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I know a lot of Trad climbers and a lot of boulderers and the boulderers are always skinnier. Why is this?


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The trad climbers have decided to forego conditioning, so that they can focus on the mental toughness necessary for that 5.8 runout. You wouldn't understand. :P


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Twinkies and beef jerky and hoagie sandwiches don't fit in a chalk bag.


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yeah Ive noticed that too. maybe skinny people like bouldering better, since it takes less power to pull around less weight which makes the hard moves on a boulder problem easier for little people.

Do boulderers really condition?


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Personal experience; beer and age.


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Because skinny people tend to bonk faster on long trad routes. Plus, if you add 15 lbs of trad gear to your waist while climbing, you tend to build more muscle. I prefer to refer to my fat as insulation for alpine. :D


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If you have money for trad gear then you have money for food.


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I prefer to refer to my fat as insulation for alpine. :D

I agree totally. (Not that I'm saying Kim is fat... )

Insulation for those occasional forced bivies on a small ledge on the 9th pitch.

Ain't never heard of a boulderer having to bivy.


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In the situation that you run out of HoHos and beer by pitch nine, you can cannibalize your partner. I imagine a partner with the stature of "most" boulderers wouldn't give me enough protein to solo the rest of the route.


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Funny, I never thought of myself as being fat.


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Because skinny people tend to bonk faster on long trad routes. Plus, if you add 15 lbs of trad gear to your waist while climbing, you tend to build more muscle. :D

I am not talkin muscle, I am talking FAT!!! LOL

I know tradsters that will spend an extra 40 bucks on a parka beacause it weighs 2 ounces less look at you like an alien if suggest running a wee bit more or cutting back on the beer to lose a few pounds.


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all your answers lie here...

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...68&highlight=#717868


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i think this has to do with the following:
- trad takes time. time to learn, time to do, time to progress, time to build endurance. there's little instant gratification.
- trad is expensive. there's a $1000 entry fee to your local trad crag.
- bouldering is hard. a higher level of fitness is required to crank V4 than 5.4. trad climbing has more room for the beginning or unfit climber.
- boulderers tend to be younger for various reasons (more hype, less commitment, less expense) and, sadly, every day we are alive seems to be a another opportunity to sit on our butts, gain weight, lose fitness. as the bouldering community ages, it will grow less fit.


but what about this word fitness? "fitness" as used by the original poster seems to refer to visible qualities, muscles and fat, and possibly power. this is an incomplete measure of fitness. it does not include endurance (or mental fitness). climbing a 10 pitch 5.9 at 11,000 ft. is very different from climbing 25 problems in a day. toting a trad rack to the cliff and back is much more work than toting a pad, shoes and chalk pot.


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I'd be way more impressed with all this [troll] posing if even one out of thirty of the [young] boulderers that haunt your average gym could pull a V1 when run out 25-30 feet from their last placement on the eleventh pitch of a trad route above 4000 feet elevation...


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I'd be way more impressed with all this [troll] posing if even one out of thirty of the [young] boulderers that haunt your average gym could pull a V1 when run out 25-30 feet from their last placement on the eleventh pitch of a trad route above 4000 feet elevation...

Yeah....that'd be cool. Similarly it'd also be pretty cool if even one out of thirty of your (old, fat) trad climbers could pull a V1 anywhere. Too bad they mostly peak at difficulty levels too easy for said bouldering kids to warmup on.

:lol:


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Fracture...! Careful you're getting easy to troll... 8^)

And true back at you, and, hell besides, we want all these kids to stay ground pounders, the sky is crowded enough as is...


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Ah, I love the Stock Trad Rebuttal...

"Yeeerp, you beanie wearin' freaks wouldn't have a chance up there on pitch 729 of 5.6 Tower of Terror...Brother, those jugs thin out so bad you can barely get half your hand on 'em, and I once had to use just the toe of my shoe...the toe! Can you feature it?!?"

