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8flood8
Jul 26, 2005, 3:35 AM
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Here you go. i wonder who is going to chime in on this one....
[shamelessly lifted from a myspace.com bulletin my friend posted]
In the past weeks, Republicans and Democrats have called on President Bush to nominate a moderate for the Supreme Court—someone who would honor the legacy of independent Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. But last night, President Bush nominated Judge John Roberts, a far-right lawyer and corporate lobbyist, to fill her post on the Supreme Court.
We've got to stop Roberts. He opposed clean air rules and worked to help coal companies strip-mine mountaintops. He worked with Ken Starr (yes, that Ken Starr), and tried to keep Congress from defending the Voting Rights Act. He wrote that Roe v. Wade should be "overruled," and as a lawyer argued (and won) the case that stopped some doctors from even discussing abortion.
Join our urgent petition to let our senators know we expect them to oppose John Roberts right now at:
This is one of the most important domestic fights of President Bush's career. We can win—Americans overwhelmingly want a moderate judge. But to win, we need to get the word out early that Roberts is out of the mainstream.
After you've signed, please send this message on to your friends and colleagues. We need to fight back against the misinformation that the Bush administration is putting out.
John Roberts has little experience as a judge—he was only appointed in 2003. But he's got a lot of experience as a corporate lobbyist and lawyer, consistently favoring wealthy corporations over regular Americans.
Here's a list of some of the things that make Roberts the wrong pick for the Supreme Court:
* Wrong on environmental protection: Roberts appears to want to limit the scope of the Endangered Species Act, and in papers he wrote while in law school he supported far-right legal theories about "takings" which would make it almost impossible for the government to enforce most environmental legislation.
* Wrong on civil rights: Roberts worked to keep Congress from defending parts of the Voting Rights Act.
* Wrong on human rights: As a appeals court judge, Roberts ruled that the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to some prisoners of war.
* Wrong on our right to religious freedom: Roberts argued that schools should be able to impose religious speech on attendees.
* Wrong on women's rights: Roberts wrote that "Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overruled." He also weighed in on behalf of Operation Rescue, a violent anti-abortion group, in a federal case.
President Bush could have chosen many fair-minded and independent jurists to replace Sandra Day O'Connor. Instead, he chose a corporate partisan loved by Bush's right-wing base but out of step with the rest of the country.
Tell your senators they need to stop John Roberts now, at:
http://political.moveon.org/roberts/?id=5817-4248960-fPt6pd40vrpI4XLXbzG9kQ&t=4
We'll be in touch soon about next steps. For now, please help us gather as many voices as possible to keep the Supreme Court fair. And thanks for everything you're doing.
Sincerely,
–Ben, Tanya, Justin, Jennifer and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Wednesday, July 20th, 2005
PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
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8flood8
Jul 26, 2005, 4:17 AM
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one bump before i go home ....
fucking bush.
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8flood8
Jul 26, 2005, 4:22 AM
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one bump before i go home ....
fucking bush.
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curt
Jul 26, 2005, 4:26 AM
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In reply to: Here you go. i wonder who is going to chime in on this one.... [shamelessly lifted from a myspace.com bulletin my friend posted]
I'll chime in; your friend is an idiot.
Curt
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8flood8
Jul 26, 2005, 4:27 AM
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fair enough :P
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dondiego
Jul 26, 2005, 4:36 AM
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OK, I'm chiming in too. Curt is right. Your friend is an idiot. I guess the word moderate, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. So far, I haven't seen a big fight coming from the left about his nomination. Seems like everyone believes this will be Bush's easy one. Wait until the Chief Justice walks away, then it's game on.
-DD-
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Jul 26, 2005, 12:34 PM
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lamest post EVAR! :(
especially the whole petition signing thing haha
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Jul 26, 2005, 2:41 PM
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Can the left really expect a better nominee out of Bush? What do they expect? Bush is pro-business, so it only makes sense that he's going to nominate someone with pro-business credentials. He could have done much worse.
What's more interesting here is that Bush chose to nominate a man rather than a woman to replace O'Connor. I expect that when Rehnquist retires, Bush will nominate a woman to the Court - one who's rabidly conservative, more in the vein of conservatism that the left was expecting from Bush this time around. Then the GOP will exploit the fact she's a woman to attack anyone who opposes her nomination, despite the fact that the criticism will stem not from her sex but from her own record.
Ok, that's enough wild speculation for now.
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jpearl
Jul 26, 2005, 4:38 PM
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Hey wait, 8flood8, are you directing us to "moveon.org", the same people who thought that Hitler was a great persuasive element in trying to discredit Bush during the elections. Gee, let me think about sighning your petition, after all, we don't want any "extremist" influincing us, eh?
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8flood8
Jul 26, 2005, 8:01 PM
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HEHE
you could examine the Bush families connection to the nazis during WWII
think prescott
think steel.
anyway -- i'm not expecting more out of bush. i'm still pissed off tho.
so.... get mad!! express yourself!!
edit*** i didn't direct anyone... if you clicked the link...
i just made it easy by hotlinking the url.
