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camhead


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jbone wrote:
People like Hitler "Force" change.

I wouldn't say MLK "Forced" anything, rather he lobbied for equality based on reason.

Your in Germany eh? Would have figured this would be pretty clear in your neck of the woods.

Hey Jbone, shut the fuck up, you fucking racist, and please refer any other questions you may have to THIS BLOG RIGHT HERE YES CLICK it YOU FUCKING RACIST.

Seriously, leave and don't come back until you've read the entire site.

Oh, and if Hitler-like tactics could help you learn proper spelling and use of apostrophes, I say bring on the final solution, douchebag.


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camhead wrote:
jbone wrote:
People like Hitler "Force" change.

I wouldn't say MLK "Forced" anything, rather he lobbied for equality based on reason.

Your in Germany eh? Would have figured this would be pretty clear in your neck of the woods.

Hey Jbone, shut the fuck up, you fucking racist, and please refer any other questions you may have to THIS BLOG RIGHT HERE YES CLICK it YOU FUCKING RACIST.

Seriously, leave and don't come back until you've read the entire site.

Oh, and if Hitler-like tactics could help you learn proper spelling and use of apostrophes, I say bring on the final solution, douchebag.

Oh whoa dude, you just lost many points in my book. Your response was way out of line.


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Well actually it wasn't simply a casting call, there were comments both with and followed it.

I live in Australia and not the US. Perhaps because of that I found the initial post/discussion quite surprising to see. Where I live the initial "advertisement" would be considered illegal. You're absolutely right, casting calls are sometimes very specific, if they are casting for a particular historical character for example. Otherwise the doors are (at least at face value) open to all.

To put it in perspective, how would an "African-American" feel if they saw the following advertisement in Sports Illustrated: Wanted, 100m sprinter for photo-shoot. MUST be caucasian, people of any color need not apply.

"TheGuy", the problems that have emerged as a result of the well intentioned, program of "Affirmative Action" are well established and I'd invite you to do an internet search for more information if you're interested. Again, where I live it is well and truly outlawed as a result, although it was very much in vogue when I went through business school.

That's about all I have to say on the topic as I have no interest in coming to a Climbing forum and debating about race. It's a non-debate in our countries as far as I'm concerned. Want to see discrimination? Spend some time in Asia. I'm there a lot and laugh when I read about "discrimination" in our own countries. Yet I've never used that as a cop-out to limit my activities while there.


camhead


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PeteF wrote:
To put it in perspective, how would an "African-American" feel if they saw the following advertisement in Sports Illustrated: Wanted, 100m sprinter for photo-shoot. MUST be caucasian, people of any color need not apply.

Yeah, that would be terrible. Especially because whites have been so oppressed after blacks colonized, captured, enslaved, and raped them all while setting up an entire world system for 300+ years that assumed black superiority and white inferiority.

Oh, wait, no, my bad, that didn't happen. STFU.


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camhead wrote:
PeteF wrote:
To put it in perspective, how would an "African-American" feel if they saw the following advertisement in Sports Illustrated: Wanted, 100m sprinter for photo-shoot. MUST be caucasian, people of any color need not apply.

Yeah, that would be terrible. Especially because whites have been so oppressed after blacks colonized, captured, enslaved, and raped them all while setting up an entire world system for 300+ years that assumed black superiority and white inferiority.

Oh, wait, no, my bad, that didn't happen. STFU.

Dude....


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camhead wrote:
Yeah, that would be terrible. Especially because whites have been so oppressed after blacks colonized, captured, enslaved, and raped them all while setting up an entire world system for 300+ years that assumed black superiority and white inferiority.

Oh, wait, no, my bad, that didn't happen. STFU.

Whoa!! Dude get a grip! That was low, and more than an interesting perspective given only a few days earlier I read this comment from you.

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You know, none of us go onto gun forums and argue about climbing...


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ObviousTroll wrote:
camhead wrote:
jbone wrote:
People like Hitler "Force" change.

I wouldn't say MLK "Forced" anything, rather he lobbied for equality based on reason.

