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climberslacker
Nov 30, 2009, 1:06 AM
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Hey guys!
My parents just asked me what I want for christmas  , so naturally I said climbing gear. They asked what specifically.
So I have
5 locking 'biners (how many more should I have, 3 are on belay devises)
8 assorted non locking (how many more should I have, this does not include biners used in racking)
Set of Camalots: 5-.75 and a .4 (should I get a full set, what should I get doubles on?)
~5 24" sewn runners, and assorted cordelette, like a 40' length of 8mm cordellete (Should I get more, thinking about maybe a longer sewn runner)
Full set of BD stoppers (not the REALLY baby ones, but you know)
1-7 hex's
What else should I get?
Thanks!
-CS
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sungam
Nov 30, 2009, 1:20 AM
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You'll want to end up with 10 or 12 slingdraws/extendo's if you're looking to get into longer trad routes or alpine climbing.
Do you have a rope?
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climberslacker
Nov 30, 2009, 1:25 AM
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Yup, I have a rope, and hopefully getting another one as we often go in a fairly large group. They mostly wanna get me little stuff like biners, and maybe a cam or too, but I also need advise for christmas money  So How many more biners should I get, and also what should I double up on as far as cams go?
-CS
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subantz
Nov 30, 2009, 1:27 AM
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climberslacker wrote: What else should I get? Thanks!-CS
A life.
Oh and a full set of cams and C4's, C3's Stoppers and C4;s a 1,2,3,.3
C3's 00,0,1,2
Stoppers 4-13
maybe double the .75,1,2, C4 cams and the stoppers,
Also get a pink and red tricam.
You are also going to need a life to go with all that!
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sungam
Nov 30, 2009, 1:28 AM
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climberslacker wrote: Yup, I have a rope, and hopefully getting another one as we often go in a fairly large group. They mostly wanna get me little stuff like biners, and maybe a cam or too, but I also need advise for christmas money So How many more biners should I get, and also what should I double up on as far as cams go? -CS
What do you expect to be using them for?
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lena_chita
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Nov 30, 2009, 1:31 AM
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climberslacker wrote: Hey guys! My parents just asked me what I want for christmas , so naturally I said climbing gear. They asked what specifically. So I have 5 locking 'biners (how many more should I have, 3 are on belay devises) 8 assorted non locking (how many more should I have, this does not include biners used in racking) Set of Camalots: 5-.75 and a .4 (should I get a full set, what should I get doubles on?) ~5 24" sewn runners, and assorted cordelette, like a 40' length of 8mm cordellete (Should I get more, thinking about maybe a longer sewn runner) Full set of BD stoppers (not the REALLY baby ones, but you know) 1-7 hex's What else should I get? Thanks! -CS
Two thoughts:
1. if you are expecting to get ALL that, you have a heck of a wealthy parents. Are they looking to adopt, by any chance? I won't ask for that much...
2. How the heck would we know what you need? What do you already have? What do you climb? what do you plan to climb? And if you don't know what you need, do you really need it?
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sungam
Nov 30, 2009, 1:33 AM
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lena_chita wrote: climberslacker wrote: Hey guys! My parents just asked me what I want for christmas , so naturally I said climbing gear. They asked what specifically. So I have 5 locking 'biners (how many more should I have, 3 are on belay devises) 8 assorted non locking (how many more should I have, this does not include biners used in racking) Set of Camalots: 5-.75 and a .4 (should I get a full set, what should I get doubles on?) ~5 24" sewn runners, and assorted cordelette, like a 40' length of 8mm cordellete (Should I get more, thinking about maybe a longer sewn runner) Full set of BD stoppers (not the REALLY baby ones, but you know) 1-7 hex's What else should I get? Thanks! -CS Two thoughts: 1. if you are expecting to get ALL that, you have a heck of a wealthy parents. Are they looking to adopt, by any chance? I won't ask for that much... 2. How the heck would we know what you need? What do you already have? What do you climb? what do you plan to climb? And if you don't know what you need, do you really need it?
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climberslacker
Nov 30, 2009, 1:43 AM
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Yup, thats what I already have. I wish I was that wealthy, and I am wondering what I need to complete my rack.
