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refugee
Dec 5, 2005, 7:01 PM
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Complain and whine about not having your pills
Denounce the younger generation for not being passionate enough (the same people you made vacant, hollow beings by force-feeding us ritalin)
Continue to believe the myth that you never have to "grow up," that you are still hip and cool and with it
Believe that JFK was a good person
Hold back progress by not giving young people opportunities to express their idealistic drive and motivation, a blatant hypocrisy since you fought for such opportunities when you were young, but now that you're old, you act exactly like the people you once rebelled against because young people continue to support your self-indulgent lifestyles with a) social security b) the minimum wage jobs you give ivy-league educated people who have no chance of ever paying off their over-priced education (sorry, meaningless title promotions doesn't help)
See Bono on the ipod commercials and feel young
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mtnjohn
Dec 5, 2005, 7:20 PM
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A bit young to be so bitter aren't you?
Are you off your ritalin again?
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oldrnotboldr
Dec 5, 2005, 7:45 PM
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In reply to: We used to have the annual spring "knicker only" alpine trip, that made for some great B&W photo's
How about posting a couple of photos?
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oldsalt
Dec 6, 2005, 12:42 AM
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In reply to: Complain and whine about not having your pills Denounce the younger generation for not being passionate enough (the same people you made vacant, hollow beings by force-feeding us ritalin) Continue to believe the myth that you never have to "grow up," that you are still hip and cool and with it Believe that JFK was a good person Hold back progress by not giving young people opportunities to express their idealistic drive and motivation, a blatant hypocrisy since you fought for such opportunities when you were young, but now that you're old, you act exactly like the people you once rebelled against because young people continue to support your self-indulgent lifestyles with a) social security b) the minimum wage jobs you give ivy-league educated people who have no chance of ever paying off their over-priced education (sorry, meaningless title promotions doesn't help) See Bono on the ipod commercials and feel young
Whoa! I'm older, but not combative. I'm not taking exception with what you say, just surprised that you are describing many of my parents' generation. Please don't lump us all in the same boat, anymore than saying that all of "you" are just alike.
I despise the widespread use of ritalin, and I agree with your unwritten message that it is often used for the parents' benefit rather than the childs. Many people my age (55) were thrown out of their homes by their Greatest Generation parents. I was. I have spent much of my professional life encouraging the next generation to act and think freely and creatively.
I'm sorry that you haven't had better role models to represent us old farts.
Now, where the hell are those Omega fish oil capsules?
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yosemite
Dec 6, 2005, 1:20 AM
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Refugee,
What has anyone said that threatens/angers you?
Gene
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healyje
Dec 6, 2005, 2:25 AM
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Good one grey,
...look at rocks without chalk and fixed pro and actually get on them and think it's the best deal on Earth even if you epic hard.
...only use guidebooks in stores and then only for directions to the crag.
...think it's no sweat to climb without chalk.
...can lead routes with no cams.
...can stacked hexes at least two different ways.
...can climb and take dives all day on hard multipitch routes with no harness, belay device, or locking biners.
...think it's fun to climb without seven other "comfort" partners.
...lead trad within one grade of your TR ability.
...rope solo trad routes within one grade or at your trad ability.
...have placed two Crack 'N Ups in a row (or know what one is...)
...have duct taped your rope several times before retiring it to setting up TRs.
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gunkiemike
Dec 6, 2005, 3:10 AM
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This thread reminds me of how much of my original stuff I still have:
Stitcht plate, Goldline (1973), my Frostline 60-40 parka (sewed it myself in 1974, couldn't afford the ventile jobbie. I LIVED for Frostline gear in college), Gerry down bag (possibly late 60's), Holubar/Stubai ice axe (OK I bought this used, but it replaced my wooden Stubai that I got in "72), Woolrich kickers (I still fit in them too!), I'm still wearing the Peter Storm oiled wool sweater but have retired the Woolrich Malone pants (amazing cold weather pants, but weigh about 8 lbs). The 1 inch tubular that was my first set of runners became etriers that I still have. I made a couple of my own nuts, one of which I still have. EB's were my THIRD pair of climbing shoes. I upgraded from Fabiano Black Beauties. Still using my Optimus 8R (1972). Took a factor 0.98 fall in my tied harness (no problem).
OK, that's enough. I have to lie down and take a nap now...
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thegreytradster
Dec 6, 2005, 3:17 AM
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In reply to: Refugee, What has anyone said that threatens/angers you? Gene
He's just jealous that our generation snagged all the good lines before he was born
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12volt_man
Dec 6, 2005, 6:36 AM
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Right on! Oops, guess that shows my age as well. 8^)
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eastvillage
Dec 6, 2005, 3:05 PM
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Did a hanging bivy, for practice, under Thin Slabs Direct at the Gunks in 1971. That includes the haul bag filled with food, beer etc.