Fact of the matter is, there are people (Trotter, Caldwell, etc.) climbing trad and big wall almost as hard as the stoutest sport leads. Granted, nobody is coming close to pure bouldering in terms of crux move difficulty, simply because if you stuck a V15/16 crux on any sort of real endurance route, it'd be 5.18c or something preposterous. If you're going to defend trad, you might want to look there for support, not that played out "my sack is bigger than yours" chestnut.

But, Trad climbers of the world, please know that a 5.7 move is still a 5.7 move 5 feet off the deck or 5000. This is even truer if, as so many of you claim, a properly placed nut/cam/pinecone with a shoelace is just as strong as a bolt. If that's the case, then you're running out a sport route...like everybody else does. Congratulations.

Why are some Trad climbers fatter? Because they can be, I suppose. Go look at a V7 crimp...it's not that big...Given X surface area and Y skin adhesion, past a certain amount of weight, you just won't stick to it. I know a solid V10 climber who recently crimped his way through an overhanging dry tooling problem...sick...after a solid dinner of an egg white with some ketchup. He's about 130, and trying to diet back down to the healthy, healthy weight of 115 at about 5'9" tall.

Then you have to get a special spectra light-weight Prana beanie, I'm told.


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but what about this word fitness? "fitness" as used by the original poster seems to refer to visible qualities, muscles and fat, and possibly power. this is an incomplete measure of fitness.

I ain't talkin about fitness, I'm talking about fatness!!!!. Love Handles!!! Tubs of Jelly!!!! Pork Bellies!!!! Junk in the Trunk!!!! Beer Gut!!! Winter Fat!!!! Blubber!!!!!

Listening to some of you talk, you'd think fat leads to Endurance. Hell, call all the Olympic marathon runners and tell them to start eating the twinkies!!! If they want better endurance, they had better gain a few pounds.

About the only sport I can think of where fat helps is long distance swimming because that layer of blubber is more insulation. In Climbing (and I mean all types) being 10 lbs overweight means you have to haul an additional 10 lbs up the crag. If you want to have better endurance, any easy way is lose weight.

If anything, boulderers should be fatter than tradsters because theye are only going 10 feet not 1000.


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Ah, I love the Stock Trad Rebuttal...

Ah, and I love the Stock Boulderers Rebuttal: somewhere, somewhere there is a boulderer/sport climber doing hard trad. Again, if you look at the overall percentages of trad climbers that boulder/sport hard vs. the number of boulderers/sport folk that climb hard trad the trad folks have it all over you guys. As percentage of your numbers, only a small number of you lead trad at all, and of that number the majority exhibit the "deer in the headlights" syndrome about 10 feet out from their last piece of pro.

Gill [Bachar, etc.] led hard trad and bouldered hard, an example more of you might consider following given for all practical purposes he invented the activity. The fact that climbers are now spread out into a [spectral] gradient of a large base of boulderers, some of whom sport, and of those a few that trad is a sad result of two decades of gym climbing.

Pulling hard moves is only one third of the [trad] climbing experience - the fact that many if not most of you are either unwilling or unable to master the technical and emotional demands of trad climbing and opt for a one dimensional experience isn't something I'd brag about personally. Trolls such as this thread reflect a lack of respect for how your activity came to be and for folks capable of taking full responsibility for their existence in an aerial context somewhat higher than your average truffle hunt.

Any serious boulderer with a boredom threshold lower than your average suburbanite will eventually sport and then progress to trad, but most never escape the codependent confines of their social pod. Aspire to be more than one of the 99.9% that simply point out the fact that a Sharma or Caldwell can climb hard trad - get a rack and start leading - even if it means starting on a 5.6 and building up some stones to go with all those moves.


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ahhh it's so refreshing to hear a new twist on the my dick is bigger than your dick argument. so refreshing.... :roll:


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Yes, yes, it's all true. I (and presumably every other boulderer) have been relegated to the junior varsity rocks because of our inability to master the "technical and emotional demands of trad climbing". I, also, blame it on my "boredom threshold lower than your average suburbanite" and my lack of "stones" that has led me to seek comfort in my "codependent confines" of my "social pod".

