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lambone
Sep 23, 2005, 6:50 AM
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I have yet to see a new ice tool on the market this season. None from BD, Charlet, Grivel...
What's up? I sold my Vipers this summer in hopes of getting something new...now what another pair of Vipers? Quarks?
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verticon
Sep 23, 2005, 7:59 AM
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Well... there ARE some new tools:
Petzl came out with the Nomic (with a quite radical look), DMM are getting again on the marking with the new Anarchist which looks like the Quark Ergo but with a very interesting shaft, BD are filling a hole in their range of products with Venom (120% versatile, they claim).
Camp also have modified the Awax to be more fit for "sans-dragonnes".
As most of the firms are from Europe, it might take a while till the new toys will come out on the US market, but I think it worth waiting.
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hema
Sep 23, 2005, 9:26 AM
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Grivel XMonster, designed for ice rather than drytooling, and mucho cheap...
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maxdacat
Sep 23, 2005, 10:57 AM
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i like!
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kimgraves
Sep 23, 2005, 12:35 PM
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sorry, dup
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euroford
Sep 23, 2005, 1:49 PM
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oh okay, thanks i had seen that, was just thinking it was something else.
i'll admit, i kinda want one :D
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renohandjams
Sep 23, 2005, 4:24 PM
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Saw this at the OR show. I like the biner clip built into it. I'm getting a pair for me.
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lambone
Sep 23, 2005, 8:24 PM
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wow that Cryo tool from e-climb looks sweet!
You could pretend you were climbing leashless and impress the chicks, all the while being clipped in!
I still have a hard time commiting to anything but a BD or Charlet tool though.
Is this Petzls first run of ice tools? I thought they owned Charlet...
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jhattan
Sep 26, 2005, 1:26 PM
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Kim,
Later in the season, BD will release the Venom Hammer which will feature a more technical pick. That pick will fit the Venom Adze as well.
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crossfit2
Sep 26, 2005, 2:38 PM
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Are they going to continue to keep the petzl and charlet brands seperate or will there be a combination. It seems as if Petzl are marketing a seperate line of tools but what is the rationale behind that? Surely they use the same r & d group. Im in the market for new tools and will probably stay with a Black Diamond or Charlet product although the "e" tools look appetizing. Has Stubai come out with anything in a while? I found some old Stubai tools of mine (Purply/Pink) and where shocked at how much they weighed. I think at one point I honestly thought they where light.I went from these to Black Prophets which Ive had for 10+ years. Time for an upgrade?
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e_wire
Sep 26, 2005, 3:13 PM
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In reply to: Are they going to continue to keep the petzl and charlet brands seperate or will there be a combination. It seems as if Petzl are marketing a seperate line of tools but what is the rationale behind that? Surely they use the same r & d group.
Charlet Moser has been bought by Petzl many years ago and it's now fully integrated within Petzl. So, Petzl or Charlet, it's all the same. They just keep the Charlet name for marketing.
e_wire
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jimdavis
Sep 29, 2005, 12:58 AM
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Looks like it'll shift a lot when matching.
Cheers,
Jim
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drake
Sep 29, 2005, 1:10 AM
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I talked to a CM Petzl rep. The Nomic is suppose to be the new and improved Ergo. The Ergo will continue to be sold until the Nomic is established in the market and then it will be fazed out and the Nomic will replace it.
I've been wanting to try leashless waterfall ice so i think I'm gonna give these a shot.
Sign up soon if you want a set. Petzl is only importing 100 pairs into the US this season.
Jedi
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angry
Sep 29, 2005, 1:14 AM
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In reply to: I talked to a CM Petzl rep. The Nomic is suppose to be the new and improved Ergo. The Ergo will continue to be sold until the Nomic is established in the market and then it will be fazed out and the Nomic will replace it. I've been wanting to try leashless waterfall ice so i think I'm gonna give these a shot. Sign up soon if you want a set. Petzl is only importing 100 pairs into the US this season. Jedi
It's like that time that I nearly slept with my sister
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drake
Sep 29, 2005, 2:27 AM
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Eeewww! You almost slept with your sister? Hope you guys are still friends :oops:
What's that have to do with ice tools?
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reno
Sep 29, 2005, 3:57 AM
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In reply to: What's that have to do with ice tools?
Nothing. He's spewing the same stupid line in several threads... ignore him is my advice.
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