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cowpoke
Dec 7, 2005, 10:10 PM
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In reply to: Hold back progress by not giving young people opportunities to express their idealistic drive and motivation
that's funny!!! I'm no boomer, but I've yet to meet these young people...
In reply to: the minimum wage jobs you give ivy-league educated people who have no chance of ever paying off their over-priced education
shoot, you strayed from adolescent angst to victim here...oh no, wait, you were always the victim. Why don't you use some of that idealistic drive/motivation and go change the world, kiddo?
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ropeboy
Dec 8, 2005, 6:22 AM
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Had a Gerry frame pack, soft iron pitons, and steel oval carabiners.
Went down goldline in a deep cave pit and later spun in nauseous circles prussiking up while it untwisted. Being careful not to burn the rope with your carbide head lamp.
Remember when you could pick up firewood around Camp 4.
Repeat from earlier post: Climbed recently with Chouinard carabiners older than your climbing partner, in a wool sweater older than your climbing partner.
Have ever put in a piton half way up a lieback.
Never owned chaulk.
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franko
Dec 8, 2005, 7:18 AM
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In reply to: remember MSR ice axes
Remember? Hell, I still use them: a long handled Eagle for glacier travel and a short T-bird for technical ice. In my other hand is a Forrest Mollnar.
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ants
Dec 10, 2005, 5:16 PM
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Remember when Markwell sold gear out of the back of a VW bus,and when 10 people at Seneca for the weekend was "busy."
1 inch tied swami belts,then two inch...
Steel crabs and pins.
Know how to tie a bowline on a bight...and have actually used it!
Still have a pair of Beau Brummels around somewhere.
Can still lead 5.8 with just a rack of stoppers.
Still have nerve damage from spending too much time in a hammock...
Wondering if your inability to have children is connected to all those long falls in a Whillans harness!
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healyje
Dec 11, 2005, 12:21 AM
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In case you missed'em in the belaying thread...
(This post was edited by healyje on Feb 25, 2010, 6:27 AM)
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danabart
Dec 12, 2005, 2:32 PM
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If you ever used Dolt Trunuts or Forrest Foxheads.
When chalk was controversial
And I can remeber my partner pointing out one the local hardmen at Quincy Quarries and saying, "That's Ajax Greene; he leads 5.9
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healyje
Dec 12, 2005, 4:17 PM
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...can remember when the blue and purple pills were barrels and microdot, not Viagra and Nexium and essentially cured the same problems...
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tfk
Dec 14, 2005, 11:56 PM
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... insulite, not thermarest.
... grungy cutoffs, not day-glo spandex.
... glissading freaked out the old farts.
... svea, not MSR, stoves.
... ever got 3rd degree burns on your lips from the dumbest invention ever - the Sierra cup.
... 1/4 of your rack was pro for cracks > 3".
... ever thought using Friends was cheating.
... belay devices were ALL just added weight.
... girls NEVER lead the crux pitch.
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12volt_man
Dec 17, 2005, 1:57 AM
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:mrgreen:
Ah, Sveas! A controled Molotov cocktail.
Clean climbing was high ethic.
Ethics were important.
The only "gym" climbers you knew spelled their name with a J.
Whymper was a climber and not what your second did.
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vegastradguy
Dec 17, 2005, 2:07 AM
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Now, what's really amazing for me is that every time i climb with Larry DeAngelo, I get to live about 3/4 of this thread! :D
(of course, I've also reaped the benefits- i dont use chalk, i can lead without cams, i've taken a whip or two on lead with my belayer using only his hip and a smile, and i enjoy using doltnuts, titons, and knotted slings for pro!)
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oldtradman
Dec 17, 2005, 2:41 AM
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Who has some Tube Chocks?
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tnmountainman
Dec 17, 2005, 2:48 AM
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respectful son of a boomers says:
This is possibly the greatest thread I have ever read :lol:
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fishbelly
Dec 17, 2005, 3:16 AM
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First climber I read about in a publication.
Sir Edmund in the Sears & Robuck catalog.
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nickb
Dec 17, 2005, 4:16 AM
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You were thrilled by the comfort of a Forrest single point hamock over the Chouinard Pea Pod.
1/4 inchers were bomber.
Have hung on a drill bit with a #2 stopper as a hanger.
Could quote Firesign theater.
Everything is turning blue.
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12volt_man
Dec 17, 2005, 5:23 AM
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In reply to: Who has some Tube Chocks?
8^) Right here 8^)
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