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dandruff1138
Jun 12, 2006, 10:07 PM
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I know homemade quickdraws have been posted alot, but I was wondering, I daisy chained some of my 18# runners a few loops (3 or 4 loops) and noticed it is stiff and about 8" long with two loops at the end, is this putting too much strain on the runner or will this work as a quickdraw with two biners on each end?
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neuroshock
Jun 12, 2006, 10:35 PM
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if you're using runners anyway, why not just triple them and make extendable trad 'draws?
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chrisparedes
Jun 12, 2006, 11:08 PM
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I don't really understand what you have done here. Are you making quickdraws out of daisy chains? If so, keep in mind that daisy chains are meant for static weight ONLY. They will not hold a fall. I would stick with pre made draws, or waterknot some webbing to make a sling. If you have doubts as to whether or not your idea is safe, I would play it safe, stick to what you know will work.
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rhythm164
Jun 12, 2006, 11:37 PM
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Yea, don't do that.
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musicman1586
Jun 12, 2006, 11:54 PM
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Daisy Chains are body-weight only, don't do it, you'll die
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neuroshock
Jun 13, 2006, 12:04 AM
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sounded, to me, like he shorted his runner via this method and put 'biners on both ends to make his "quickdraw"
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dandruff1138
Jun 13, 2006, 5:47 PM
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neuro thats correct. Because my runner is "sewn" (therefor a loop) the ends of the chain are a loop for my biners.
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caughtinside
Jun 13, 2006, 5:57 PM
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If you fall on it in that configuration, the knots will tighten down hard, and might even friction burn. Don't do it.
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redpoint73
Jun 13, 2006, 5:57 PM
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In reply to: I don't really understand what you have done here. Are you making quickdraws out of daisy chains? If so, keep in mind that daisy chains are meant for static weight ONLY. They will not hold a fall.
He is not talking about the sewn daisy chains made for aid climbing (thats what I thought too, when I saw the subject!). He is talking about the daisy chain hitch/knot that is commonly used to quickly coil long pieces of webbing when not in use.
In any case, I don't see the point. Use a tripled trad draw or a dogbone. If you fall on a chained runner, the knot will likely be cinched down and hard to get out. No such problem with a trad draw. Girth hitch the biners if "biner flop" is your concern.
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slacklinejoe
Jun 13, 2006, 5:58 PM
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(Edit: - mis-read post)
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corpse
Jun 13, 2006, 6:54 PM
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If the sling is daisy chained though, couldn't it act a little like a screamer where the loops and friction of the sling will absorb some of the energy of the fall?
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rhythm164
Jun 13, 2006, 7:06 PM
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Not if you knot the end, plus a screamer absorbs shock due too its stitching ripping out and slowing the fall, it doesn't simply unravel.
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