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Nuggular
May 3, 2007, 7:07 PM
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Its either the Metolius Cheap Bastard Crash Pad or the Mad Rock Mad Pad.
Let me know what you think of both and which you think is better.
Thx much
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alpinismo_flujo
May 3, 2007, 10:46 PM
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Sorry don't have either, but just going on what I heard; the CB is the better of the two. hope that helps.
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phunkey
May 3, 2007, 11:44 PM
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I have used both in the past although I have been using the Cheap Bastard the majority of the time for about a year and just upgraded to the Fat Bastard. The Mad Rocks pad is a good pad, you cant beat the price. Its a little bigger and plusher if you like softer pads, but the build quality is not as good as the more expensive pads.
The Cheap Bastard is a better built pad in terms of stitching and fabric. I have really abused this pad in all sorts of environments from snow to desert. I have fallen on it, eaten on it, cooked on it, slept on it, loved on it, spilled cocktails on it, burnt it, and the mistreatment never shows. The foam is thick and firm, 15 foot falls you dont have to worry about hitting bottom or twisting an ankle on a too soft pad. The new version of the Cheap Bastard also has the carpeted landing top to keep your feet clean so you never have to worry about losing your piece of carpet or hand towel. For the price it is really a stellar deal.
Honestly though if you have the extra couple of bucks, I would go with the Fat Bastard. It is a little bit more expensive but well worth it in terms of longevity and overall protection. Hope this helps, cheers...
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alpinismo_flujo
May 3, 2007, 11:48 PM
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phunkey wrote: loved on it...
eeeew - now that's "phunkey"!
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Nuggular
May 4, 2007, 12:36 PM
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Thx for the info phunkey. I think I will go with the Cheap Bastard. Sounds like you really abused it and its still holding up. I will have to "love on it" ASAP to test out its "firmness" with my girl. 
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Nuggular
May 4, 2007, 6:20 PM
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Thx for the link, but how is that better? Its 1.5 inches less thick than the other.
Large Pad: 36"x 48"x 3
Cheap Bastard Pad: 36"x 48"x 4.5
And anyways, I just bought the Cheap Bastard like 2 hours ago.
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alpinismo_flujo
May 4, 2007, 6:38 PM
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I thought the other one was the old standard pad. -More durable, etc. 1.5" thick? Must be a typo it's the same thickness as the one you got.
Happy bouldering and lov'n..
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petsfed
May 4, 2007, 6:49 PM
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Higher quality foam, amongst other things. The fat bastard is thinner than the cheap bastard, as it turns out, but it will last longer and is much more pleasant to fall on.
If you hadn't already ordered it, and had the money to drop on it, I'd go for an Organic pad. But that's just me.
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aerili
May 8, 2007, 7:49 PM
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I don't boulder, but when I dated a hardcore bouldering dude, he swore Bittersweet pads were the best. What would I know, though.
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mangiacapra
May 11, 2007, 10:51 PM
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I have the Cheap Bastard and it's been great so far, really held up well. I may've unknowingly used a MR pad, but I don't recall so I don't know much about the pad.
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mturner
May 11, 2007, 11:26 PM
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For what it's worth, my friend owned one of each and recently sold his cheap bastard to get another Mad Rock. He didn't like the clips, thought they weren't very user friendly.
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Nuggular
May 14, 2007, 12:40 PM
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After having it for a couple of weeks, I would have to say that the Cheap Bastard is awesome. The hip strap and shoulder straps are comfortable. I also like the slanted fold. It takes the dead spot out of the pad.
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madrock
May 14, 2007, 10:12 PM
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Please get the Mad Rock Crash Pad. Every Mad Rock Pad you buy puts us one step closer to that next climbing trip.
Joe
Mad Rock
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deadhorse
May 17, 2007, 8:59 PM
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i wanted the CB, but i think i'm going to go with the asana dynomite now. it's got retaining flaps, auto carpet top and same size price ish. it's taco style, which i think is going to be easier for me... i heard the CB can open pretty abruptly from a review
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