-CS
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sungam
Nov 30, 2009, 1:46 AM
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climberslacker wrote: Yup, thats what I already have. I wish I was that wealthy, and I am wondering what I need to complete my rack. -CS
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shockabuku
Nov 30, 2009, 2:02 AM
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I would get more biners and sewn slings.
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TYclimbOK
Nov 30, 2009, 3:00 AM
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I didn't see any quickdraws on your list of gear. I would recommend getting a few of varied lengths. The alpine draws are pretty nice too.
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climberslacker
Nov 30, 2009, 5:01 AM
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On a long trad route I can configure some of the sewn slings and some loose biners. I also end up settion up a TR for the rest of the group so thats why the loose biners. And I forgot to mention, I have like a dozen quickdraws.
Any advise on quantity of biners (i.e. how many locking how many non locking &c.)?
-CS
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currupt4130
Nov 30, 2009, 5:13 AM
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subantz wrote: climberslacker wrote: What else should I get? Thanks!-CS A life. Oh and a full set of cams and C4's, C3's Stoppers and C4;s a 1,2,3,.3 C3's 00,0,1,2 Stoppers 4-13 maybe double the .75,1,2, C4 cams and the stoppers, Also get a pink and red tricam. You are also going to need a life to go with all that!
Skip the .3. It's fucking worthless. Get a set of tricams, pink to blue. Get some DMM offset nuts and maybe some peenuts. Buy TCU's not C3's. Double up on at least #1 and #2 C4's. Get a .5! .5 C4 is a pretty clutch piece.
If anything I'd ask for the offset nuts, some more slings, a .5 C4, peenuts TCU's and tricams. In that order
(This post was edited by currupt4130 on Nov 30, 2009, 5:17 AM)
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irregularpanda
Nov 30, 2009, 5:13 AM
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sungam wrote: You'll want to end up with 10 or 12 slingdraws/extendo's if you're looking to get into longer trad routes or alpine climbing. Do you have a rope?
You guys have this all wrong. You don't need rope as long as you have dark underwear and toilet paper. Don't want to bring TP, try depends instead. Besides, ropes and gear is for "protected" climbing, and we all know that's for wussies who don't have women or money.
You don't want gear for x-mas. I can tell that a boy of your age (I can feel your age through the inter-tubes) that you really just want a tattoo and some live in strippers. Yep, creepy uncle panda is right. Remember, there is no sex in the champagne room.
You might be saying to yourself "but I really just wanna climb all the time, I don't need tattoos or beautiful, half naked women surrounding me at every awkward pubescent moment" Well son, that's because you're wrong.
In fact, the only reason that real climbers climb in the first place is women and money. Once you have tasha and lexus following you around for a week, the money will follow. Women and money are all that matter kid. Oh, and maybe beards too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmFnarFSj_U
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sungam
Nov 30, 2009, 10:36 AM
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climberslacker wrote: On a long trad route I can configure some of the sewn slings and some loose biners. I also end up settion up a TR for the rest of the group so thats why the loose biners. And I forgot to mention, I have like a dozen quickdraws. Any advise on quantity of biners (i.e. how many locking how many non locking &c.)? -CS
I see you found coldclimbs photo of how to make slingdraws - I personally find that is a key method, but I hate having stuff around my shoulders.
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lostlazy
Nov 30, 2009, 2:18 PM
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Climbing Lessons.
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subantz
Nov 30, 2009, 3:41 PM
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You win. The answer was right there the whole time and I just couldent see it.
Lessons OP needs lessons and this is the winning post. 5 stars for you.
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lostlazy
Nov 30, 2009, 4:00 PM
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climberslacker wrote: 5 locking 'biners (how many more should I have, 3 are on belay devises)
That statement made it obvious to me...
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johnwesely
Nov 30, 2009, 4:04 PM
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subantz wrote: climberslacker wrote: What else should I get? Thanks!-CS A life. Oh and a full set of cams and C4's, C3's Stoppers and C4;s a 1,2,3,.3 C3's 00,0,1,2 Stoppers 4-13 maybe double the .75,1,2, C4 cams and the stoppers, Also get a pink and red tricam. You are also going to need a life to go with all that!
