ok, my girlfriend and I are in disagreement on this. I say that, any time you throw for something,your feet cut, and your body swings out, that is a dyno. Even if you are keeping a lower hand on the hold, such as this:
it is still a dyno.
My gf, on the other hand, says that only an "all points off" dyno is a true dyno. Anything less is just a deadpoint (I actually say that a deadpoint is any dynamic move in which one or no feet come off)
so, poll up, yo. I'm interested to see the results.
I chose "other," because you're both wrong. "Dyno," is short for dynamic movement. Everything from the tiniest pop to to the biggest all-points-off throw is accomplished by generating momentum, riding that momentum to the target hold and then grabbing for it at the deadpoint (in this context when forward progress ends but before gravity takes over), therefore, all of those are "dynoes." This is not a subjective definition. If some fool now chimes in with, "But I was taught that..." then that fool was probably taught by another fool.
I'll allow, though, that in the right context, for example a dyno competition, rather than both of you being wrong, both of of you could be considered right.
I chose "other," because you're both wrong. "Dyno," is short for dynamic movement. Everything from the tiniest pop to to the biggest all-points-off throw is accomplished by generating momentum, riding that momentum to the target hold and then grabbing for it at the deadpoint (in this context when forward progress ends but before gravity takes over), therefore, all of those are "dynoes." This is not a subjective definition. If some fool now chimes in with, "But I was taught that..." then that fool was probably taught by another fool.
I'll allow, though, that in the right context, for example a dyno competition, rather than both of you being wrong, both of of you could be considered right.
if someone tells you they did a "dyno", what do you take that to mean? not a tiny pop. that is the context that i am talking about, dyno as generally understood when describing things in conversation.
this originally arose when camhead was telling me about some route they were tryng, that it had a "dyno" in it, but that most people didnt take their feet off. i was like wtf are you talking about.
ok, jung, but what about for specific "dyno problems," since this is in the bouldering forum?
And majid, you are right. the reason that my gf is really mad at me is because the other day we were fooling around, and I went to tie her up, but all I had were core strands from my 11mm static line. I tied her up, but then my chonson snagged on the strand, and it fricking broke! the strand, not my chonson. thanks a lot, dude.
I chose "other," because you're both wrong. "Dyno," is short for dynamic movement. Everything from the tiniest pop to to the biggest all-points-off throw is accomplished by generating momentum, riding that momentum to the target hold and then grabbing for it at the deadpoint (in this context when forward progress ends but before gravity takes over), therefore, all of those are "dynoes." This is not a subjective definition. If some fool now chimes in with, "But I was taught that..." then that fool was probably taught by another fool.
ok, jung, but what about for specific "dyno problems," since this is in the bouldering forum?
And majid, you are right. the reason that my gf is really mad at me is because the other day we were fooling around, and I went to tie her up, but all I had were core strands from my 11mm static line. I tied her up, but then my chonson snagged on the strand, and it fricking broke! the strand, not my chonson. thanks a lot, dude.
Cam
I am telling you man, ladies have a different way of communicating especially when it comes to their personal needs. This Dyno debate is only to tell you that your odometer is near the 100K and you started burring oil. I am sure she would leave you soon for some other younger rat but just do not feel bad ok. You can always dyno by yourself.
Of course j_ung is right. A dyno is anything that is not static. Static is where you can freeze frame and hold any intermediate position in the "move" for several seconds. But what we have here is a classic evolution of the language. And, as is typical - the girls seem to be more evolved then the boys.
she is my fiancee, but that term is just kind of weird. it smacks of "oh, after extensive negotiation between my representatives and the representatives of clausti's father, we came to an agreeable purchase price of seventy three cows and two dozen sturdily-built negros, in exchange for her being now called my fiancee."
ok, jung, but what about for specific "dyno problems," since this is in the bouldering forum?
