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boka
Aug 10, 2005, 6:38 AM
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I started climbing a few months ago and just purchased my very own rope, but I don't know the best way to carry it... Some of my climbing buddies use rope bags and a small pack for their gear, while others use just one pack. I plan to purchase either a rope bag to use in addition to my smallish daypack, or a new pack that will carry everything. I don't plan to climb trad anytime soon, so everything for me is: sport gear, a rope, water, food, layer or two, and a camera.
I've been searching this site trying to determine the ideal way to transport my gear to the crag and these are my choices so far:
Osprey Vertigo 40 - nice because it has the rope tarp and enough room for all my gear.
Kelty Origami - interesting design, built in tarp, and pretty cheap.
Marmot Eiger 36 - nice pack that could be used for other purposes.
Metolius Rope Ranger - great rope bag and cheapest, but would require carrying another daypack with gear.
My questions for you guys are: What do you guys use/recommend for a day at the crag? Do you prefer one pack for everything, a pack with rope bag inside it, or a pack and separate ropebag? What are you opinions on the different packs I've listed?
Thanks for the advice!
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andrewbanandrew
Aug 10, 2005, 6:55 AM
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The best system IMHO is either a pack + tarp or pack + ropebag. Get a nice, durable nylon tarp that has loops to tie the ends to if you can.
The nice thing about a rope bag is that if you are in an area where there's say, an hour hike in, but once you get there, different crags are 5 min away from each other, the rope bag makes it very easy to move from crag to crag.
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ryanb
Aug 10, 2005, 6:57 AM
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I like to buterfly coil the rope leaving two long tails that can be tied like back pack straps over my shoulders. Even when I bring my rope bag (an old metolius that I found) I generally just use it as a tarp and coil the rope if I am going to move it any distance.
This works fine with a small pack, just put the pack on first.
It takes some practice to avoid tangeling the rope.
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4togo
Aug 10, 2005, 7:12 AM
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I like a separate ropebag -- as long as I can strap it to my backpack to make one bundle.
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mrsuicide
Aug 10, 2005, 8:04 AM
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i use the abc dirtbagger tarp and it works for what i like. i usually stuff it in my pack on the approach, but am also able to haul it around to different spots easily because it clips shut.
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reunionron
Aug 10, 2005, 8:17 AM
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I used a backpack for a long time. i finally invested in a rope bag and love it. It's a Beal.
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flipnfall
Aug 10, 2005, 11:32 AM
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I love my rope bag. First, the rope is flaked and ready to belay at an instant. Because of the fold-out tarp, the rope has less exposure to dirt as it rests on the tarp. When I'm ready to go, I can quickly pile up the rope, stuff it and go. All around, it's very fast.
I had a friend with a rope pack, and the rope was easier to walk around with, but it wasn't easier to work with than the bag.
My two cents,
GT
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hiram
Aug 10, 2005, 12:29 PM
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top roping: no need for a rope bag, just coil it up when you are done.
sport climbing: rope bag and tarp are great when moving between a lot of routs.
trad: just the tarp will work.
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waltereo
Aug 10, 2005, 12:31 PM
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joeho
Aug 10, 2005, 1:47 PM
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I would probably get a rope bag + a pack. I have a large pack for all my stuff and a black diamond ropebag.
Try to find a bag that acts like a tarp. Helps your rope when you're belaying in something that can be classified as a beach =P
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azrockclimber
Aug 10, 2005, 2:28 PM
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pack dude...pack. unless you climb all crag 1 pitch stuff where part of your rope will be on the ground all day
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robo555
Aug 10, 2005, 2:31 PM
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I went for the cheap option and got a pack and a tarp.
A lot of people like a rope bag 'cos it has a tarp, why not just get a trap, much easier to clean when necessary, and easy to replace.
Advantage of putting rope in bag is you only need to carry the pack, instead of pack + rope bag.
If you're moving round routes in sport climb, just wrap the rope in the tarp and carry it with you.
Some people like rope bag 'cos they can just open it and the rope will be flaked and ready. I find the ropes can still have tangles like that, so I still flake it before a climb to ensure it'll be more trouble free while belaying.
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drnick
Aug 10, 2005, 2:31 PM
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Neither....go with a Small Haul Bag.....
Useful as a rope bucket when not being used to haul you crap to the crags...
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overlord
Aug 10, 2005, 4:52 PM
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i have a tarp and a 40l pack. the rope with the tarp goes into the pack with shoes, harness and other stuff. the rest of the gear is carried by my buddy.
or if i have to carry the whole gear, i just use slings or a bigger pack.
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mrtristan
Aug 10, 2005, 6:40 PM
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Rope bag with tarp is the way to go. I have experience with the two Metolius ones and I love them.
-Tristan
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lewisiarediviva
Aug 10, 2005, 9:10 PM
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In reply to: I love my rope bag. First, the rope is flaked and ready to belay at an instant. Because of the fold-out tarp, the rope has less exposure to dirt as it rests on the tarp. When I'm ready to go, I can quickly pile up the rope, stuff it and go. All around, it's very fast. GT
ditto.
This way you can stuff it in your backpack along with your water, snack, camera, sunblock, dog treats, guide book, raincoat, and water ever else you may think you want.
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veganboyjosh
Aug 10, 2005, 9:13 PM
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my partnet used to use an old snowboarding pack for cragging. he would fill up the pack with gear, food, etc, and the rope would strap on the outside where the snowboard would normally go.
this seems to make the most sense to me, if you're not gonna get a tarp or rope bag/tarp combo. this way you have more room for carrying stuff, and the rope doesn'tt ake up all that room inside the pack.
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