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Dec 30, 2010, 4:58 PM
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I use to get the flu once a year but ever since I starting getting the fall flu shot I have not had the flu at all.

I started getting the flu shot 5 years ago and it been 5 year since I last got the flu, I'm convinced that it works.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
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rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay


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jt512 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay

I'm pretty sure that Lhwang is an M.D., too.


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camhead wrote:
jt512 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay

I'm pretty sure that Lhwang is an M.D., too.

they're no match for gumburnz' gut feelings and misinformation.


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jt512 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay

prove it


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Re: [Gmburns2000] The Flu Shot-Yes or No? Why? [In reply to]
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Gmburns2000 wrote:
jt512 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay

prove it

This is pretty much playing out just like one of your "anti-sport/trad is so awesome" rants. Keep digging.


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camhead wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
jt512 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay

prove it

This is pretty much playing out just like one of your "anti-sport/trad is so awesome" rants. Keep digging.

do you stick clip your autism shot, too?


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
jt512 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay

prove it
It has been, and has even been explained to you, apparently even by your doctor since he "thinks [you] should take it for precautionary measures", but you just refuse to accept it.

So, to summarize... Not only has what you believe been shown to be wrong, BUT it has also been proven that even when shown that you are wrong, you will not accept it, as evidenced by your subsequent replies.



Curious... Since you seem to know more than the experts, what is the cure for willful stupidity?


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rrrADAM wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
jt512 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay

prove it
It has been, and has even been explained to you, apparently even by your doctor since he "thinks [you] should take it for precautionary measures", but you just refuse to accept it.

So, to summarize... Not only has what you believe been shown to be wrong, BUT it has also been proven that even when shown that you are wrong, you will not accept it, as evidenced by your subsequent replies.



Curious... Since you seem to know more than the experts, what is the cure for willful stupidity?

depends on the diagnosis, I guess. Depends even more on whether someone is smart enough to be able to accurately diagnose it.


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Ummmmmm..... You are only 35 years old?


Damn, dude! You may want to reconsider getting that shot, as you don't look all that healthy of a 35.


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Ummmmmm..... You are only 35 years old?
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/460706-largest_millbrook_trail.JPG[/image]

Damn, dude! You may want to reconsider getting that shot, as you don't look all that healthy of a 35.

cancer


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Ummmmmm..... You are only 35 years old?
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/460706-largest_millbrook_trail.JPG[/image]

Damn, dude! You may want to reconsider getting that shot, as you don't look all that healthy of a 35.

cancer
Another reason why you should get the vaccine. Oh, and you left that part out in your "you are a healthy young man" reply.


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rrrADAM wrote:
Ummmmmm..... You are only 35 years old?
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/460706-largest_millbrook_trail.JPG[/image]

Damn, dude! You may want to reconsider getting that shot, as you don't look all that healthy of a 35.

cancer
Another reason why you should get the vaccine. Oh, and you left that part out in your "you are a healthy young man" reply.

it's not cancer. sorry, that was distasteful of me.

I'm pretty damn healthy. Ugly? sure. Healthy? ditto.


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camhead wrote:
jt512 wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
I_do wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Curious... Do you argue with your doctor about medice too?

No, my doctor is great. When I need medication I take it. For instance, I had Lyme this summer and he was great in treating it. A few years ago I slipped on ice on a set of stone steps and had a pretty severe back spasm. He gave me a muscle relaxant and I was back climbing within a few days.

The thing I like about my doctor is he listens to me and explains things to me: why this method would work better than others, why some people take this medication and others opt out, etc. We've talked about the vaccine, and while he thinks I should take it for precautionary measures he agrees I don't necessarily need it. I'm definitely not in the high-risk zone. When I'm older and not as healthy? That's a different story.

I've always explained to him that my preference is to first find a way to adapt to illnesses without drugs, and he's been great at helping me to achieve that. It isn't always possible or even highly recommended (Lyme, for instance just wasn't reasonable to avoid the doxy), but when it is then it works well. I have some esophogeal issues that medication would help to alleviate (and allow me to eat a wider range of foods), but what for? All I need to do is avoid certain foods. It's easier, cheaper, and I'm not putting an unecessary drug into my body for the rest of my life.

No, my doctor is great. He hasn't always been right, but he's never been afraid to talk to me, listen to me, and advise me either by sending me to the appropriate specialist or be aggressive with my treatments.

Yet when someone does that here you start arguing with them. You know you could have said, OK so I've misunderstood how vaccines work. They do not decrease resistance and it's not like taking medication. I still don't think I NEED them, just like my doctor said, but maybe I'll keep this new info in the back of my head just in case.

In stead you act like an asshole and discuss things you don't even understand.

blah blah blah blah blah!

