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delarig
Apr 19, 2006, 6:11 PM
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I was thinking about his the other day and could'nt think of too many climbers that weigh 190+ that climb at this level....I was thinking maybe Fred Roughling or Fred Nicole maybe? Can anyone think of any REALLY good climbers that weigh over 190?
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krusher4
Apr 19, 2006, 6:19 PM
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I am not really sure a human body could crank that hard, if it were to weight 190+.
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sevrdhed
Apr 19, 2006, 6:20 PM
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Well, I don't know about Fred Nicole, but I do know that I just happened to read an article in climbing about fred rouhling, and they measured him at 5'9"... and based on pictures, I'm guessing that he's not 190+ :D
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climbsomething
Apr 19, 2006, 6:30 PM
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In reply to: Can anyone think of any REALLY good climbers that weigh over 190?
OK, I lied. John Dunne.
But that's about it, and he's quite the anamoly.
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styndall
Apr 19, 2006, 7:30 PM
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In reply to: I was thinking about his the other day and could'nt think of too many climbers that weigh 190+ that climb at this level....I was thinking maybe Fred Roughling or Fred Nicole maybe? Can anyone think of any REALLY good climbers that weigh over 190?
Fred Nicole, 190?
http://www.fdgroup.com/.../images/fredskip.jpg
I'm guessing not.
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jred
Apr 19, 2006, 8:12 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I was thinking about his the other day and could'nt think of too many climbers that weigh 190+ that climb at this level....I was thinking maybe Fred Roughling or Fred Nicole maybe? Can anyone think of any REALLY good climbers that weigh over 190? Fred Nicole, 190? http://www.fdgroup.com/.../images/fredskip.jpg I'm guessing not.
Well, Fred must be a monster because Kangaroos are like six feet tall and can be quite heavy. Judging by the photo Fred is about 400lbs.
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moonshine505
Apr 19, 2006, 8:18 PM
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Klem Loskot doesnt' exactly have the Dave Graham physique, but I doubt he's over 190...
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climbsomething
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In reply to: Klem Loskot doesnt' exactly have the Dave Graham physique, but I doubt he's over 190... |
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Apr 19, 2006, 8:24 PM
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I saw Fred in Squamish last summer. That guy is climbing harder then ever and he's about the same size as me, and I'm about 190. Of course where I have fat Fred's got rock solid muscle. The guy's built like a brick shithouse! His forearms alone have got to weigh about 50lbs a piece. Not only does he weigh at least 190lbs, I bet he smokes about 190lbs of cigarettes a day!
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Apr 19, 2006, 8:26 PM
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I think this is an interesting question. I'm less interested in the 190 number (I assume that's the OP's weight) than in the idea of weight becoming a limiting factor on harder climbs. In other words, at some point your grip strength and total body strength are unable to compensate for total mass.
Both Sharma and Jason Campbell seem to be pretty big guys. Not near 190, but probably in the 160-70 range. What about Chris Lindner? I can't think of any other really big climbers.
Oh wait, what was the name of that really strong Canadian climber that beat Sharma at the last couple of PCA comps - Nels? Yeah, he never climbed routes but he's a hulk.
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Apr 19, 2006, 8:44 PM
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I do not know about 5.14 climbers, but one of my friends weight between 90 to 100 Kg and could climb in .13b - c range a few years ago.
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Apr 19, 2006, 8:50 PM
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I read that both JD and Klem are over 200 lbs. Although, John would slim down quite a bit for his hardest routes.
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In reply to: Of course where I have fat Fred's got rock solid muscle.
Muscle weighs more than fat. If you are six foot and well built 190 isn't bad at all. Doesn't matter how much you weigh aslong as you have the strength to back it up.
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moonshine505
Apr 19, 2006, 10:33 PM
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Bullshit, it totally matters how much you weigh when it comes to hard climbing. In the very most basic sense, look at it like this, if you're trying a crimpy route/bloc and you weigh 190lbs vs 160lbs, your skin's going to limit the number of tries you get, it simply can't take the abuse. This was Klem's point when talking about attempting Action Direct, he just couldn't work it without absolutely shredding his skin and ended up giving up. Of course there's more to the argument, but this is a basic point.