Your in Germany eh? Would have figured this would be pretty clear in your neck of the woods.

Hey Jbone, shut the fuck up, you fucking racist, and please refer any other questions you may have to THIS BLOG RIGHT HERE YES CLICK it YOU FUCKING RACIST.

Seriously, leave and don't come back until you've read the entire site.

Oh, and if Hitler-like tactics could help you learn proper spelling and use of apostrophes, I say bring on the final solution, douchebag.

Oh whoa dude, you just lost many points in my book. Your response was way out of line.

You and JBone might have better luck at free republic, maybe? They're much cheerier about casual racism.

PeteF wrote:
To put it in perspective, how would an "African-American" feel if they saw the following advertisement in Sports Illustrated: Wanted, 100m sprinter for photo-shoot. MUST be caucasian, people of any color need not apply.

If you think these are equivalent situations, you're insane or stupid.


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ObviousTroll


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styndall wrote:
ObviousTroll wrote:
camhead wrote:
jbone wrote:
People like Hitler "Force" change.

I wouldn't say MLK "Forced" anything, rather he lobbied for equality based on reason.

Your in Germany eh? Would have figured this would be pretty clear in your neck of the woods.

Hey Jbone, shut the fuck up, you fucking racist, and please refer any other questions you may have to THIS BLOG RIGHT HERE YES CLICK it YOU FUCKING RACIST.

Seriously, leave and don't come back until you've read the entire site.

Oh, and if Hitler-like tactics could help you learn proper spelling and use of apostrophes, I say bring on the final solution, douchebag.

Oh whoa dude, you just lost many points in my book. Your response was way out of line.

You and JBone might have better luck at free republic, maybe? They're much cheerier about casual racism.

PeteF wrote:
To put it in perspective, how would an "African-American" feel if they saw the following advertisement in Sports Illustrated: Wanted, 100m sprinter for photo-shoot. MUST be caucasian, people of any color need not apply.

If you think these are equivalent situations, you're insane or stupid.

You just called me out on being a casual racist? I don't argue with stupid people so it looks like you've got this one.


styndall


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Read JBone's second post, and then tell me you're not defending outright racism.


jbone


Jan 6, 2013, 5:40 PM
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Dude specifically asked for an instance pertaining to forced change, god forbid that I mention the most obvious of all examples of forced change and suddenly I'm racist. If that's what it takes to be a racist then everybody who speaks of Hitler is a racist.

You have absolutely nothing to contribute to this conversation, don't come in here and turn it into a war just because you can't say what you think in a civil manner.


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jbone wrote:
I did read your article, and I think its "poor me" journalism. If you go to Mexico and watch tv you will see Hispanics. If you go to China and watch tv you will see Chinese. If you go to Africa you will see Africans. Why is it when you are in America and you watch tv you don't see Americans? Maybe you need more friends who are white?


(This is directed to Styndall)-----> That's not racist. Somebody ought to take that silver spoon out of your mouth so you can go experience the world a bit. Of the thirteen countries I have visited, and the racism that I have been exposed to, if the above post is racist to you then I say to you, wake up.

Stop trying to identify racists out of people that are only trying to express their unpopular opinion. Being that this is an online forum with freedom of speech; you have to take what you read with a grain of salt.


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Baaaaahaahaha.... Look at this geeky little guy. This is the guy that called me a racist. How dare you make such an accusation. I wonder what my Black work partner would tell you if he was around. Or any of my Hispanic friends. I wonder what my squad would say if you called me a racist in front of them. One black, four Hispanic, four White, one Filipino.

If I'm racist against anybody, it's against self righteous little geeks like you.


camhead


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ObviousTroll wrote:
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/0/454340-largest_stephen1.jpg[/image]

Baaaaahaahaha.... Look at this geeky little guy. This is the guy that called me a racist. How dare you make such an accusation. I wonder what my Black work partner would tell you if he was around. Or any of my Hispanic friends. I wonder what my squad would say if you called me a racist in front of them. One black, four Hispanic, four White, one Filipino.

If I'm racist against anybody, it's against self righteous little geeks like you.