[image]http://anecdonet.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hand-pictures1.jpg?w=420&h=299.jpg[/image]

Do you have this near pathological problem with being wrong in your personal life as well, or is it restricted to your on-line persona?

who says I'm wrong?

A number of people including a biologist and an epidemiologist.

Jay

I'm pretty sure that Lhwang is an M.D., too.

Not all advice from medical professionals on this site is to be believed.


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Ummmmmm..... You are only 35 years old?
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/460706-largest_millbrook_trail.JPG[/image]

Damn, dude! You may want to reconsider getting that shot, as you don't look all that healthy of a 35.

cancer

For real????


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OK... Well, in that pic, you look rather emaciated. And, Lyme disease, which you said tyou contracted, can have effects leading to a weakened immune system. Again, even other reason why you should get the vaccine... Likely one reason why your Dr suggested you get it, even though you may not "need" it.

When it comes to my health, I usually ask the doc what he himself would do if it were him or one of his kids in regards to what ever he is suggesting for me, then research if I have any questions.


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wonderwoman wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
Ummmmmm..... You are only 35 years old?
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/460706-largest_millbrook_trail.JPG[/image]

Damn, dude! You may want to reconsider getting that shot, as you don't look all that healthy of a 35.

cancer

For real????

no, I took it too far with that one, and I honestly feel shitty for it. my sincere apologies to anyone who I offended. I don't have cancer.


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Re: [rrrADAM] The Flu Shot-Yes or No? Why? [In reply to]
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rrrADAM wrote:
OK... Well, in that pic, you look rather emaciated. And, Lyme disease, which you said tyou contracted, can have effects leading to a weakened immune system. Again, even other reason why you should get the vaccine... Likely one reason why your Dr suggested you get it, even though you may not "need" it.

When it comes to my health, I usually ask the doc what he himself would do if it were him or one of his kids in regards to what ever he is suggesting for me, then research if I have any questions.

well, this was taken not long after recovering from Lyme, but I'm not sick in this picture. It was freaking cold and that's how white I get when it's cold. Also, as a result of lyme, I did lost a fair amount of weight (about 20lbs) in two months, but even then, this was after a check-up I had with my doctor and everything was fine. I think I went to the dr. about four times after contracting the disease just so we'd know when I was back to normal so that I knew when it was safe to leave for Chile.


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Qwestchun:

You catch diseases and you're super sensitive to temperature changes... thats healthy how?

I'm super-healthy BECAUSE I have a kid who spends his days in a petrie dish and brings everything home with him. That and I got my shots.


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Kartessa wrote:
Qwestchun:

You catch diseases and you're super sensitive to temperature changes... thats healthy how?

I'm super-healthy BECAUSE I have a kid who spends his days in a petrie dish and brings everything home with him. That and I got my shots.

I only caught Lyme because a tick bit me. I was and still am no more succeptible than anyone else.

the sensitivity to cold actually has nothing to do with my general health. I don't get more colds, for instance, just because my blood runs away under 50f.


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This conversation makes me very sad. Frown


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blondgecko wrote:
This conversation makes me very sad. Frown

This will cheer you up:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Flu

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The most effective protection is prevention through vaccination and the federal government plans to offer 250 million vaccine doses to the public from mid-October to the end of 2009


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
blondgecko wrote:
This conversation makes me very sad. Frown

This will cheer you up:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Flu

About H1N1:
In reply to:
The most effective protection is prevention through vaccination and the federal government plans to offer 250 million vaccine doses to the public from mid-October to the end of 2009

yeah, but if you take it in canada with the flu shot then you're guaranteed to get H1N1.


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
blondgecko wrote:
This conversation makes me very sad. Frown

This will cheer you up:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Flu

About H1N1:
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The most effective protection is prevention through vaccination and the federal government plans to offer 250 million vaccine doses to the public from mid-October to the end of 2009

Wow - a reasonably accurate entry on Conservapedia. Will wonders never cease?


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lhwang wrote:
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I'm pretty selfish, so I don't get it. In the past I've found that I am guaranteed to be sick within a few days of getting the shot versus a chance of getting sick in the upcoming season. This includes semi-communal living and healthcare work.

I'm not discounting your experience, but in several large randomized controlled trials, the only difference in symptoms between people who got the flu shot and people who got salt water injections was arm soreness/redness.

I also think if you're in healthcare, you really need to strongly consider getting the flu shot. You're putting your patients at unnecessary risk.

Don't get me wrong, the evidence is definitely on your side as far as a large population goes. I have gotten the flu shot three times, and every time I had flu like symptoms within a few days. If I don't get it, I might get it at some point, but the years I was not vaccinated I did not get sick.

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