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Apr 19, 2006, 10:43 PM
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In reply to: I saw Fred in Squamish last summer. That guy is climbing harder then ever and he's about the same size as me, and I'm about 190. Of course where I have fat Fred's got rock solid muscle. The guy's built like a brick s---! His forearms alone have got to weigh about 50lbs a piece. Not only does he weigh at least 190lbs, I bet he smokes about 190lbs of cigarettes a day!
I found an interview he did here.
In reply to: Weight? My God! It’s really personal. I am actually 76 (kilograms). Height? 180 (centimetres).
That's around 5'10" in normal human measurements, and just under 170 pounds.
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estwing
Apr 21, 2006, 2:12 AM
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Doesn't Dean Potter weigh about 180. I'm 6'-3", and he is a bit taller than I am, "he's even taller that you!" said my friend. He is thin, but muscular.
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brokesomeribs
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I'm 6'1" and was 185lbs at my climbing peak and I was leading hard 11 sport routes with a handful of sandbagged 12's at NRG. Bouldered V6 in the Gunks. I wasn't doing any real training, just was getting outside about 2-3 weekends per month and inside the gym 2 nights a week. This was when I was about 23 and I'm 25 now.
These days I've been ice climbing exclusively so I can't say for sure, but I would guess I am hovering in the easy 11's range (on sport) and could boulder V4's in the Gunks. I'm a big fat pussy so I probably wouldn't get on any trad lines harder than 5.8 in the Gunks and 5.9 most other places.
Too lazy to train and nursing a shoulder injury so I'm very happy with those numbers. I probably weigh right about 180 right now.
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brokesomeribs
Feb 22, 2010, 11:29 AM
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I'm pretty certain I read an interview with Dean Potter where he said he was 6'5" and 180lbs. Fred Rouhling is also a tall guy, probably 6'1" or 6'2" and ridiculously jacked. He easily weighs 180-185.
Klem Loskot, Nels Rosaassen, and Sharma are all definitely close to the 180 mark, but I don't know exact numbers.
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Feb 22, 2010, 11:49 AM
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brokesomeribs wrote: Fred Rouhling is also a tall guy, probably 6'1" or 6'2" and ridiculously jacked.
Why does this rumor keep floating around?
Direct quote from a good Climbing magazine article a few years ago...
In reply to: He is five feet, nine inches tall with a plus-one-and-a-half ape index. The myth begins to unravel.
http://www.climbing.com/...rouhling/index1.html
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brokesomeribs
Feb 22, 2010, 11:51 AM
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I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification. Dude looked huuuuuge in the few pictures I've seen of him.
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[quote "delarig"]I was thinking about his the other day and could'nt think of too many climbers that weigh 190+ that climb at this level....I was thinking maybe Fred Roughling or Fred Nicole maybe? Can anyone think of any REALLY good climbers that weigh over 190?[/quote]
Me definately. I'm 6'4 200lbs and can crank like the best of them, the other day in the gym I climbed the green route next to the green 5.14, so clearly because they are the some colour they are the same grade, therefore it is I! Expect to see my in such productions as: Go fatty! A lardass guide to climbing, and the next big up production regression where I am one of the data point in the correlation between weight and performance in elite climbers.
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clews
Feb 22, 2010, 4:12 PM
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I know a strong climber who is very close to red pointing his first of many 14's. I believe he's 20 or 21 and pushing 200
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JasonsDrivingForce
Feb 22, 2010, 4:18 PM
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Along the same lines. I wonder who the tallest person is that can climb 5.14 or higher? Are there any 6’6” guys that can pull that hard?
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JasonsDrivingForce wrote: Along the same lines. I wonder who the tallest person is that can climb 5.14 or higher? Are there any 6’6” guys that can pull that hard?
Don't know about 6'6", but Dean Potter is ~ 6'4", and I guess he qualifies as 'pulling hard'?
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