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pinktricam
Jul 22, 2005, 4:56 PM
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I recently finished a very cool and very well researched "Egyptian Sun disc." I also finished a 9'-4" palm tree on a lovely base. Both of these works were done in copper and brass. Both include meticulous detail. One is based on a hieroglyph and the other on, well, a palm tree.
I've had numerous lookers (dozens), but not one remotely interested in the sun disc, a piece that I'm quite proud of. I didn't even have the palm tree completed before it was immediately sold to the third person I'd shown it to....granted, I live in Florida...granted, I've been comissioned to create palm trees in steel on an epic scale and in copper and brass in less than epic scales....My fear is that someday I'll be refered to only as the 'palm tree guy.' That would hurt me terribly. I'd stop making them, but the fact is that they pay off very well. I can practically make them with my eyes closed and in little time. What a dilemma :?
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edge
Jul 22, 2005, 4:59 PM
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I would like to see pics of your artwork.
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j_ung
Jul 22, 2005, 5:07 PM
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Maybe explore different themes of palm trees. I know it doesn't really solve your problem, but hey, it's a little different and money's money. Ch-ching!
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krillen
Jul 22, 2005, 5:07 PM
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Pfffftt...so you have a JOB like the rest of us :) Do the palm trees to give yourself the freedom to do the fun stuff when you can. Eventually someone will want the sundial (keep showing it, word of mouth works wonders) and if not, well...you've got a great decoration ;) Unfortunately Art works that way. At least you can make a living from it....unlike most artists who have to do their art on their own time....AFTER working their regular job.
Don't overlook your admirable situation ;)
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pinktricam
Jul 22, 2005, 5:12 PM
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I've sworn to get a website up this year. My brother just purchased a killer digital Canon SLR and said he'd help me out with the site. I'll be scanning some pics of my work next week so I can send them to a couple of contacts I've recently made. If you'd like, PM me your e-mail address and I'll send along a few pics you may appreciate, Lorne.
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traddad
Jul 22, 2005, 5:13 PM
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I like Mapplethorpe. You?
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pinktricam
Jul 22, 2005, 5:23 PM
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taualum23
Jul 22, 2005, 5:30 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I like Mapplethorpe. You? Maplethorpe sought only to shock and enrage the public. His 'art' merits little consideration in a historical context. Much like my dilemma about being refered to as the 'palm treee guy,' Maplethorpe will always be remembered as the 'crucifix in piss guy.'
Perhaps. But he did encourage a healthy debate as to what the "purpose" of art in society was (is). If it got people talking about what is "art" and whether shock and rage (and possible even thinking) are, in and of themself, a sign of strong (if not "good") art.
I don't happen to like his art, as what it does for/to me is not what I want art to do to/for me personally, but I think it served a purpose that is rather important, and to have the poublic stand up and discuss what is and is not art, and what that art's role should/can be.
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traddad
Jul 22, 2005, 5:30 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I like Mapplethorpe. You? Maplethorpe sought only to shock and enrage the public. His 'art' merits little consideration in a historical context. Much like my dilemma about being refered to as the 'palm treee guy,' Maplethorpe will always be remembered as the 'crucifix in piss guy.'
Actually, that was Serrano....like him too?
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taualum23
Jul 22, 2005, 5:33 PM
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Quite correct. PTC and I are both humbled (if I may speak for him)
But I actually do really like Mapplethorpe's work. His eye towards the beauty in the male and female human form is inspiring.
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zozo
Jul 22, 2005, 5:33 PM
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In reply to: Much like my dilemma about being refered to as the 'palm treee guy,' Maplethorpe will always be remembered as the 'crucifix in piss guy.'
That was Andres Serrano. Get a clue!
Edit: Dammit Tradad you beat me to it. Fine piece of work by the way.
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pinktricam
Jul 22, 2005, 5:39 PM
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I stand corrected...it's hard to keep all the pervs straight..heh, get it...pervs straight.
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zozo
Jul 22, 2005, 5:41 PM
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In reply to: I stand corrected...it's hard to keep all the pervs straight..heh, get it...pervs straight.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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Whew.....good one!
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wideguy
Jul 22, 2005, 5:47 PM
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In reply to: That self portrait with the bullwhip inserted in his a$$ wasn't the least bit inspiring. :lol:
I was gonna say, being know as the "bullwhip in my own ass"guy is somehow preferable to being known as the "crucifix in piss" guy?
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taualum23
Jul 22, 2005, 5:59 PM
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Yes, he has some, uh, controversial, picutres. What of his more "artsy" ones? Those were the photos I was refering to.
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ikefromla
Jul 22, 2005, 7:33 PM
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and to the ignorant, Duchamp will always be known as "the urinal guy." although i'll always refer to him as "the guy that quit painting to play chess."
if you feel the people buying your palm trees don't understand the value of your other work, don't take it personally. sell what you need (and think to yourself what a bunch of idiots they are.) but I would suggest that to keep out of "the palm tree guy" rut, continue to create other work and show it (got an accessible gallery space? know anyone who does?)
just don't turn into another "cutesy cottages and forests guy" *cough*kinkade*cough*
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traddad
Jul 22, 2005, 7:39 PM
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In reply to: just don't turn into another "cutesy cottages and forests guy" *cough*kinkade*cough*
Why....He's the "Painter of Light!!!"
Excuse me...I need to drink heavily.....
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pinktricam
Jul 22, 2005, 7:47 PM
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Traddad,
Good point on Picasso's Guernica in the Oval Office. However, did you know that his most controversial painting was his Les Demoiselles d'Avignon? It was truly groundbreaking and quite despised by contemporary critics, yet remains one of my very favorites for pushing the boundaries of 'art.'
http://www.english.ucsb.edu/...asso-demoiselles.jpg
Actually I'd love to be known as the 'wildlife guy'....my coral reef scenes, wading and birds of prey sculptures have been my most inspired...but then again, there was a piece I once made based on a Biblical verse (Jn 15:5) that brought actual tears (of joy) to the eyes of a few at its unveiling.
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jpdreamer
Jul 22, 2005, 8:02 PM
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Eh, palm trees aren't too terrible. I mean, at least they're not flamingos. I would think there'd be a pretty healthy market in Florida for reef scenes as a metalwork subject.
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