I'm so glad that you "Hard Trad" folks have it "have it all over you guys"...since this is apparently some sort of a contest, and I wanted to know the score. I do so admire the cognitive flexibility that it takes to simultaneous assert intellectual, spiritual, emotional, physical and, let us not forget, "stones" superiority over all other disciplines.

You know, I shouldn't be surprised to have stirred up something like this. I do make fun of Trad people...about 1/3rd as much as I make fun of boulderers. The boulderers generally laugh about it, and some of the Trad people have an alarming tendency to get all bunged up and present an intellectual discourse on the superiority of thier interpretation of the sport.

The difference between you and I, friend, is I don't think any form of climbing is better than any other.


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I know a lot of Trad climbers and a lot of boulderers and the boulderers are always skinnier. Why is this?
So that the trad climbers can squash their skinny little wanking noob asses flat when they post inane puerile lamebrain twaddle like this.


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:lol: This is the reason internet forums exist. Last night at the gym I questioned a trad climber as to why he was wearing a weight vest. I reasoned that an extra ten pounds pulling down on your shoulders while resting against the abs was inefficient and non sport specific. A boulderer happened along and pulled me away, while trad climber started a route. Out of courtesy I returned to the trad climber and told him that the boulderer pointed out his balls weigh ten pounds. He fell off the route.


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I'm skinny and climb both do both.


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ahhh it's so refreshing to hear a new twist on the my dick is bigger than your dick argument. so refreshing.... :roll:


Maybe Trad climbers are packing on the pounds to compensate for something else?


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Yes I have notest that as well. I like to do both but I have friends that just do one or the other and I can see there is a weight difference.


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hahahahahaha - you're seroius re: topic?!

dunno - most of the people i climb w/ are all slender built - both boulders and trads...

maybe cause 1/2 my group are asian? ;)


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Same here. Even the ones approaching being stocky could use a bit healthier physique to be proper scandinavians :lol: At least no one took this seriously enough to spawn a response thread.


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The funny thing is I have now been branded as a "boulderer". I climb Trad far more than every other kind of climb. I think its interesting how somepeople reacted to this with a joke and others became all defensive.

My own opinion is the Boulderers go to the gym more often - applies to their sport alot more - and therefore get themselves into better shape. I think some boulderers take things to far. You shouldn't be able to count your ribs that easily.


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:lol: This is the reason internet forums exist. Last night at the gym I questioned a trad climber as to why he was wearing a weight vest. I reasoned that an extra ten pounds pulling down on your shoulders while resting against the abs was inefficient and non sport specific. A boulderer happened along and pulled me away, while trad climber started a route. Out of courtesy I returned to the trad climber and told him that the boulderer pointed out his balls weigh ten pounds. He fell off the route.

Actually, it's very sport specific if you use a shoulder or double shoulder gear sling. Probably should be twice that weight.

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Funny topics. Maybe , later, we will be talking about the hair length.
How to do V568 with short hair?????????
Muy divertido y "Trascendental"


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I'm fat 'cause I eat too damn much. Combine that with my lack of consistent exercise the past year or so, and my age as a variable...and you get a slower metabolism and a big lard ass like mine!

Now STFU and pass me my aiders and a bunch of those SLDCs, please. I'm going climbing.

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Well duh! :roll: How do expect us to see our foot placements over our giant beer bellies? Boulders are waaay to steep and you just can't get a good view over that enormous mass of belly. Conversely, if your on a 40 degree, super run-out, 5.3 slab it's really quite easy to look down and see what's going on with your feet.


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Simple
To trad you need a crag, and usually not the same old. Let's just say, on a good year, half of all weekends, or 26 times a year, a pure trad climber will get a workout.

A burly boulderer not only has the gym but any gunk he finds near her. She can get a workout twice a week, in her home town.

that and every trad climber I know likes to play video games. And video games are sweet.


