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climbsomething
Feb 17, 2004, 6:32 PM
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In reply to: i for one feel safer that we have an internet superhero like climbsomething protecting us. god bless the wisdom that can be gained from a couple of years of toproping and sport climbing!
God save me from myself, we all know wisdom is stored in the belly, and since I only weigh 100 pounds :( ...
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climbersoze
Feb 17, 2004, 6:46 PM
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Oh jeez.... not another one... it was a joke... I am going to go sit in my corner now.
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atg200
Feb 17, 2004, 6:50 PM
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hillary, your problem is that you only climb in very controlled environments. i understood climbsoze's point, and while it is maybe not the best thing to have posted it certainly wasn't worthy of your gumbie jihad.
a good way of looking at it is that sometimes bombproof fully redundant systems are actually not the optimal solution for a particular problem, and the ability to improvise with minimal amounts of gear becomes important. this is true in the military, and that is the spirit in which climbersoze posted. it is also true on big alpine routes - if you have to rap off a huge technical face in a storm with only a light rack, you will most likely be rapping off a single non locking biner over and over again. on the off chance you ever go out and do a big alpine route in a remote area, you may see what i mean. on the other end of the spectrum, the folks out working with heavy duty full body construction harnesses and steel biners wouldn't consider our typical anchors safe.
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curt
Feb 17, 2004, 6:52 PM
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Just when climbersoze was almost pinned he reached through the ropes and tagged atg200. Climbsomething didn't see this coming and was body slammed to the canvas. But, just as it is always darkest before the dawn--Amber_chk tags and comes into the ring to relieve Hillary.
Stay tuned for round two.
Curt
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dookie
Feb 17, 2004, 6:53 PM
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ah, this thread is some funny shiz, thanks to all for some laughs :lol: go git em hils!
It's all fun and games till someone notices they themselves posted a gumby remark :lol: It's OK man, it happens to the best of us.... ;)
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climbsomething
Feb 17, 2004, 7:01 PM
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Andy,
Because I don't like that "edited by" line, let me clarify that I was not insulting your style of climbing, I was, um, insulting your insult that drew its strength from insulting styles of climbing. (yeah) The sport v. trad thing is tired. Yeah, I sport climb, yeah you get your kicks on desert towers. Good for both of us. But this is a non-sequitor. I am confident in what I say, and the kind of climbing I do, and I am further confident that just because some people think lycra jokes are still funny, that doesn't make them uniquely qualified to be the only climbers with reasoning skills.
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atg200
Feb 17, 2004, 7:07 PM
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i know you weren't insulting my style of climbing, not that i would really care if you did. believe it or not i started out as a sport climber a long long time ago, and climbed fairly hard back then.
the point of bringing up your lack of experience in much aside from sport climbing is that sport climbing really don't build the intimate knowledge of rigging systems that trad, aid, and alpine climbing do. i make no value judgements in this - i'm just stating a simple fact. sport climbing also definitely does not teach the improvisational skills that are required in unpredictable environments. preaching absolute rules when you don't have sufficient breadth of experience to understand those rules can and are broken regularly is a form of gumbyism in itself, which may be deserving of some sort of award in this thread.
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the_pirate
Feb 17, 2004, 7:21 PM
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In an emergency situation, one might be called upon to perform a body rappel, which is neither locking nor redundant. I would hardly call it a gumby maneuver.
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edge
Feb 17, 2004, 7:37 PM
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In reply to: In an emergency situation, one might be called upon to perform a body rappel, which is neither locking nor redundant. I would hardly call it a gumby maneuver.
It can, however, be an emasculating maneuver. :shock:
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piton
Feb 17, 2004, 7:38 PM
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to keep the peace here i will gladly nominate myself as rc.com Gumby of year. i will wear a gumby on my harness (thing used in climbing to protect your head from falling rocks) when i go out to the crags and will say hey who do you think you are tom cruise in mission impossible.