And majid, you are right. the reason that my gf is really mad at me is because the other day we were fooling around, and I went to tie her up, but all I had were core strands from my 11mm static line. I tied her up, but then my chonson snagged on the strand, and it fricking broke! the strand, not my chonson. thanks a lot, dude.
Cam
I am telling you man, ladies have a different way of communicating especially when it comes to their personal needs. This Dyno debate is only to tell you that your odometer is near the 100K and you started burring oil. I am sure she would leave you soon for some other younger rat but just do not feel bad ok. You can always dyno by yourself.
Well, I've participated in a few Running Dyno Competitions (RDC) in my day, so I'm somewhat of an authority ("ah-thor-a-tie").
Let me start off by saying you're both wrong, and it's both of your faults.
I mostly agree with J_ung, however I usually reserve the term 'Dyno' for the big throws. For example, one might say:
"I don't understand the enjoyment of spending your entire day on these pebbles that consist of two easy moves and a jump"
When it comes to the short pops, as J_ung called them, I usually refer to them as dynamic movements. For example:
"No you ignorant, pre-pubescent, un-bathed, pathetic excuse for a climber, I will not ‘just grab’ that hold, I will do it statically instead of lunging for every hold like a God-damned amphetamine addict having a seizure. If it wasn’t pouring rain outside I wouldn’t be in this damn gym. Go campus somebody else’s project.”
camhead wrote:
imnotclever wrote:
I thought she was your fiancee.
she is my fiancee, but that term is just kind of weird. it smacks of "oh, after extensive negotiation between my representatives and the representatives of clausti's father, we came to an agreeable purchase price of seventy three cows and two dozen sturdily-built negros, in exchange for her being now called my fiancee."
Dude, you paid 73 cows and two dozen negros for Clausti
I wouldn't have gone a hair over 50 cows. They can have the negros, ever since this Civil Rights movement I can't get them to do no work.
(This post was edited by Arrogant_Bastard on May 23, 2008, 4:46 PM)
she is my fiancee, but that term is just kind of weird. it smacks of "oh, after extensive negotiation between my representatives and the representatives of clausti's father, we came to an agreeable purchase price of seventy three cows and two dozen sturdily-built negros, in exchange for her being now called my fiancee."
Dude, you paid 73 cows and two dozen negros for Clausti
I wouldn't have gone a hair over 50 cows. They can have the negros, ever since this Civil Rights movement I can't get them to do no work.
yeah, I actually think that I paid too much; I mean, I can't even keep her tied down with core strands!
Okay, so anything with dynamic movement is a "dyno". Technically yes. But in terms of describing climbing moves (for me):
dyno - large dynamic move, generally where you feet cut, where you cannot recover if you miss your target.
deadpoint - small to medium dynamic move, where typically at least one foot remains on the wall, which is possible to recover from if you miss (though generally with difficulty).
Okay, so anything with dynamic movement is a "dyno". Technically yes. But in terms of describing climbing moves (for me):
dyno - large dynamic move, generally where you feet cut, where you cannot recover if you miss your target.
deadpoint - small to medium dynamic move, where typically at least one foot remains on the wall, which is possible to recover from if you miss (though generally with difficulty).
A deadpoint has nothing to do with the size of the move, it's hitting the hold right at the apex of the movement (i.e. zero vertical velocity). I think it's most impressive on the big moves, it looks really odd when their body suddenly stops moving.
Okay, so anything with dynamic movement is a "dyno". Technically yes. But in terms of describing climbing moves (for me):
dyno - large dynamic move, generally where you feet cut, where you cannot recover if you miss your target.
deadpoint - small to medium dynamic move, where typically at least one foot remains on the wall, which is possible to recover from if you miss (though generally with difficulty).
A deadpoint has nothing to do with the size of the move, it's hitting the hold right at the apex of the movement (i.e. zero vertical velocity). I think it's most impressive on the big moves, it looks really odd when their body suddenly stops moving.
Whatever. Its not like I'm a boulderer or anything, I like my rope.