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Now STFU and pass me my aiders and a bunch of those SLDCs, please. I'm going climbing.

Ed

How bout I pass you the mash potatoes and the Gravy first?? Maybe you want some Cheezy-Poofs.


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I know a lot of Trad climbers and a lot of boulderers and the boulderers are always skinnier. Why is this?

Wow what a quality post!! Thanks for your fine Contrabutions to this forum.


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Actually, it's likely because most serious boulderers nowadays aren't old enough, or have just recently turned old enough, to buy their own beer. :wink: :lol:


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Now STFU and pass me my aiders and a bunch of those SLDCs, please. I'm going climbing.

Ed

How bout I pass you the mash potatoes and the Gravy first?? Maybe you want some Cheezy-Poofs.

I'll take some!!!! mmmm cheesy crunchy goodness :)

Make sure the potatoes have loads of fresh french butter, loads of whole milk, and salt MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

blk

btw - not sure about others but for a semi-serious response. aside that i've got that asian thing going on - thank you genes! - i spend time doing other things then just climbing (although, time is spent both bouldering and trad) - i like hiking - cycling - swimming - and walking. also, tend to eat healthy as there's not a taste for fast food - other then french fries and blts mmmmmmmmmm


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I know a lot of Trad climbers and a lot of boulderers and the boulderers are always skinnier. Why is this?

Wow what a quality post!! Thanks for your fine Contrabutions to this forum.

Your Welcome. I'm touched that you enjoyed it. It came down to this or "Why do boulderers have more tatoos than tradsters?" But I think I chose the better post.


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I know a lot of Trad climbers and a lot of boulderers and the boulderers are always skinnier. Why is this?

Wow what a quality post!! Thanks for your fine Contrabutions to this forum.

Your Welcome. I'm touched that you enjoyed it. It came down to this or "Why do boulderers have more tatoos than tradsters?" But I think I chose the better post.

"Sarcasim" Wonderful!!


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I know a lot of Trad climbers and a lot of boulderers and the boulderers are always skinnier. Why is this?

Wow what a quality post!! Thanks for your fine Contrabutions to this forum.

Your Welcome. I'm touched that you enjoyed it. It came down to this or "Why do boulderers have more tatoos than tradsters?" But I think I chose the better post.

"Sarcasim" Wonderful!!

Its good to see that sarcasm (or sarcasim as you Canadians call it) is as alive in Regina as it is in New Jersey. Sometimes it is lost on people but I am glad you catch it. I really intended this post to be a satire of the whole Boulder/ Sport/ Trad/ Alpine argument, not part of the argument.

And remember, eat your twinkies and someday you can be a trad climber.


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I climb almost exclusively trad, with some sport and occasional bouldering.

My body fat percentage is 2.5%.

I'm not fat.


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and you are a better climber because of it.


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Actually, it's likely because most serious boulderers nowadays aren't old enough, or have just recently turned old enough, to buy their own beer. :wink: :lol:

Yes! Someone finally understands! HaHa


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At the risk of getting shouted at, I just wanted to say this: I think we should try and drop the insults and the bravado. I see the climbing community getting to be divided. Boulderers, Trad climbers, sport climbers, big wallers, etc and so on, and none of them seem to like each other very much. Don't you think that if we keep insulting each other we're going to be divided into entirely different communities? I think the argument I see here is which is better, trad or bouldering? Why does one have to be better? I love them both, and if that makes me a traitor then so be it. Both have awesome aspects, bouldering, the intensity of the movement, the power, the purity of motion, trad, the endurance, the terror, the beauty, the solitude, the grace. I hate the overcrowdedness and cliques in the bouldering circles, I detest the gruff diffidence of trad climbers. Just understand we all climb for our own personal reasons, and one is no better than the other.