Will his rack be as shiny as yours?
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petsfed
Nov 30, 2009, 5:13 PM
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currupt4130 wrote: subantz wrote: climberslacker wrote: What else should I get? Thanks!-CS A life. Oh and a full set of cams and C4's, C3's Stoppers and C4;s a 1,2,3,.3 C3's 00,0,1,2 Stoppers 4-13 maybe double the .75,1,2, C4 cams and the stoppers, Also get a pink and red tricam. You are also going to need a life to go with all that! Skip the .3. It's fucking worthless. Get a set of tricams, pink to blue. Get some DMM offset nuts and maybe some peenuts. Buy TCU's not C3's. Double up on at least #1 and #2 C4's. Get a .5! .5 C4 is a pretty clutch piece. If anything I'd ask for the offset nuts, some more slings, a .5 C4, peenuts TCU's and tricams. In that order
And if he climbs in rock where tricams are too fussy for the quality of placement.
Last time I checked, tricams weren't that useful in California.
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climberslacker
Nov 30, 2009, 5:52 PM
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Tri-cams arent all that usefull here. And I know how to climb, im just looking for suggestions on how to flesh out my rack as I mostly climb with other people, and use parts of their rack. Regarding the 3 belay devices, when you have a little brother who thinks that everything is his, then you have a reason to have one extra laying around. And as I said, we often have a TR and a lead going on at the same time, so we do use all 3 belay devises. So any more comments on what I need to flesh out my rack?
Thanks guys!
-CS
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subantz
Nov 30, 2009, 5:57 PM
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Well yes John it will be new. My little rack is so sad. Actually from all the SEARCH'S I have done this seems to be the starter and basic begginer rack.
SO NEW KID GO DO A FUCKIN SEACRCH>>>>>
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climberslacker wrote: Yup, thats what I already have. I wish I was that wealthy, and I am wondering what I need to complete my rack. -CS
my bad- I read is as "so far I have (on the list of things to ask for)"
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Nov 30, 2009, 6:07 PM
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subantz wrote: Well yes John it will be new. My little rack is so sad. Actually from all the SEARCH'S I have done this seems to be the starter and basic begginer rack. SO NEW KID GO DO A FUCKIN SEACRCH>>>>>
Don't get so upset just because I think you rack is cute. You might do something crazy. You might even sell your new rack.
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Nov 30, 2009, 6:29 PM
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climberslacker wrote: Hey guys! My parents just asked me what I want for christmas , so naturally I said climbing gear. They asked what specifically. So I have 5 locking 'biners (how many more should I have, 3 are on belay devises) 8 assorted non locking (how many more should I have, this does not include biners used in racking) Set of Camalots: 5-.75 and a .4 (should I get a full set, what should I get doubles on?) 5 24" sewn runners, and assorted cordelette, like a 40' length of 8mm cordellete (Should I get more, thinking about maybe a longer sewn runner) Full set of BD stoppers (not the REALLY baby ones, but you know) 1-7 hex's What else should I get? Thanks! -CS
Sounds like you got the BD Trad Climber Starter Rack, Stoppers, Hexes, and C4's. Which I always considered a very good start.
Gear, more nuts would be my first choice. People suggest a different brand to complement stoppers, which is not a bad idea. But I've done fine with all BD Stoppers. Which are easiest to find. Go for seconds in 5-11 sizes, which should be easy for your folks to get. Also, the small locking biners are good for setting up anchors, BD Quicksilvers are a good choice and low priced. At least several more.
Cams, as I read it you have #5 through #.75 BD C4's. I would supplement with Metolious TCU's, Red would be my first choice, then Orange then Yellow. These may be a little more $$ than your folks are willing to shell out, I have no idea.
Runners for leading, you mentioned you had draws, do they have biners? If so, you can tie your own 10" - 12" long, tied from 36-40 pieces of webbing, and move the biners back and forth. Otherwise you'll need more free biners. 5 24" sewn runners is about what I have, but more than I use.
Also, for setting up TR's. Piles of hand tied 1" webbing are great. But really you would know best for where you climb, what lengths you need.
Hopefully some ideas that don't break the bank of Mom and Dad.
Climb Safe, Don
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