"I'm gumby dammit!"
mmmmmmm cookies. :D
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calamity_chk
Feb 17, 2004, 8:45 PM
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In reply to: Just when climbersoze was almost pinned he reached through the ropes and tagged atg200. Climbsomething didn't see this coming and was body slammed to the canvas. But, just as it is always darkest before the dawn--Amber_chk tags and comes into the ring to relieve Hillary. Stay tuned for round two. Curt
hahah. curt, you crack me up.
honestly, i dont have much of a problem with climbersoze's post. i havent read it in its original context, but my guess is that he was referring to a dire situation, not a common practice - and although rapping off a single, non-locker isnt the best idea in the world, if my choices were to roll the dice with a non-locker or be struck by lightening, i'd be getting on rappell.
as for going head-to-head with atg and climbersoze about safety vs gumby, count me out - both of those guys have more experience than i do. i merely commented because climber's petite climber chick response included lots of people who werent part of the flamefest, like me. ;)
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crazygirl
Feb 17, 2004, 9:01 PM
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I nominate myself for the gumby award. and to prove that i'm not just copyyng peton's post, here are my credentials:
i've been climbing for 10 years, trad leading for 5 or so.
on occasion i do gumby things such as:
- wear scarpas
- every now and then setup unequalized anchors
- once placed a piece and forgot to clip my rope thru it
- on a different occasion, untied my rope, before clipping to the anchor. and i wasn't standing on a ledge, either.
- rapped off one sling and one non-locking biner
- never been to Rumney
- don't wear high tech synthetic prana clothes
- i don't know how to rappel using 4 biners
- when sport climbing, backclip regularly
I hope this makes me a good candidate. please send me the gumby toy.
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jt512
Feb 17, 2004, 9:24 PM
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In reply to: Wow, climbsomething has completed her coursework at the JT512 school of somewhat knowledgeable but condescending and irritating climbers.
You should take the course, Bluto. You've obviously got condescending and irritating wired, and would only need to add knowledgeability.
-Jay
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curt
Feb 17, 2004, 9:47 PM
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OOOoooohhhhhh Burrrrrrnnnnn!!!!!1111!!11 :lol:
Curt
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tucsonalex
Feb 17, 2004, 9:51 PM
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Yeah, below the belt Jay.
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jt512
Feb 17, 2004, 10:47 PM
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In reply to: Yeah, below the belt Jay.
I think that if you review his posting history, you'll agree that I was being quite accurate.
-Jay
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robgordon
Feb 17, 2004, 11:04 PM
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In reply to: Yeah, below the belt Jay.
What belt? this is the internet. duh. it was a well deserved B!tch slap.
This thread keeps getting better and better.
I KILL YOU!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa!1
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camhead
Feb 17, 2004, 11:15 PM
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this is one of the most entertaining threads that I have ever seen.
dorks. all of you.
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climbsomething
Feb 17, 2004, 11:15 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Yeah, below the belt Jay. What belt? this is the internet. duh. it was a well deserved B!tch slap. This thread keeps getting better and better. I KILL YOU!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa!1 |
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tucsonalex
Feb 17, 2004, 11:15 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Yeah, below the belt Jay. I think that if you review his posting history, you'll agree that I was being quite accurate. -Jay
I wasn't implying that you were out of line, just that it was a damn good burn.
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climbsomething
Feb 17, 2004, 11:16 PM
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In reply to: this is one of the most entertaining threads that I have ever seen. dorks. all of you. |
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tucsonalex
Feb 17, 2004, 11:20 PM
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In reply to: this is one of the most entertaining threads that I have ever seen.
Wow, over 5500 posts and you say that about a thread I started. I'm honored. :D
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camhead
Feb 17, 2004, 11:21 PM
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thanks, hilary. I still can't figure out if I'm laughing at you or with you. either way, i'll make sure to ask you my next shoe question.
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robgordon
Feb 17, 2004, 11:36 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Yeah, below the belt Jay. What belt? this is the internet. duh. it was a well deserved B!tch slap. This thread keeps getting better and better. I KILL YOU!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa!1 Buttrockerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
oh god... speaking of below the belt...
that hurts girl. it HUURRTS
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