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I second this thought. The branding of being a boulderer, sport climber or tradster is inane. We are all climbers. If it wasn't for bouldering, trad would not have progressed to the point where it is today. There would be no trad routes over 5.9. Bouldering is what pushed the pioneers (John Long, Jim Bridwell, Ron kauk, Peter Croft etc.) of trad climbing to try higher, and harder routes. Bottom line is there is a need for both styes of climbing and they compliment each other quite well. In addition I have seen fat boulderes and skinny tradsters.

Cheers


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Amen to that, man. I think that it would do most trad climbers a world of good to get in a bouldering session now and then, and I know it would do most boulderers the same to actually put on a harness and learn about the history and fun of climbing now and then. When you can see the good in all climbing and excel at all aspects, you can call yourself a seasoned climber.


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At the risk of getting shouted at, I just wanted to say this: I think we should try and drop the insults and the bravado. I see the climbing community getting to be divided. Boulderers, Trad climbers, sport climbers, big wallers, etc and so on, and none of them seem to like each other very much. Don't you think that if we keep insulting each other we're going to be divided into entirely different communities? I think the argument I see here is which is better, trad or bouldering? Why does one have to be better? I love them both, and if that makes me a traitor then so be it. Both have awesome aspects, bouldering, the intensity of the movement, the power, the purity of motion, trad, the endurance, the terror, the beauty, the solitude, the grace. I hate the overcrowdedness and cliques in the bouldering circles, I detest the gruff diffidence of trad climbers. Just understand we all climb for our own personal reasons, and one is no better than the other.

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Allright, Allright. Let's buy each other cokes, sing Kum By Ya, and have a group hug. Tradsters and Boulderers can live in peace with each other and unite.


......to beat up those damned sportclimbers! I mean whats up with them. They are not as Fat as Tradsters, not as skinny as boulderers. If there is one thing I hate, it's this shilly shallying. Either get your ass down to the all you can eat China Buffet or start taking creatine!


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Im down for Kum By yah


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cuz they get fat wasting time sittin on their ass talkin sh*t about boulderers


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God those sport climbers suck, they should choose between fat and skinny... I mean is it that hard.

I really only see one solution to this age old problem... have an all out brawl between sport, boulderers, traddies, alpine, big wall, ice and every sub-group of the climbing world and have a big fight. So obviously the best will win!

And at the end whoever is left can sing Kum By Ya


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i dunno im a boulderer and im quite fat :( ....mind you i use my harness every now and then.


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im with you man. i went climbing with a friend who is trad climber (and is quite fat but hes cool) and i had a lot more strength and endurance seeing as ther was part of the 70 odd foot climb that i had to canvas, he had more mental strenth than me though (i.e. bollocks) hehehehehe


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I am now looking for a boulderer to take trad climbing. All my normal trad partners weigh quite a bit more than I do and I am sick of getting yanked really hard every time they fall (I am serious).








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im a boulderer and im 76% body fat.

i lied.

trads are fat, boulderers are ugly, sports smell funny and alpines are cold and dont allow anyone to get close...now, free solos...thats a sport.

is it bad or even innapropriate that im a boulderer going into sport? is that like the cubs playing for the sox? or the SS joing the allied powers?

i am my own man! im 6'4" and i only weigh 210!


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I prefer to think of myself as drought and famine resistant... :roll:


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Actually, it's likely because most serious boulderers nowadays aren't old enough, or have just recently turned old enough, to buy their own beer.

You know, I thought this too, once, but I've discovered the real truth:

Being fatter makes it easier to keep our pants up around our waist, where the Good Lord intended them to be, rather than hanging off our ass so the whole world can look at our boxers.


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duh. bolderers are all gacked up on dexedrine for their adhd.. hence they never eat.

GAK!


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I think it'd be a great fight between all the climbing sub groups. If the boulderes or sporties got a hand on you they'd squeeze the life out of you. The trad climbers would all be swinging #10 hexes...the big wallers would come equipped with hammers..probably the ice climbers would win though, a big axe is the ace of spades! :)


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I prefer to think of myself as drought and famine resistant... :roll:

That's Awesome - Ofcourse you would be the first one eaten on an epic - a boulderer wouldn't provide a mouthful.


