same time JB was soloing "Lunatic Fringe" just to our right. After John came down he asked us if we would give him a TR on Old 5.10 before we pulled our rope down, because he had never done the route before. Naturally, he floated the thing like it was "Old 5.6" and we then spent a few minutes discussing these new gray shoes he was wearing with a red dot on the side. After he informed us that these new Spanish-made "Fire" climbing shoes made everything else seem like climbing in roller skates, I ordered two pair of them. Those were the good old days. RIP, John. Curt
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I AM NEW TO THIS WORLD OF CLIMBING AND HAVE READ A NUMBER OF ARTICLES AND SEEN A TON OF PICTURES ABOUT THIS "LEGEND." HE HAS INFLUENCED ME TO KEEP TRAVELING DOWN THE ROAD TO BECOMMING A BETTER CLIMBER; A BETTER PERSON. HE WAS NOT A LEGEND, HE WAS EVEN ABOVE THAT STATUS AS WELL. I AM SADDENED BY THIS AS HE WAS JUST ANOTHER EVERY-DAY AVERAGE MAN WITH SEEMINGLY FEARLESS, RELENTLESS, AND DEMIGOD-LIKE QUALITIES IN THE CLIMBING WORLD. RIP JOHN, YOU ARE STILL A HERO, AND WAY ABOVE A LEGEND TO ME. MY HEART AND SOUL GO OUT TO YOUR FAMILY, AND MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO YOU...
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John was an elitist climber but he took time to chat to us ordinary mortals - and to give us some tips that have kept us alive. He definitely enjoyed being a bit outrageous and that helped make our climbing world a bit less politically correct - and less, well, boring? I expect that when we choose a super-sport, we choose a super-death. RIP John and condolences to his family.
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R.I.P. JB If St. Pete doesn't open the gates, just climb over.
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I frick'in hate it when awesome climbers die. A legend is dead. We are all at a great loss. Thanks Coach for the heads up on this Dave
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camhead
Jul 17, 2009, 11:26 AM
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Looks like he just got an obit in the Economist. Nice.
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dumbsocrates
Jul 17, 2009, 1:25 PM
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Bummer... I just found out! I've just been reading about him loving his CU belay glasses in the August issue of Climbing Magazine RIP.
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BobfartsII
Jul 18, 2009, 4:21 AM
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Bump... http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=904291
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karlbaba
Jul 20, 2009, 4:20 AM
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Sorry I didn't see this thread so I posted here http://tinyurl.com/n3tgpp See that thread for a link to the fund to Benefit John's son Tyrus peace karl
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Mt_Fireu8e
Jul 20, 2009, 9:10 PM
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WOW! very sad news! My condolences to his family and friends.
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petsfed
Jul 20, 2009, 9:42 PM
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Rustie wrote: ...an elitist climber... I think the word you're looking for is "elite", since, while he defended his approach to climbing with zeal, he never really supported a sort of elitism that any one of us couldn't subscribe to. John, like Mike Reardon and Derek Hershey (and I guess Peter Croft, although he's still with us), always seemed like the sort of person who was the statistical counterbalance to the accident prone. That he died soloing is sobering to the point that its taken me a while to really believe it. I never met him, but by all accounts, John had the kind of personality to emulate: friendly and gregarious, passionate and outspoken. RIP John
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Johnny_Fang
Jul 23, 2009, 5:34 PM
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camhead wrote: Looks like he just got an obit in the Economist. Nice. this obit is beautifully written, by the way. thanks for the link.
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climberguy2011
Jul 25, 2009, 9:22 PM
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RIP.
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acorneau
Aug 12, 2009, 8:23 PM
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Found this interesting item on eBay: "Acopa Climbing Shoes - any model, any size" From the description:
In reply to: BENEFIT AUCTION All proceeds from this auction go to the Tyrus Bachar Living Trust in memory of his loving father John M. Bachar III. John's close friends and family wish to insure the health, education and well being of Tyrus Bachar. http://cgi.ebay.com/....c0.m14#ht_745wt_962 Also: http://cgi.ebay.com/....c0.m14#ht_705wt_962 Sounds like a nice way to honor a great climber.
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