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In reply to: anyway -- i'm not expecting more out of bush. i'm still pissed off tho. so.... get mad!! express yourself!!
Or you could just get over it. :roll:
Most of the Democrats are probably going easy Roberts because he is fairly moderate and they want to save their outrage for the hardliner Bush will undoubted trot out to replace Renquist.
Most are familiar with The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
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caughtinside
Jul 26, 2005, 8:24 PM
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moveon.org...
HAHAHAHAHAHA
You can't get much more left than those folks.
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8flood8
Jul 26, 2005, 8:30 PM
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In reply to: Or you could just get over it. :roll:
how american i love how everyone jumped on an opinion teehee :twisted:
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caughtinside
Jul 26, 2005, 9:09 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Or you could just get over it. :roll: how american i love how everyone jumped on an opinion teehee :twisted:
You are surprised when people take issue with an opinion? About politics? Where the fuck are you from?
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8flood8
Jul 26, 2005, 9:20 PM
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the original post doesn't even contain my opinion.
i posted it up for anyone who was interested. So far... no one that replied was...
no biggie. just seems people are ripping me so that is what my comment is directed at.
from earth, but mostly i say jupiter.
edit** tho in retrospect.. maybe i'm just reading all the responses at little to defensively. in any case...
Party on wayne...
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curt
Jul 27, 2005, 6:33 AM
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Is that really what the third world thinks?
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Jul 27, 2005, 12:28 PM
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In reply to: Is that really what the third world thinks? Curt
check your facts, curt...
slovenia is not in the third world. i thought youre smarter thatn an average us citizen... but i guess i was wrong.
and it was posted as a joke. though its not FAR from the truth.
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In reply to: check your facts, curt... slovenia is not in the third world. i thought youre smarter thatn an average us citizen... but i guess i was wrong. and it was posted as a joke. though its not FAR from the truth.
This is rich... post inflamtory stuff and then cry foul when there's a negative reply. And then try passing it off as a joke while at the same time saying it's somewhat truthful.
Sack up, buddy boy.
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Jul 27, 2005, 1:56 PM
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In reply to: Is that really what the third world thinks? Curt
That's what two-thirds of the world thinks.
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curt
Jul 27, 2005, 6:09 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Is that really what the third world thinks? Curt check your facts, curt... slovenia is not in the third world. i thought youre smarter thatn an average us citizen... but i guess i was wrong. and it was posted as a joke. though its not FAR from the truth.
Posting that picture clearly demonstrates that your understanding of world history and events is seriously lacking. Further, I may or may not be "smarter than an average us citizen" but at least you have clearly proven that I'm smarter than you. I didn't think you were a total asshole either....but I guess I was wrong.
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8flood8
Jul 27, 2005, 6:12 PM
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In reply to: oh can of worms how i love thee... let me count the ways
i really don't think bush is a nazi... per se...
i do think he is ushering in the era of the 4th reich tho.
but maybe that is a misnomer...
i do think that there are a lot of serious changes heading for our world and i am not taking the things on the table here in america so flippantly. Can anyone tell me why cafta and the ftaa are good things? i mean... americans don't really agree with socialism or world government do they? I mean... rc.commers don't ... do they.... ??
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Jul 27, 2005, 6:27 PM
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Psst, Curt, Other-Curt-to-Curt transmission....
Why are we in Iraq?
WHERE"S The FECKING OIL????
Now if our great country had REALLY wanted to export democracy, and stop genocide and all that sort of thing, wouldn't we have a far, far,different track record in the third world for the last 100 years? (actually it goes farther, if yo uwnat to include the Spanish americal war and Hawaii, but who's counting?)
Look at the history. For pete's sake, Ho Chi MInh was OUR FECKING ALLY in WW2, he came to us first for help against the french.
Our government has supported ANY THUG who was a) Avowed anti-commie, or b) the enemy of our enemy of the moment, as long as we had some sort of interest in the geographical area.
In other words, the huttus and tutsis didn't matter cause they are not in our hemisphere (the Monroe Doctrine lives!), nobody was a commie, and they had no oil in the ground.
But as for the Bush-Hitler comparison, it just doesn't work. If Bush edges into Iran and eventually Saudi Arabia, and if Karl Rove masterrminds a plan to send arabs to 'work camps', with 'showers', and suddenly we wind up short a few million muslims, maybe THEN it works.
Besides, Bush is nowhere near the charismatic speaker and crowd manipulator that Old Adolph was.
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In reply to: i really don't think bush is a nazi... per se... i do think he is ushering in the era of the 4th reich tho. but maybe that is a misnomer... i do think that there are a lot of serious changes heading for our world and i am not taking the things on the table here in america so flippantly.
You really should understand the meaning of words and phrases before using them.
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Jul 27, 2005, 6:55 PM
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In reply to: ....But as for the Bush-Hitler comparison, it just doesn't work....
That was all I meant to say. I'm not a huge GWB fan and I believe going into Iraq demonstrated a terrible lack of judgement on GWB's part. Please don't think I am a GWB supporter for merely pointing out the utter stupidity of the Hitler analogy.
Curt
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