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hammockrg
Sep 21, 2001, 4:43 AM
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Suggested reading, Mountaineers Freedom of the Hills. Can explain better than I can and it is a great book. Plus you will have it for referance to other question you may want to know about. If you are serious about climbing you will want this book. Check it out at REI or Just about any book store will carry it. Im always picking mine up to read it.
Keep it doubled back
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graniteboy
Dec 3, 2001, 9:51 PM
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Actually, there are several rating systems for ice. There's the traditional WI/AI system, which rates things w/a single number
eg WI 5 or 6 is pretty damn stiff, WI 2 is pretty easy.
Then there's the M grading, for mixed climbing,in which you either climb something sick with marginal protection while scraping your crampons up thin verglas mixed w/rock, looking at very big death potential, then go pray your thankfulness to the Mtn Gods, OR (very common lately) you bolt the hell outta some overhang, and essentially sprot climb the thing while hanging from leashes, taking lotsa short safe falls, then spew a buncha shite abt how frikkin Coo-wel U are, and how It's gotta be "at least M9 or M12 or something"....
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beyond_gravity
Jan 14, 2002, 1:12 AM
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for mixed grades, heres what it should feel like...
m4-5.8
m5-5.9
m6-5.10
m7-5.11
m8-5.11+/5.12
m9-12+/5.13-
m10-too hard for me
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