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shank
Sep 28, 2002, 7:17 PM
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Well went up to Draper's and started the route C(5.7) and ended up bailing at the traverse. Left A #7, #8, #9 nut, A quickdraw, 2 24"runners and 6 wiregate biners. If you want the stuff go and get it.
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topher
Sep 28, 2002, 9:30 PM
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wow thats alot of gear to be leaving. if i was in your shoes i would be crying right about now.
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orangekyak
Sep 28, 2002, 10:13 PM
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might drive my arse out there to get the booty
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madclimberboy
Sep 28, 2002, 11:07 PM
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I'm on the next plane to Nashville (or Memphis)
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poorclimberboy
Sep 28, 2002, 11:11 PM
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WOA!!!! free gear!!! I'm there no matter how long i have to drive my mini bus to get there
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mnutz
Sep 28, 2002, 11:32 PM
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Be careful troopers, sounds like it could be a trap!
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mnutz
Sep 28, 2002, 11:33 PM
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Be careful troopers, sounds like it could be a trap!
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paintinhaler
Sep 29, 2002, 12:45 AM
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Good call. I bet its gone now anyway.
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andy_lemon
Sep 30, 2002, 5:41 PM
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I left my #4 nut at Jackson Falls a couple weekends ago. It is on a new trad route that isn't in the guidebook. You go down the dogwalk and head tward Hardy Boys Crack, before you get there you will be upon a overhang with bolt routes and a 5.7 crack. I couldn't remove it with my nut tool so... GET YOUR BOOTY!
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flyinsquirel
Dec 14, 2002, 7:49 PM
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retrived a whole $#!&load of quickdraws the weekend of october 13 in jackson falls, 6 bd draws and 3 petzl biners, and there were a couple more draws on another route, that im sad to say i could not finish but yea, its right by the cheerio bowl if anybody wants the draws...
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flying_dutchman
Dec 14, 2002, 7:57 PM
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i left a #3, and 5 camlot, 4 biners and 2 two foot slings to make repell anchors at... wait, why am i telling anyone this?
why are u guys advertising all this left behind free gear; i would go back and try to retrieve it myself and hope it was still there. As for the draws someone found, ur gonna get some sportclimbers going on witch hunts after finding their stuff gone on their project. Ah screw it, grab a quickdraw if u see one, thats their fault for leaving em
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benkiessel
Dec 14, 2002, 8:14 PM
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I agree with the dutchman, what would make you tell people where your gear is? and taking draws off someones project is bad luck, and climbers need all the luck they can get.
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misha
Dec 14, 2002, 8:51 PM
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Flyin squirel, in case you didn't know people left the draws there on purpose! That means that they have yet to complete the route and left them up because they knew that they would be attempting the route again soon. If i were you i would go put the draws back, unless you don't mind stealing.
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boz84
Dec 14, 2002, 9:58 PM
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This topic has already been covered.
if youleave the draws, their fair game.
If they mean that much to you, take em with you when youre done.
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jds100
Dec 14, 2002, 11:38 PM
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Wrong! This topic has been covered, but it by no means is automatic that draws left on a route are "fair game". It's just plain stupid, if you see draws left on multiple bolts on a route, to assume that someone bailed and couldn't retrieve them.
People live in and near Jackson Falls, and it is not unusual at all to leave draws on a route that their working. It's unlikely that there was a line forming to work whatever route these draws were incorrectly taken from, so the climbers could have been taking a break, planning to come back the next hour, the next day, -whatever. Finding and taking the quantity of gear that you mention is not typical for climbers in southern Illinois; bragging about it definitely not.
Especially if the draws were taken from the same route, that's just kinda dumb to assume that they're booty, and take them. The route next to Cheerio Bowl can easily be rigged for rapping and TR, so any draws left on it were either from working the route, or from laziness.
Well, thanks for the warning. Now that we Know you're climbing there, we'll be sure to hoist our packs up into trees while we're belaying and climbing, so you won't come along and find more "booty gear".
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andy_lemon
Dec 15, 2002, 12:07 AM
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Quote:The route next to Cheerio Bowl can easily be rigged for rapping and TR
The new mixed route to the left?
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andy_lemon
Dec 15, 2002, 12:13 AM
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And to let you know, I advertised that I had left one piece of gear (#3 Metolius Nut) on a route because I fell on it and it was stuck. I tried for 45 minutes to retreive it and gave up. Rather than just letting it sit there on the rock face, collecting dust, rusting, being a continual eyesore... I would want someone to take it out if they thought they could.
Andy
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jds100
Dec 15, 2002, 12:19 AM
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Yo, Andy! I'm not sure if we're talking about the same route, but there are two pretty tough routes around the corner from the start of Cheerio Bowl. The bottom of both routes start on pretty big stuff, and, yeah, I guess that part could be protected with trad gear, up to the harder part where the bolts begin.
We've TRd 'em by topping out on Cheerio Bowl and walking over to the anchors of the two new routes. Keep the climber on belay (of course), and the rope pretty much goes behind a few trees as you walk over to the anchors. It really isn't a sketchy deal to set up TR on 'em; you're not leaning way over the side, and all that stuff that we can run into every now and then down there.
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andy_lemon
Dec 15, 2002, 12:38 AM
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We are talking about the same route, I thought that was the one you described. I climbed that route to the first bolt and then came back down. Very tuff after the trad section.
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mnutz
Dec 15, 2002, 1:09 AM
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Flyinsquirel,
It is NOT cool to take draws someone left on a route. Obviously this was not bail gear, it was someone workin' on something.
I notice that you did say to contact you if you are the owner, but they should have been left up in the first place.
As JDS pointed out, several of us do live near J-Falls. Some people seem to have the mis-conception that Jackson Falls is in the middle of nowhere. Well, That is completely true, but some of us live quite near nowhere and frequent nowhere frequently.
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andy_lemon
Dec 15, 2002, 8:12 PM
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Quote:but some of us live quite near nowhere and frequent nowhere frequently.
hu hu..
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