Oh, wait, you have non-white friends? That makes it all good, bro. I'm sure they'd all sign a card saying you're not racist, or however that works.


camhead


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PeteF wrote:
camhead wrote:
Yeah, that would be terrible. Especially because whites have been so oppressed after blacks colonized, captured, enslaved, and raped them all while setting up an entire world system for 300+ years that assumed black superiority and white inferiority.

Oh, wait, no, my bad, that didn't happen. STFU.

Whoa!! Dude get a grip! That was low, and more than an interesting perspective given only a few days earlier I read this comment from you.

In reply to:
You know, none of us go onto gun forums and argue about climbing...

I'm a little slow, so maybe you could tell me how these two quotes contradict each other?


jbone


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Your so bad camhead that you can't even tell me I'm digging my own grave without digging your own.


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camhead wrote:
Oh, wait, you have non-white friends? That makes it all good, bro. I'm sure they'd all sign a card saying you're not racist, or however that works.

Makes what all good? The mere fact that I simply told you that you were out of line for accusing a man of being a
camhead wrote:
FUCKING RACIST

Or how I merely pointed out that Jbone is certainly not the only one that thinks along those lines? So please, tell me exactly what qualifies me to be a "fucking racist" and why I am "all good" now since I have friends of a different nationality and skin color.


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[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/0/454340-largest_stephen1.jpg[/image]

Baaaaahaahaha.... Look at this geeky little guy. This is the guy that called me a racist. How dare you make such an accusation. I wonder what my Black work partner would tell you if he was around. Or any of my Hispanic friends. I wonder what my squad would say if you called me a racist in front of them. One black, four Hispanic, four White, one Filipino.

If I'm racist against anybody, it's against self righteous little geeks like you.

Wow, I really got under your skin. Good job finding a picture of me. You could probably also find my name. Hint - it's my username.

Also, seriously, the "no, guys, I have black friends" defense?


ObviousTroll


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styndall wrote:
ObviousTroll wrote:
[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/0/454340-largest_stephen1.jpg[/image]

Baaaaahaahaha.... Look at this geeky little guy. This is the guy that called me a racist. How dare you make such an accusation. I wonder what my Black work partner would tell you if he was around. Or any of my Hispanic friends. I wonder what my squad would say if you called me a racist in front of them. One black, four Hispanic, four White, one Filipino.

If I'm racist against anybody, it's against self righteous little geeks like you.

Wow, I really got under your skin. Good job finding a picture of me. You could probably also find my name. Hint - it's my username.

Also, seriously, the "no, guys, I have black friends" defense?

You think I should have one of them go knock on your door and inform you in person that I'm not racist, or would you rather I just tell you over the forum? I mean Christ bro, what defense was I supposed to go with?


Partner j_ung


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jbone wrote:
Sounds like a cultural issue.

You can go out and make a commercial with a African-American tooling his way up some glacier but who are you making it for really?

Just guessing here... African American customers?


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I can't seem to find Africa-America on a globe . . . Unsure


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I mean Christ bro, what defense was I supposed to go with?

you could try not defending racists, and see how that works out for you?


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jbone wrote:


I wouldn't say MLK "Forced" anything, rather he lobbied for equality based on reason.

I said that... long before I was accused by idiots of being a racist I complimented the civil rights movement and its leader. I have not and do not wish ill will on any person or living thing, and to insinuate otherwise is asinine.

If you cannot have a discussion without blatantly judging people who are willing to speak up then don't even bother.


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jbone wrote:
I did read your article, and I think its "poor me" journalism. If you go to Mexico and watch tv you will see Hispanics. If you go to China and watch tv you will see Chinese. If you go to Africa you will see Africans. Why is it when you are in America and you watch tv you don't see Americans? Maybe you need more friends who are white?

Who is it that you see on American TV?


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snoopy138 wrote:
ObviousTroll wrote:
I mean Christ bro, what defense was I supposed to go with?

you could try not defending racists, and see how that works out for you?

Gah fuck it. You're next on my list. Ten years of one stars on all your posts.

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