Heck, I don't even look good in a bennie! (or even a touque!)
ok, jung, but what about for specific "dyno problems," since this is in the bouldering forum?
And majid, you are right. the reason that my gf is really mad at me is because the other day we were fooling around, and I went to tie her up, but all I had were core strands from my 11mm static line. I tied her up, but then my chonson snagged on the strand, and it fricking broke! the strand, not my chonson. thanks a lot, dude.
Cam
I am telling you man, ladies have a different way of communicating especially when it comes to their personal needs. This Dyno debate is only to tell you that your odometer is near the 100K and you started burring oil. I am sure she would leave you soon for some other younger rat but just do not feel bad ok. You can always dyno by yourself.
ok, jung, but what about for specific "dyno problems," since this is in the bouldering forum?
And majid, you are right. the reason that my gf is really mad at me is because the other day we were fooling around, and I went to tie her up, but all I had were core strands from my 11mm static line. I tied her up, but then my chonson snagged on the strand, and it fricking broke! the strand, not my chonson. thanks a lot, dude.
Cam
I am telling you man, ladies have a different way of communicating especially when it comes to their personal needs. This Dyno debate is only to tell you that your odometer is near the 100K and you started burring oil. I am sure she would leave you soon for some other younger rat but just do not feel bad ok. You can always dyno by yourself.
hey majid how about you shut the fuck up. eh?
You must be Cam's GF
Nice to know you too
You obviously don't understand the process of shuttting the fuck up.
ok, jung, but what about for specific "dyno problems," since this is in the bouldering forum?
And majid, you are right. the reason that my gf is really mad at me is because the other day we were fooling around, and I went to tie her up, but all I had were core strands from my 11mm static line. I tied her up, but then my chonson snagged on the strand, and it fricking broke! the strand, not my chonson. thanks a lot, dude.
Cam
I am telling you man, ladies have a different way of communicating especially when it comes to their personal needs. This Dyno debate is only to tell you that your odometer is near the 100K and you started burring oil. I am sure she would leave you soon for some other younger rat but just do not feel bad ok. You can always dyno by yourself.
hey majid how about you shut the fuck up. eh?
You must be Cam's GF
Nice to know you too
You obviously don't understand the process of shuttting the fuck up.
with over 37 posts per day, obviously neither due you.
ok, jung, but what about for specific "dyno problems," since this is in the bouldering forum?
And majid, you are right. the reason that my gf is really mad at me is because the other day we were fooling around, and I went to tie her up, but all I had were core strands from my 11mm static line. I tied her up, but then my chonson snagged on the strand, and it fricking broke! the strand, not my chonson. thanks a lot, dude.
Cam
I am telling you man, ladies have a different way of communicating especially when it comes to their personal needs. This Dyno debate is only to tell you that your odometer is near the 100K and you started burring oil. I am sure she would leave you soon for some other younger rat but just do not feel bad ok. You can always dyno by yourself.
hey majid how about you shut the fuck up. eh?
You must be Cam's GF
Nice to know you too
You obviously don't understand the process of shuttting the fuck up.
with over 37 posts per day, obviously neither due you.
ok, jung, but what about for specific "dyno problems," since this is in the bouldering forum?
And majid, you are right. the reason that my gf is really mad at me is because the other day we were fooling around, and I went to tie her up, but all I had were core strands from my 11mm static line. I tied her up, but then my chonson snagged on the strand, and it fricking broke! the strand, not my chonson. thanks a lot, dude.
Cam
I am telling you man, ladies have a different way of communicating especially when it comes to their personal needs. This Dyno debate is only to tell you that your odometer is near the 100K and you started burring oil. I am sure she would leave you soon for some other younger rat but just do not feel bad ok. You can always dyno by yourself.
hey majid how about you shut the fuck up. eh?
You must be Cam's GF
Nice to know you too
You obviously don't understand the process of shuttting the fuck up.
with over 37 posts per day, obviously neither due you.
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