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I'm skinny 6.2 170 lbs and can trad with the best. i eat a shit load of crap too. Fat food and beer are the best. atfer a good day of hard bouldering i head on down to the happy bar and drink buds wit the bikers. Morrison Co if you must Know.


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What makes you think trad climbers arent boulderers?


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If you have money for trad gear then you have money for food.

This is the exact reason right here.

All my friends who boulder are either students with no jobs or students with part time jobs so they can afford Ramen for the week.


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ROTFLMMFAO, TSDMF! How did i miss this thread when it first appeared? Oh, yeah... the ice sucked so I was too busy learning to ski.


Oh well, keep up the good work!


BTW, I will be swinging the #10 Hex while brandishing an ice axe, with a wall hammer stuffed behind my belt just in case. Better run!


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trad climbers? stress eating. boulderers? i was skinny at 17, too. sportos? you can't be too skinny or too fat and still wear spandex. hello. ice climbers? freaking weirdos live in caves anyway, so who really knows?

why don't you morons debate something useful to the climbing community. like: which style has the hottest chicks? and: how does one meet said hot chicks (btw if the girl i saw filling up her jeep at the gas station outside eldo this weekend is reading this: i will marry you tomorrow).


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This thread is AWESOME

I know why because boulders are poor dumpster diving fools. They can only afford a pad, some shoes, and some ramen.

You gotta be rich to trad climb....you have to pay for all the shiny gear and like two ropes. So of course they are fat and happy and rich.


did I mention threads like this rock. :twisted:


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why don't you morons debate something useful to the climbing community. like: which style has the hottest chicks? and: how does one meet said hot chicks (btw if the girl i saw filling up her jeep at the gas station outside eldo this weekend is reading this: i will marry you tomorrow).

I guess the style depends if you like fat chicks or not. I go for Sport Girls. Spandex is awesome.


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If you have money for trad gear then you have money for food.
This is the exact reason right here.
All my friends who boulder are either students with no jobs or students with part time jobs so they can afford Ramen for the week.
My Rack of nuts and cams was just a little over the price I paid for my massive voodoo crash pad. So I would disagree about the money part. In Utah where I grew up the boulderers had JUST as much money because they had to drive 3-4 hours south all the time to go and boulder in Price and Joes Valley where the trad climbers saved money on gas and bought cams and nuts to go climb 20 minutes away.
I think this is a funny thread though.
Boulderers think everyone is lazy. Trad Climbers think everyone else is a pussy. What do sport climbers think?


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I know a lot of Trad climbers and a lot of boulderers and the boulderers are always skinnier. Why is this?
DUH bouldering takes a lot of upper body strength.... A LOT!
Climb on
Chris


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phaedrus moved this thread from Bouldering to Community.


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not sure about others but for a semi-serious response. aside that i've got that asian thing going on - thank you genes!

What kind of Asians are you meeting? Many of my Asian friends have a little over-flow going on. There's this one friend who's just finished med school (stereotypical, right? He also plays violin. Just kidding, but he is good at math) and he has major over-flow. Not enough to stop him form having a Lychee-babe of a girlfriend.

Lychee . . . mmmmmmm. BTW, it's Sunday morning, is it not? So, where's my dim-sum?

Here's my two cents: most of those who tend to be of the older crowd. With age comes a slower metabolism and more consumed beer and other fatty foods. That's it. I'm glad I'm young and my physique has helped me with my trad.


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Comical little thread.

IME- no, tradstes are NOT compensating for anything.

If you were rich before getting into to trad, you certainly aren't afterwards.

And god love 'em, the traddies are bigger because of beer, whiskey and other time-honored rituals of the Dirt-Bag! :D

On that note, time to take my fat trad-loving ass for a run. :roll:


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What do sport climbers think?

They don't.


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I trad, I boulder and sport climb. I weigh 140 soaking wet and am probably close to 3 percent body fat(if that). Maybe the why are aid climbers fatter might be more appropriate haha.


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